Watching cas v Leigh and although it's very early days Leigh look very poor although maybe it's cas being that good?few puzzling signings by Leigh vea pelissier stewart are nothing special green has played decent mind.hock and tickle look spent. Leigh and Widnes looked nailed on bottom 2 on paper.sorry Atomic but you look a niggly house team and fully expect to see you in MPG not saying we will win it but that is how I see it

They're an aged team in the pack, playing at this intensity every week will be to much. In the 8s, they could get away with it because they had been in training matches all season and then put everything in to them final 7 games, more so when playing SL teams. I would also say they're poor in the halves, 2 totally unproven players at this level.

We were a poor team last season, but we were competitive all the same. I can't remember us, even as the team going down taking a dry bumming like this.

Leigh will be more competitive in games against lower sides, Cas will be top 4 this year. However, if they think Drinkwater & Ridyard are an SL half back pair then they are in the brown stuff.

One Leigh fan said they had the best set of half backs in SL with these two plus Hampshire and Reynolds

They may find that team spirit again and will be hard to beat at home but the signings look poor

Looking at Widnes 17 they look weak.Hanbury aside they look vulnerable. The plastic pitch is a big advantage for them and shouldn't be allowed imo. Like the look of wakey and wish them well particularly the poster who supports us both eastern wildcat?Still think bottom 4 is super duper league double post bollox

Looking at Widnes 17 they look weak.Hanbury aside they look vulnerable. The plastic pitch is a big advantage for them and shouldn't be allowed imo. Like the look of wakey and wish them well particularly the poster who supports us both eastern wildcat?Still think bottom 4 in super duper league is wide open top 3 is cas wigan warry I'd say and from 4 to 10 could be anything

Cas were outstanding for 65 mins. Leigh complete cackamallabab. I have Cas down to finish above the dark side in the SL top 4 this season.

James Green was the pick of Leigh's new signings. Several Leigh players like Ridyard and Hood looked out of condition and carrying too much timber.

They are bottom 4 on that showing, but will only improve methinks.

Didn't Catalans beat us like 40 nil at home last year

Competitive in defeat we was....

Said on vt next week's game Leigh v Leeds will tell us more where Leigh are.leeds are another puzzle in that their 1-5 look great.bench looked weak but ferres to come back but probably a top half back and one more forward away from being top team again . Gives you a different perspective watching from our current position but enjoyed both games in different ways. But bigger picture is if we wish to get back up someone else has to go down and that's the reason I started the thread. Lots of rugby to be played just hope wakey spank Leicester on sunday

That was a beating but tbf catalans looked very good first third of season apart from getting beat by thunder sharks they probably played the best rugby of anyone but injury screwed them.as iv said before teams were playing without 8/9/10/11 players apart from 1 or 2 teams. Those circumstances are unlikely to happen again

We drew to cas 16-16 early on last season with the following side:

Hull KR: Sio; Cockayne, Minns, Thornley, Mantellato; Blair, Kelly; Tilse, Lawler, Allgood, Horne, Clarkson, Greenwood.

Replacements: Mulhern, Donaldson, Green, Boudebza.

We have a better side playing this time round with a much better coach. Nothing to worry about against Leigh in the middle 8's espcially with 2 or 3 top end signings to come later in the year.

Still think kellys role in our relegation has been underplayed 12-0 up v Leigh and wheels fell off. Going to enjoy watching him stink up the sharks season but he was good in winning gold on track and bicycle

We didn't touch the ball for 20 minutes, we were penalised out of it

Yes but Dixon gave them 24 points on his own we don't have that burden to bear this year thank god

Is peter kay a leigh fan?

leigh will be in the bottom 4, maybe even bottom. they'll win a few games at home but their pack is old and/or average, their half backs probably the worst combo in SL and their 3/4's and FB are bottom 2 SL/top 2 championship. With 2 or 3 injuries I can see them being very uncompetitive

They and widnes look to be the 2 worst squads at this stage and both will be bottom 4. Depends on whether they have any cap left to spend come the middle 8's but if I were a rovers fan I'd be confident that going into the middle 8's with a relatively fresh, injury free squad that my team would finish above those 2 plus the top 2 championship sides get the extra home game in the middle 8's which is a big bonus

So, was this:
(a) Entirely Dixon's fault, or
(b) All down to the ref

With so many choices it's hard to decide who to pin it on. Maybe option (c) is correct, we were utter gash.

Did Boudebza get another club?

A fully fit and well prepared Rovers 2016 would still have an edge on this years' squad IMO. Even the patched-up, cack preseason version almost had enough to dodge the drop.

We've got a fantastic squad by Championship standards but we'll have to strengthen further to have a good shot at home advantage in the MPG again or, even better, top 3 in the 8s (IMO). Let's not forget that until Leigh did it, there was a widespread assumption that a Championship team wouldn't gain promotion through the 8s, and even some of us said things like 'as long as we beat the four Championship teams, then...', as if it was almost a given. Leigh's promotion gives us greater hope, but also means that relegation-threatened SL teams won't be complacent.

Direction of travel is important though, and we do seem to have bounced after relegation. Maybe Widnes have run out of steam in SL and/or Leigh will hit the SL wall hard. Or somebody unexpected will have a stinker.

I think Widnes have done just what we've been doing over the past few years, an that's floating about, making up the numbers. Their time could be up and a reality check ala ourselves needed. The difference with Widnes being they will struggle to come back imo.

I seem to remember a huge Catalan pack, including Willie Mason, run all over our forwards and Richie Mylor kicking us to death.

Did Rangi Chase Start last night's game injured ? He looked very slow and Cas definitely moved the ball around more after he was replaced.

French john signed for a team in the French elite league

That 40-0 dry bumming we got at home last season from Catalans. Yes, 12-0 down in about 5 minutes and we hadn't even touched the ball. The whole team didn't turn up that night. Stewart pressed and tackled Bobby Blair into oblivion, Kelly sauntered around clueless, our forwards were trampled up the middle and Dixon got embarrassed by Jodie Broughton. It was one of the 3 worst performances of Dixon during the last 2 seasons, along with his horror show at Wembley and his ssss take in the CC defeat to Oldham. More of the same on Sunday, please KD.

Widnes need creative halfbacks and quick, as do Leeds. Both will struggle until they recruit in this area or until respectively Joe Mellor and Jordan Lilley return.

Didn't French John go back to Lezignan from where he came originally? Loved that little guy.

Rangi got a neck injury, he failed the head test and didn't play at all 2nd half.

cheers for that, certainly looked off his game, hopes he's back soon and it's not anything long term.