On RH now I thought he sounded evasive when asked if he will still be in charge. Only my opinion.

Other - Joint Academy remains but no U23.

Sheens - Will be coach.

Staying full-time. Level of support will determine quality of retention/recruitment.

Life time bans for hooligans.

Great relations with Hull under Pearson but not before.

Lots of support from local business community.

It sounds like there will be a clear relationship between pass sales and cap spend.

With sponsorship on top of that as well.

All sounded very positive and couldn't really ask for more at this stage.

Funniest moment was his comment about Koukash and his fake cheque. I get the feeling there's not much respect there.

A fan questioned the decision not to play Kelly - Hudgell told him there was more to the ban than just returning late and besides the players didn't want him to play.

Kelly and Campo going will be a big burden off our wage bill.

Onwards and back upwards.

Hi, I'm a first time poster, but have followed the robins since 1972. I usually read the forum without feeling the need to reply or comment.
But after listening to Phil Lowe on RH. I feel we may all be missing a very valid point. He stated that the board only has 2 members now? If that is true. Instead of asking the fans to make financial commitment to the cause and asking the players and staff to take cuts in pay. Should Hudge not be trawling the local business community for new board members, investors and benifactors.
More people at the top with a business outlook will give a much more stable foundation to rebuild a successful club for the future.

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Welcome aboard mate. Listened to both hudgell and Lowe on radio and couldn't argue with their take on events,hudgell mentioned some sponsors increasing commitment and sounding out new revenues just asked the fans for season passes and support.came across calm and focused obviously disappointed but hopeful of getting back up. He and us as fans have seen this before and hull in general sports wise has these ups and downs I'm thinking speedway ice hockey hull city.boom and bust but we seem to have the owner the coach and hopefully the spine of a squad which should do well next year..rrtr

One thing I have decided this week is that although I probably don't need to as no doubt you'll be able to pay on the gate is that I'm still definitely getting a pass for next season.

Pure MGS.

I to will be renewing my pass, even though I do work every third Sunday.
I totally respect and support Neil in the manner he has delt with everything since Saturday.What I was trying to say is he needs some help.
He sometimes comes over as "it's my trainset" you can all watch but no body else is driving. Some new money and a different view would only help.

I tweeted an idea to Hudge the other night about putting Pride Of East Hull back on the shirt.

It may make us look a little inward looking, but right now it might help galvanise local support for our club further and I think it would help sell next season's replica shirts.

Brilliant. Here's me thinking success was down to skill levels and coaching. It is in fact down to the embroidery.

But if it helps sell extra shirts next season....

One of the problems with Rovers is that we're too insular. Personally I hate the 'Pride of East Hull' strapline as it ignores all of the fans who never have or don't live there. I'm a New Bridge Road lad originally but have lived all over the country because of work (I used to do a 350 mile round trip to watch Whitehaven destroy us) and now I live in Grimsby. I think the 'Pride of the East Riding' would be better, we only took the 'Pride of East Hull' because FC were sponsored by P&O and got their ships name 'Pride of Hull' as their strapline.

I agree, it's a bit insular but it was popular and might see a few extra shirts.

Any other money spinning ideas?

I thought the club might allow the fans to purchase 2, 3 and 5 year season passes. I know some can't afford it but for those that can it could get us over this awkward spell.

Every rugby or football club that had tried this it has always ended in disaster

Is there any evidence of that FTF ?

I know that when Saints moved from Knowsley Road my BIL bought a 3 year ST for the new stadium, he seemed to think it had been popular as it offered savings to the fans.

Not trying to discredit your claim, just interested to know why ?

Leeds Utd Bradford Bulls 3 Italian clubs have all done something similar the thing you spend say three years season pass money in a bid to go straight back up but if you don't you end up like Bradford

I have a bit of a fixed take on the kind of strategy required by the board in these extraordinary circumstances, which is a carry over from my direct working experience.

The club cannot get successful or reach its season goals of bouncing straight back to SL on "jam tomorrow" promises. It needs to maximise every revenue stream, generate increased new revenues and front load as much season pass revenue as it can. It also needs to take a bit of a risk.

It should offer a concrete incentive OPTION to those fans who want to commit to buy and pay for a multi year season pass in full now. That revenue should be capitalised in the P + L account as deferred income. However it is treated on the balance sheet as cash in the bank and can be used to make good on any central funding shortfall this season or to pay off any short-term loan or borrowing this year to meet extra funding needs.

Assuming promotion goals are achieved 12 months from now, the extra central funding generated next year in SL will deliver the cash necessary to cover the cash used this year from deferred income multi year pass sales. The risk is we fall short on our promotion goals and the related revenue is added to the debt pile.

1500 fans spending an extra £225 average this year on a 2018 season pass equates to an extra third of a million quid. If, like me, you love and support this club through the good times and the bad, then this is a gesture and an option that may help get us back this next 2017 season to where we want to be.

It's things like that which will ensure you never move away from the small club mentality epitomised by Hudgell himself, and which runs through your club's core. Think about the connotations attached to it; it's small time, local, parochial - why would any decent sponsors outside of EH want to get on board with that?

"Rally Round The Robins" is another one that makes your club sound small time. It's just unnecessary and helps fuel the aura around the club that it needs saving.

"Stick Together, Rovers Forever" I've seen banded about too.

I take your point about the pride of east hull. However, I do wonder about your opinion of Hull and Proud and the Team Hull localism espoused by your chairman and some fans? To be fair it is sometimes balanced by a bewildering degree of domineering arrogance. Less comical than normal this year, admittedly.

The others are uncontroversial enough to make me think that you're just desperately looking for ways to justify your predujices.

I don't see anything wrong with "Hull and Proud", or the "Team Hull" ethos. After all, "Hull" is in our name as a brand anyway, so I'm not sure either of those tag lines detract from what's already there. There is no way we'd ever market ourselves as "Pride of West Hull", it's just too narrow and almost creates a further niche that needn't be there.

If your team were called "East Hull Kingston Rovers", fair enough.




I didn't say they were controversial. I think they're unnecessary. They create the [iimpression[/i of a dying club, going after support from fans & sponsors by implying that the club needs saving and they're the ones to do so. It goes against the positive remarks made from Hudgell this week.

I don'the think spending our income for 2018 12 months early and then hoping and praying we are back in S.L. makes good financial sense. This sounds like a slippery slop to a C.V.A.
We should instead be working out how to utilise our assets. Why not start by offering the stadium to Toronto whilst they are in the UK.
Then there's the City of Culture. With the more structured game calendar of the Championship , we could find our self's only playing at home twice in a month during the summer.
We have a large car park and an empty theatre for 28 days of the month. Over to the commercial department.
I know we've got the Panto this Christmas, but why not a top music act, or another sporting event.? Top comedians seem to fill the indoor arenas, but what about an outdoor event ?
I'm all for speculating to accumulate, but please let's not gamble with future income.

The fans, sponsors etc. are the club - of course we're the ones to do it.



We sign players from overseas and we're too internationalist, in some people's book. We try to appeal to our core support and we're parochial. We spend big and we should be cutting our cloth. We cut costs and our board has betrayed the fans. Just so much (black and) white noise now.