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| He has had a full season now, chance to mould his own squad. Injuries are not an excuse, at the time of writing we have only Campese and Allgood out.
I admit I have enjoyed the flowing rugby in some games this season but on the whole the full season has been one of massive under achievement. Whooped far too many times, the amount of players with beer bellies is shocking, the second half performances are evidence that we are far to unfit for the rigours of super league.
I honestly think if Campese didn't have the impact pre injury, and Albert Kelly didn't have the season he had, then we would have failed even more, maybe fighting it out with Wakefield for bottom spot.
We are too soft as fans and just seem to accept inept performances and usually blame the referee.
As I said, Chester has had a full off season, his own squad to form, his own ideas but this season has been nothing but a disaster, why does it feel like Chester is bulletproof?
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| Quote ="robinrovers10"He has had a full season now, chance to mould his own squad. Injuries are not an excuse, at the time of writing we have only Campese and Allgood out.
I admit I have enjoyed the flowing rugby in some games this season but on the whole the full season has been one of massive under achievement. Whooped far too many times, the amount of players with beer bellies is shocking, the second half performances are evidence that we are far to unfit for the rigours of super league.
I honestly think if Campese didn't have the impact pre injury, and Albert Kelly didn't have the season he had, then we would have failed even more, maybe fighting it out with Wakefield for bottom spot.
We are too soft as fans and just seem to accept inept performances and usually blame the referee.
As I said, Chester has had a full off season, his own squad to form, his own ideas but this season has been nothing but a disaster, why does it feel like Chester is bulletproof?
Please give me reasons to rove me wrong on this issue'"
You sound like a hull fan we haven't only got campese and allgood out you forgot about weyman and bailey teams have done us up the middle we've played with one or two props for a lot of games look at our bench tonight and saints bench is give Chester at least another season and bring in a new fitness coach you also say if it wasn't for Kelly or campese we'd be in a worse position but that's why we signed them it's there job that's what there supposed to do win us games
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| I'll absolutely laugh my socks off at this thread if, next weekend, he becomes the first coach to take HKR to Wembley since the great Roger in 1986.
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| Chester will be judged on next season. Even if the worse case scenario happened and we got relegated this year, I think he'd be given a chance to redeem himself.
He is lucky being a coach of our team because we give players and coaches more chances than they would get at other clubs. That said, I do get frustrated with some of the happy clappers on here that even felt we treated Sandercock poorly.
There have been players under performing to their abilities this year and as said too many injuries and add to the fact our youth system is not producing anyone worth of note, add that all together and 9/10th is about right. Next year is the year to kick on.
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| One thing is for sure our defence in contact around the ruck, line speed, and defensive shape is awful, we miss far too many tackles and this hasn't been resolved all season. I'd say this is because our pack lacks size but that's down to Chesters recruitment. The counter argument is weyman Bailey and Allgood not being involved as planned. Still not a good enough excuse for our missed tackles and points conceded.
Our away form is dreadful, also not improved all season. We're just too inconsistent, even within 80 minutes never mind week to week. When we get our defence right eg wigan away wire at home, we look a competitive side. But when we're off, were too easy to play against and that's been too often this season. I have been saying this since we came up, we are a dumb team. First couple of years you accept it but by now we should have smartened up, dumb penalties and errors kill us. With campese our game management was the best it's been for ages, without him we struggle. We can't go set for set and grind it out cos our lack gets bullied and our kicking game isn't good enough, which is why we try to play attacking rugby to paper over that and when it works it's amazing, second half v Catalan at home was just brilliant but it's not sustainable every week. Think our fitness could definitely be better as well. So many things to work on before we are anything other than a mid table team. As for Chester out I'm not going to bay for blood just yet, but we need some signings in the pack and an improvement in defence for next season. If we get to 10-15 games in next year and we have the same flaws I think we can start to call for change.
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| Quote ="miscreant"I'll absolutely laugh my socks off at this thread if, next weekend, he becomes the first coach to take HKR to Wembley since the great Roger in 1986.'"
Morgan or Webster have taken them since ( Micky mouse cup like but Wembley all the same)
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| Pathetic against one of the worst saints teams in SL history.
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| Quote ="Legends and Icons"Morgan or Webster have taken them since ( Micky mouse cup like but Wembley all the same)'"
Oh yeah? When did this happen?
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| Pooching and Mallinson out I'd say, stealing a living them two .
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| Quote ="bishops finger"Pooching and Mallinson out I'd say, stealing a living them two .'"
Mallinson has been stealing a wage ever since he first came to rovers. Our fitness has been amongst the worst in the league for years.
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| Quote ="SirStan"Oh yeah? When did this happen?'"
God knows Stan ... Think I should lay off the Jack Daniels
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| Another 2nd half where we didn't turn up. We were soft in contact and around the ruck once more and got caught out wide again and again on the final set power play.
Depressingly familiar and not the form to be in with important games coming up.
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| You've surely put all your eggs in the wembley basket and tonight was the outcome of that. It will be a lot different next week and I still think you'll win but it will cause you major problems in the middle 8's
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| Quote ="Legends and Icons"Morgan or Webster have taken them since ( Micky mouse cup like but Wembley all the same)'"
You really are clueless aren't you?
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| Quote ="moxi1"Pathetic against one of the worst saints teams in SL history.'" ..
your proball'y right.but not bad is it..top of the league (until sunday)..for one of the worst saints teams in history..the other lot must be even more dire then!..
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| Quote ="Legends and Icons"God knows Stan ... Think I should lay off the Jack Daniels
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Think you may have been on the Jack Daniels when you thought that FC will win 2 games in the super 7s (and FC).
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| Quote ="DuaneDibbley"Think you may have been on the Jack Daniels when you thought that FC will win 2 games in the super 7s (and FC).'"
They'll win more than rovers will in the super 8's though
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| Stats from last night make interesting reading. burke and walker both made less carries than mose masoe and the only forward with carries into double figures was mccarthy. Well done to puletua though who was the only player in your team not to miss a tackle
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your proball'y right.but not bad is it..top of the league (until sunday)..for one of the worst saints teams in history..the other lot must be even more dire then!..'"
Absolutely dead right. The quality of the league as a whole has diminished over the years. Is there one player in that starting line up last night that would of got in to, say, the saints team of 2006. Probably not i'd say.
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| Even if we had a full team out we would not have won we do not have props big enough when they brought on the big guy we were beat and had no chance we need big props that will have a go
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"They'll win more than rovers will in the super 8's though'"
Not necessarily
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| Quote ="moxi1"Absolutely dead right. The quality of the league as a whole has diminished over the years. Is there one player in that starting line up last night that would of got in to, say, the saints team of 2006. Probably not i'd say.'"
Walmsley probably would have got a bench spot. The problem with HKR is stability, they always seem to change half the team on an annual basis, most of the successful teams only bring about 2 or 3 players in, you also always seem to have a purple patch in the season, have a few injuries exposing your strength in depth, once you go beyond your 17 then consistency free falls.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Walmsley probably would have got a bench spot. The problem with HKR is stability, they always seem to change half the team on an annual basis, most of the successful teams only bring about 2 or 3 players in, you also always seem to have a purple patch in the season, have a few injuries exposing your strength in depth, once you go beyond your 17 then consistency free falls.
Best of luck for next week.'"
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Walmsley probably would have got a bench spot. The problem with HKR is stability, they always seem to change half the team on an annual basis, most of the successful teams only bring about 2 or 3 players in, you also always seem to have a purple patch in the season, have a few injuries exposing your strength in depth, once you go beyond your 17 then consistency free falls.
Best of luck for next week.'"
I will give you a name TRAVIS BURNS we brought him in & he left (not rovers choice) ripped us to pieces last night. Blake Green to Wigan, Scott Taylor brought him to the first team & left for Wigan, Beaumont left for saints & the list goes on, Chester can't be blamed if we have to rebuild time & time again, We can't just pluck big props from thin air they just arn't there. We have the makings of a team that will compete with just a few minor adjustments & a bit of luck with injuies. I for one am happier this year with some of the rugby we have seen than te last 4/5 years. We are not the only team this year that has taken a beating & tere will be a few more handed out befor the end of the season.
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