I'd just like to thank the trade unions for their superb actions back in 2010 that have today given us 5 more years under the Tories.

Well done, hope you are happy now.

Looking at the total annihilation it could take a lot more than 5 years for anyone of the others to recover enough to challenge next time.

IMO people were scared that a vote for Labour would be a vote to get the SNP into power so they went for the safe option of the Torys. Hell would you like the SNP to have an influence on how the government ran our country?

Milliband as pm are you serious blokes a clown and shouldn't be anywhere near num 10 thank goodness enough saw that

That is also a good enough reason to vote for the Torys for some. I wouldn't have been too disappointed if Labour got in but imo the best result of this whole election is that UKIP wont have any influence and that enough people have seen through their inherently racist mantra.

AGREE with what you say and i wish that edd had not stabbed is brother in the back I think he would have got in and how is the torys a safe option it will cost us all in the end unless you are rich

Couldn't agree more, even though we are insulting the clowns.

100% agree. For me the leader of a party is everything. I don't vote labour but if they got in with say, Alan Johnson at the helm then could live with that.

The election of Ed effectively ended Labours chances, they just chose to ignore the obvious for 5 years. Had David been elected I suspect he would be picking out new curtains tomorrow.

I would like to see Chuka Umunna get the job now. He has consistently impressed since joining Parliament in 2010.

Alan Johnson is certainly more of a sincere man than Milliband could ever be that's for sure.
I would not trust Milliband as far as I could shoot him out of a fifty foot cannon, plus the thought of him colluding with Nicola Sturgeon of the SNP would be enough to scare the hell out of most sensible English people I would imaging.

In response to some of these opinions.
The parliamentary labour party are as culpable as they never removed Miliband in five years.

What's the problem with the SNP having a say in the BRITISH parliament. It's a national election. The Scots have never elected a Tory government but had to suffer their nonsense over 300 years. Didn't hear any complaints from the ' English' MPs then.

Now the Scots don't vote for the traditional parties they want rid of them. Democracy pah! Do any of you know any SNP policies......thought so.

The Labour party is f#cked. Took its money under Blair then set its foreign policy with Bush. Finished as a credible party of the working classes.

Be afraid if you need the nhs in the next five years it's fu#ked now they'll finish it given half a chance. Hope these morons fall out in the next two years......which they will and we may get another election.
These torys have to be the dumbest bunch ever to fall into power. Wait while we are out the eu then we will be roundly f#cked.....like a mini USA.
Good luck to the needy and vulnerable.

I love the old get out the EU brigade. Get rid of the poles taking our jobs but miss the fact that without open trade routes and European companies investing that there'll be no jobs anyway.

Great post.

I believe that if we stay in the EU, then it should be as a reformed EU acting as a trading partner which was as originally intended back in 1973, imo, been in the EU certainly does have its advantages but unfortunately as it currently stands. The European Union is run by unelected, unaccountable elites whose power is vast, they often bring in legislation that has not been voted on in our national parliament, yet supersedes our own laws that do pass through such democratic processes.
I do some of my trade within he EU myself and find the bureaucracy plus red tape on business at times ridiculous and unnecessary, in fact there have been 3,600 new laws imposed on British businesses since 2010, its actually strangling some UK firms and making it harder to compete with corporations in the US, plus emerging markets in the Far East and South America.

I have also to disagree with your point regarding open trade routes and there'll be no jobs.
There are many ways in which the UK could maintain its free trade with Europe - Switzerland and Norway have free trade with the EU but are not members. plus, the UK also imports more from EU member states than it exports to them, so in my view they would be substantially harming their own economies if they imposed tariffs.

Trouble with the nhs is it needs a total overall, treating p ssheads and crackheads is not what its there for go any night to a and e and thats what you will see, 24 hr drinking was one of the worst laws to be brought in, untill one of the parties graps the bull by the horns the nhs will stuggle,

We definitely need to bring in some kind of reform or overhaul imo .
We currently spend around 113 billion on the NHS every year and rising, but its about how that money is spent that concerns me rather than the actual figure, in particular the amount of waste that appears to go on in certain areas of the NHS.
My ex worked in the NHS as a staff nurse and in fact still does work there but in a different capacity these days, she was always critical of the administration side and said that money could have been spent far more effectively than it was and still is today.
Also, Besides the various depts been more economic with their resources it must surely be up to us all to take some responsibility for our own health, for example you only have to look at the obesity crisis which is evident everywhere these days and the resulting high rates of type 2 diabetes which is closely associated with the condition, in fact some doctors are saying that if it continues to rise at its current rate, it could bankrupt the NHS.
Food for thought wouldn't you say?.

The beauty of this forum is I hope we all share a love and passion for our beloved Robins. We post from a position of strength mostly as we pay to watch our team. We are its customers, its patrons, and as fans we can talk mainly about what we see from the terraces or on the TV. This gives us a certain level of credibility.

The downside is most of us operate with incognito usernames, thereby preserving a right to anonymity. Mostly we know nothing about collective backgrounds, ages, lifestyles, abilities, histories, location, personal wealth, achievements, relationships etc.etc. The list is endless.

Talking about politics and the outcome of this latest General Election seems pointless and risky to me but in for a penny.

I was born on an East Hull council estate, am very proud to be from Hull, but I have lived away from Hull in different areas of the UK and abroad for over 40 years. My family and I have some varied and positive life experiences to call upon. These experiences have forged our personal political perspectives and have made us suspicious of politicians.

As a country our political future will always be fully dependent on the so called middle class under the current status quo. That handle does not equate to our finances but to our core values. Nobody can define what is working class anymore. We can define working poor and the obvious underclass as well as the migrant workers. We loathe the rich, but cannot define at what level this particular characteristic kicks in.

So I think this has been the reason why Milliband and his bunch of spineless, vacuous wet lettuce Labour cohorts failed to win. They failed to win over our burgeoning middle class and lacked total substance in any arguments or policies put forward.

If you're going to be a cynical political opportunist and soundbite politician, you need to be good at it like Cameron. Milliband didn't convince on any level. If the electorate could spot this, why couldn't those in his party do the same? They followed the gormless worm and the result is now history. Somebody mentioned Umunna as a better option. He is widely reviled in the business community. Without the employers to create our wealth and feed our growth, our country has no future.

I predict that Labour could now spend a whole generation in the political wilderness, unless we change our electoral constitution. They need another Blair lookalike and thinkalike going forward. Sad but true.

I welcome your comments. Edited for length, tone and objective.

Too long and way too condescending. You think you know me based on what I post on here? Don't be such a prick.

Appreciate the response. On reflection, you're right about the length of post and the tone. You misunderstand my message and you are wrong to make it personal.

There's no place for politics on here and your response reinforces that opinion.

Ok, maybe I took offence too rapidly, however, I don't agree that any topic should be off limits (within the bounds of taste & decency). If folk don't want to read or comment it's really easy to avoid.

This posting lark can get addictive, though. My wife hates the amount of time I spend on this forum. Too much time on my hands due to early retirement. I have edited the original post as I was trying to be too smart for my own good, basically a prick. Still not truly reflective of my opinions despite this.

I've always put people politely and forcefully back in their box who have tried to engage me in politics and religion discourse over the years. I guess I have broken that rule above.

Don't know what PR put in the unedited version but the edited one seemed a fair appraisal politically. Labour needs a front man. Someone who looks the part, sounds the part etc regardless of whether they're any good. That's what gets elected. Labours best chance could be Boris, surely no one will elect him, he's like a fast show character.

As for politics being off limits, I'm with Stan on that, you don't have to read it or comment and as long as it legally doesn't overstep the mark then so be it.

Again to comment on the thread. A few issues.

You have to talk about politics. Not too is ridiculous. To not so to avoid disagreements sounds beyond comprehension...let's not talk about Mr Hitler love and maybe he won't be as bad as we think he is.......

The post above reads like a UKIP manifesto. There are many issues with th EU. To compare the UK economy to the Swiss and Norwegian ones isn't an appropriate comparison. More people live in London than both countries put together. They are both rich...one through a history of appalling banking practices. Our service economy needs the EU and we get huge subsidies from it.
I dont know if people have noticed we do elect EU MPs at elections.......ask Mr Farage. They aren't unelected powerful elites...that's our country were a government with a third of the votes....a third runs the country.
Business needs red tape otherwise it ends in banditry. The mafia are unregulated business in action.
Our economies are constantly bust by the 'money markets'...banking etc. Since the torys de-regulated banking it has been a free for all for short term shysterism. Make huge amounts retire at 35 and f#ck the long term consequences. This has been repeated ad nauseam back to the Louisiana bubble 300 years ago.
Don't buy the finger pointing at everybody else.
The eu and immigrants didn't sell everyone mortgages they couldn't afford then protect the crooks that did. The eu and labour weren't running the US economy in 2008.
The nhs is being privatised overseen by the new reform and commissioners who have no idea what they are doing.
We need to treat drug addicts and alcohol users (90% of the UK public drink). If we don't where does it stop. Don't treat rugby players.....they know the risk....sorry you were driving to fast.....sorry shouldn't have climbed that mountain etc. There's plenty of ways of improving the nhs the new reforms are about dismantling it. Why has a private firm with no building or staff got a contract in Hull for services over nhs ones who have some of the best treatment outcomes in the country......

There are some honest and valid assessments being delivered here. Finally, time to come off the fence. Here's my take on some key issues, based on personal observation and my own experiences.

The country is now divided like never before in a way that will be impossible to reconcile in the next 5 years.

Scotland will be independent from the rest of the UK in 10 years and bankrupt within 25 years when the oil revenue runs out.

As a former company director, I came to loathe the excessive business bureaucracy, the needless red tape, the ludicrous over implementation of health and safety regulation and the over taxation of employee and employer inflicted on business since Thatcher and accelerated under Blair and Brown.

I witnessed colossal damage done by restrictive trade union practices to Hull, its industry and economy during the 60's and 70s, especially but not exclusively by Hull Dockers. My dad worked in Drypool on the railway. Days and weeks were wasted waiting to move dock cargo held up by wildcat strikes.

Having lived in Socialist South Wales for 25 years, starved of Rugby League on a regular basis, my wife and I have recently moved back to live in Yorkshire as part of my early retirement plans. Wales receives more per head for public services than England, spends more on health and education than England, yet has made a complete F**k up. If you had to interview the respective incumbent Welsh Education and Health Secretaries for a job in the private sector, you might just offer them a job cleaning the bogs, so bad are they. However, they are fluent in 3 languages - Welsh, English and Bull.

The mistakes of the past have delivered a bum hand to many in this country and to cities like Hull, basically political mismanagement.

Tory, Labour, UKIP, Lib Dem, Greens, SNP. What a shower of total cack the lot of them. We've chosen Tory in England and Wales and SNP in Scotland. An European referendum looms. I'm not ecstatic.