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| Chris Smith has been selected in the England Academy squad whilst Chris Brown, Elliot Windley and Owen Harrison have been selected in the England under 16s squad.
Congratulations to all 4.
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| I thought the England Academy side was made up of just FC players?
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| Quote ="Barnabus"I thought the England Academy side was made up of just FC players?'"
I'm sure you're right, it will be an admin error by the RFL.
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| Well done to all 4 players! recognition of the talent and hard work of all involved.
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| well done to those young lads. always great to have players from hull representing England at any level(whether r** and w***e or black and white)
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| Congratulations to all the Rovers lads selected for representation at International level
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| Quote ="Barnabus"I thought the England Academy side was made up of just FC players?'"
It usually is, first time in about 4 years Rovers have had a player in either squad, lets hope they can bring them through.
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| Aye, seems to have coincided with Andy Last leaving the England set up, I'm sure that's nothing to do with it of course.
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| Quote ="SirStan"I'm sure you're right, it will be an admin error by the RFL.'"
You tell me where it says Benson & Hedges on that.
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| Rovers young players are eligible for England teams - who knew?
Well done to them.
Of course, Kristian Bell played for the Academy, but he was from Oldham and had already played for the youth team while on Saints books, iirc. Can't recall the last time we had a player from KuH in one of these squads. Have we ever in SL, in fact?
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| Quote ="Structured"Aye, seems to have coincided with Andy Last leaving the England set up, I'm sure that's nothing to do with it of course.'"
Tbf, it doesn't quite directly coincide - he was off the England juniors scene ahead of the games against the Aussie schoolboys.
And he was always and understandably more likely to be an advocate of players he'd helped develop, ahead of those he'd 'passed over'. I'd look slightly askance if a Rovers juniors coach combining that with a role at England level picked a load of Hull players ahead of his own charges. It'd look like you didn't rate your own judgement or performance.
Interesting to see how early Wigan and Leeds dominate squads. Their development systems are excellent, I'm sure - but obviously a lot of it is about hoovering up talent. I doubt the systems add that much value, that quickly, personally.
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| The fact you know where Bell came from and can remember his rep stats suggests you're the most likely person to answer your own question.
No one else will admit to that level intense geekism.
Well done to the young lads and coaches who've guided them, nowt like that in my day.
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| Liam Salter once got a late call up to the England Academy squad but didnt play. (geek alert).
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Tbf, it doesn't quite directly coincide - he was off the England juniors scene ahead of the games against the Aussie schoolboys.
And he was always and understandably more likely to be an advocate of players he'd helped develop, ahead of those he'd 'passed over'. I'd look slightly askance if a Rovers juniors coach combining that with a role at England level picked a load of Hull players ahead of his own charges. It'd look like you didn't rate your own judgement or performance.
Interesting to see how early Wigan and Leeds dominate squads. Their development systems are excellent, I'm sure - but obviously a lot of it is about hoovering up talent. I doubt the systems add that much value, that quickly, personally.'"
Your youth players were not good enough. Not everything is a conspiracy FFS you all need to grow up and behave like reasonable adults.
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| Quote ="hull smallears"Your youth players were not good enough. Not everything is a conspiracy FFS you all need to grow up and behave like reasonable adults.'"
As apparently only two of yours are now. For the various excuses why they are not good enough / conspiracies can I suggest the thread on your own board is a starting place.
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| Quote ="hull smallears" you all need to grow up and behave like reasonable adults.'"
This place would close down overnight if we listened to you, stinky pants.
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| Quote ="hull smallears"Your youth players were not good enough. Not everything is a conspiracy FFS you all need to grow up and behave like reasonable adults.'"
Calm down dear........FFS!
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| Quote ="SirStan"This place would close down overnight if we listened to you, stinky pants.'"
I wanted a response from Mild Rover (jumps up and down and stamps feet petulantly)
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| Quote ="hull smallears"I wanted a response from Mild Rover
(jumps up and down and stamps feet petulantly)'"
Sorry mate, work has been bonkers busy lately.
Love a conspiracy theory, me. My favourite is that the works credited to Shakespeare were really written by Francis Bacon or Edward De Vere or Roger Manners or Christopher Marlowe (despite his being dead) or James Smailes. Obviously in the last version, Adam Pearson would be the subject of the sonnets.
Sadly the Lastian school of thought on Rovers years in the England academy wilderness can do no more than point to a correlation (which is of course not necessarily a causitive effect) and a simple alignment of incentives, rather than come up with something really intriguing. And we have to acknowledge that we have not produced that many players over the last few years. But...
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Sorry mate, work has been bonkers busy lately.
Love a conspiracy theory, me. My favourite is that the works credited to Shakespeare were really written by Francis Bacon or Edward De Vere or Roger Manners or Christopher Marlowe (despite his being dead) or James Smailes. Obviously in the last version, Adam Pearson would be the subject of the sonnets.
Sadly the Lastian school of thought on Rovers years in the England academy wilderness can do no more than point to a correlation (which is of course not necessarily a causitive effect) and a simple alignment of incentives, rather than come up with something really intriguing. And we have to acknowledge that we have not produced that many players over the last few years. But...'"
You are turning into Stephen Fry
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"And he was always and understandably more likely to be an advocate of players he'd helped develop, ahead of those he'd 'passed over'. I'd look slightly askance if a Rovers juniors coach combining that with a role at England level picked a load of Hull players ahead of his own charges. It'd look like you didn't rate your own judgement or performance.
Interesting to see how early Wigan and Leeds dominate squads. Their development systems are excellent, I'm sure - but obviously a lot of it is about hoovering up talent. I doubt the systems add that much value, that quickly, personally.'"
So the players Hull sign are the ones Rovers dont want ? and vice versa
Surely youd think if players are good enough both clubs may want them and the player passes the team over
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| I thought risking implying in any way it was because the players had kb'd FC would be even more controversial, provocative and definitely unjust.
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