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| Will they be missing due to the England game on the saturday ?
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| Don't know, neither have particularly set the world alight this year. Foxy's not done a lot wrong and Brisc has been out of form so will be touch and go if they get picked.
Would think it will impact wire a lot more, Myler is already out but think a few may get a call. Would there be a chance of it being called off?
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| McNamara said he would initially call in 22 of the 24 form last year (Burgess & Ellis being the 2 others) but he would look at form etc and call in some new recruits.
Obviousl Morley, Carvell, Bridge & Westwood were in the mix too
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| Fox should be. Not sure about Briscoe, he hasn't been anywhere near his best (although much improved on Sunday), but McNamara does like him. We'll see.
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| Quote ="reddan"Fox should be. Not sure about Briscoe, he hasn't been anywhere near his best (although much improved on Sunday), but McNamara does like him. We'll see.'"
Aaron Murphy? (wakey)
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| I would expect Fox and Briscoe to be named in the squad and although a hindrance, it is a pat on the back to the club for developing international players. Wire will be affected at least as badly as us as will most of the other top sides in Super League. I dont expect it to be an issue for Richard Agar.
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| So if both are out, who would you want taking there place?
Colbon starts full contact next week apparently; but would it be too early to bring him back?
Cockayne to full back? but then who on the wing?
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| Ratu can go on the wing with Cockayne at full back. Welham can also go out to the wing. I'd love to see Mariano given a shot though he could be devastating out wide.
As for whether or not Brisk and Foxy should be in the England side, nope! Neither have been in form and at Rovers if anyone deserved a call up it would be Cockayne.
Tom Briscoe is in good try scoring form so I fully expect him to take Foxy's wing spot and Murphy is doing well and could benefit from playing in this mid-season test.
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| Quote ="nick hkr"Ratu can go on the wing with Cockayne at full back. Welham can also go out to the wing. I'd love to see Mariano given a shot though he could be devastating out wide.
As for whether or not Brisk and Foxy should be in the England side, nope! Neither have been in form and at Rovers if anyone deserved a call up it would be Cockayne.
Tom Briscoe is in good try scoring form so I fully expect him to take Foxy's wing spot and Murphy is doing well and could benefit from playing in this mid-season test.'"
Do you seriously believe that Ben Cockayne deserves an international call up?
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| Briscoe should be nowhere near the england team, he has been truly appalling
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| Quote ="R.B.A"Do you seriously believe that Ben Cockayne deserves an international call up?'"
All I'm saying is he has been our best English player so if Fox or Brisk get a call up he should be in before them. Simple.
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| can sort of see your logic but enthusiasm doesnt mean you are international class
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| The only way to prove international class is to be given an international game however I do think there are better players out there in the SL that should be in before him but on performances so far this season Fox and Brisk will be or should be nowhere near.
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| Morley
Atkins
Bridge
Riley
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Could all be in contention to miss out for us
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| Quote ="Wire_74"Morley
Atkins
Bridge
Riley
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Harrison
Could all be in contention to miss out for us'"
I think that there may be an unwritten agreement between the RFL and the clubs that only a couple of players from any one club will be selected.
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| Quote ="R.B.A"I would expect Fox and Briscoe to be named in the squad and although a hindrance, it is a pat on the back to the club for developing international players. Wire will be affected at least as badly as us as will most of the other top sides in Super League. I dont expect it to be an issue for Richard Agar.'"
I think Briscoe, Tickle and Tansey are all a chance at Hull TBH.
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| If Tansey gets to pull on that England shirt I will be shocked. The lad cant catch any kind of a kick, he makes plenty of poor reads, being played out of position at full back is the reason for this but if you was to play him in his natural half back role he would be a very average player not fit to lace Pryce's boots. There are at least 5 better English full backs than Tansey and at least three of them are fit and in form.
With Ellis and Burgess missing along with Wilkin I could actually see Tickle getting a hit out there. Our front row should be our biggest strength however our back row for this mid season test might be a tad weaker than it will be at the end of the year.
Westerman and O'Loughlin should contest the 13 shirt with Sean taking that spot IMO. Westwood is an option for one second row spot leaving the oposite side open to numerous players applications.
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| Quote ="nick hkr"If Tansey gets to pull on that England shirt I will be shocked. The lad cant catch any kind of a kick, he makes plenty of poor reads, being played out of position at full back is the reason for this but if you was to play him in his natural half back role he would be a very average player not fit to lace Pryce's boots. There are at least 5 better English full backs than Tansey and at least three of them are fit and in form.
With Ellis and Burgess missing along with Wilkin I could actually see Tickle getting a hit out there. Our front row should be our biggest strength however our back row for this mid season test might be a tad weaker than it will be at the end of the year.
Westerman and O'Loughlin should contest the 13 shirt with Sean taking that spot IMO. Westwood is an option for one second row spot leaving the oposite side open to numerous players applications.'"
I agree with most your points particularly about the back row but I would be interested to know which 5 English full backs you rate higher then Tansey this season.
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| Quote ="knocker norton"I agree with most your points particularly about the back row but I would be interested to know which 5 English full backs you rate higher then Tansey this season.'"
Halley.
Cudjoe.
Jones-Bishop.
Briscoe.
Wellens.
Pryce.
Whiting.
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| Quote ="R.B.A"Halley.
Cudjoe.
Jones-Bishop.
Briscoe.
Wellens.
Pryce.
Whiting.'"
Halley who was dropped for Kearney when Orford was fit?
Cudjoe the right winger who stands in for Hodgson?
Jones Bishop who's injury coincided with a Quins return to form? (TBF he is one for the future )
Briscoe poor form this year bud.
Wellens not much better then Briscoe.
Pryce, who is this full back called Pryce that you speak of?
Whiting - could play prop and get MOM. Super Leagues most versatile player of quality.
I know Tansey wears the black and white but he is a chance cos Barrie McDermott just said so on Boots an all.
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| Tansey will never play full back in international rugby.
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"Tansey will never play full back in international rugby.'"
He may well get a squad place against France though.
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| squad place i could agree with as a versatile player with good ball in hand
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| You dont play a striker in goal so unless your good under a high ball and one on one tackles you cant have a player like Tansey at full back. If Ferriol was to run at him I'd expect nothing less than for Jordan to move out the way and allow him to score. Attack I cannot criticise but he's hardly Webb now is he!
Wellens is having a pretty good year
Mathers is better than Tansey
Briscoe IS better than Tansey and although a dip in form wouldnt play JT in front of him.
Murphy deserves a shot.
Then players that are not playing there at club level but are better than Tansey there - Lee Smith, Michael Platt, Kyle Eastmond, Leon Pryce.
We also have that lad at Melbourne who should be in the squad at the end of the year even if its just for experience.
These are all better than Jordan Tansey as full backs. I would also argue that I'd sooner see Ben Cockayne line up at full back than Tansey if it were a choice between the two.
I like Tansey as a half back but he's nothing more than a back up player at a top level. He can be an exciting try scorer but he can also be a liability in defence.
For our National team we need security at the back. If we are playing Macguire and Burrow at halfs we have enough flair about us to not need an exciting attacking full back however neither are strong in defence against the top International teams so we would need a last line of defence we could trust we'd also need someone safe under the high ball because their kicking games are superior to ours.
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