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| After yet another inept performance (scorless after 77mins) i stood in the odsal strand wondering how long is this rubbish going to continue for.
I know i'm going to get shot to bits for my next statemant, but has Justin gone stale and is it time for a change.
What the guy has done for HKR is not in question but the direction we are now heading IS.
Wigan, Wakey, Hull, Hudds (cup) 40 mins scoreless, Catalan, Bradford, scorless for 70+ mins, Hudds niled at home, Leeds 1 point in second half.
I'm not alone in thinking its time Justin moved on, because he has built this team and quite frankley we are SHOCKING in both attack and defence.
I pay good money for myself and my family to foillow the robins and after today this is the last nail in the coffin for our MESSIAH and i call for MORGAN OUT!!!!!
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| Knee jerk reactions are to be expected. We allways demand more. Has he taken us as far as he can who knows, we are just as likely to beat Saints next week.
However I would like like him to address certain things.
Time to 'rest' Dobson. some may say dont be stupid he's the only half we've got. But thats the reason we are getting found out. Keep Dobson quiet and we win they say. Mix it up, be unpredictable in the halves, if I'anson is all we've got put him to 7 and let Cockayne have a go at 6.
Dont over coach. I get the impression we are stifled with gameplans at times, it seems to rigid. Let the highly paid players dictate from time to time, its called off the cuff. Dont berate a player for kicking on the 3rd when you insisted it should have been 4th.
Let the team breath, remember the wire game Justin?
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"
Let the team breath, remember the wire game Justin?'"
You were really good against us, but remember it was 16 all after an hour.
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| You're 7th in the table and have beaten Saints, Leeds and Warrington already. Bradford have recruited world class in Orford and have a pretty mean pack. Don't be so spoilt.
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| the 1st time that steve mac has been able to recruit well,and bulls fans are seeing a difference
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| How much is your lack of scoring down to a small pack or is it down to being too predictable with Dobson?
Think it is a bit harsh to get on Morgans back after what he did last season, your squad has effectively been weakened in the off season IMO so to get anywhere near the top 4 would be a minor miracle. Top 8 and it should be classed as a succesful season.
Try thinking how bad you would feel now with Agar as your coach!!
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| Quote ="hullbg"How much is your lack of scoring down to a small pack or is it down to being too predictable with Dobson?
Think it is a bit harsh to get on Morgans back after what he did last season, your squad has effectively been weakened in the off season IMO so to get anywhere near the top 4 would be a minor miracle. Top 8 and it should be classed as a succesful season.
[u:3gt120isTry thinking how bad you would feel now with Agar as your coach!![/[/u
as bad as we do
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| morgan out morgan out morgan out
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| Quote ="hullbg"How much is your lack of scoring down to a small pack or is it down to being too predictable with Dobson?
Think it is a bit harsh to get on Morgans back after what he did last season, your squad has effectively been weakened in the off season IMO so to get anywhere near the top 4 would be a minor miracle. Top 8 and it should be classed as a succesful season.
[uTry thinking how bad you would feel now with Agar as your coach[/u!!'"
And where are those coaches sitting in the league table presently..Not entirley happy with Agar, however would not trade him in for Morgan (who is going to get found out this year )
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| Exactly who do hkr fans think they are?
Without Morgan you'd still be in nl1.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Exactly who do hkr fans think they are?
Without Morgan you'd still be in nl1.'"
Got to agree, we might be having a bit of a slump but to mute at getting rid is plain ridiculous. Maybe its a symptom of having achieved more than we expected in the last 3 years that has raised expectations now.
We are going to have to realise that we may have to have to take a few steps back to take the next one forward but I'd rather do that with Morgan than without. Let him have a a year of proper recruitment. Our recruitment so far has gone in line with our position.
1st get a team to get us up, then get a team to keep us up. We then got a team to establish ourselves, which actually achieved more and got us competetive now we need to add some real quality to make us a team capable of winning things.
Listening to some I think they would go again for the short term, knee jerk signings rather than playing the long game and getting who we really need. We are in real need of a 6, probably a quality 9 and another big prop. Some would sell our souls to get any 6 in now rather than wait until the a real target becomes available. I've hear names like Jamie Rooney mentioned, Is he really going to take us to the next level or would he be just another player sat on our cap next year we don't want.
Get us into the 8 this year (we are good enough), win a play off game (that would be progress) then recruit quality not quantity.
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| Quote ="barham red"Got to agree, we might be having a bit of a slump but to mute at getting rid is plain ridiculous. Maybe its a symptom of having achieved more than we expected in the last 3 years that has raised expectations now.
We are going to have to realise that we may have to have to take a few steps back to take the next one forward but I'd rather do that with Morgan than without. Let him have a a year of proper recruitment. Our recruitment so far has gone in line with our position.
1st get a team to get us up, then get a team to keep us up. We then got a team to establish ourselves, which actually achieved more and got us competetive now we need to add some real quality to make us a team capable of winning things.
Listening to some I think they would go again for the short term, knee jerk signings rather than playing the long game and getting who we really need. We are in real need of a 6, probably a quality 9 and another big prop. Some would sell our souls to get any 6 in now rather than wait until the a real target becomes available. I've hear names like Jamie Rooney mentioned, Is he really going to take us to the next level or would he be just another player sat on our cap next year we don't want.
Get us into the 8 this year (we are good enough), win a play off game (that would be progress) then recruit quality not quantity.'"
Great post BR.
People have to remember how far we have come under Morgan. Im as frustrated with some of the performances this season as the next person, however getting on Morgans & certain players backs isn't going to achieve anything.
A top 8, (preferably 6th) finish & a good run in the play offs & I will be happy.
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| Morgan is the man for job for me, it was always going to be a struggle to match last seasons performance due to so many clubs going out and strengthening their squads.
I dont think Morgan was ever quite happy with Cooke at 6. Now we have little choice but to play I'Anson, who I also believe Morgan probably has little confidence in and you can see it from the role Morgs has him playing(or lack of role). Morgan needs to bring in a 6 that he has confidence in!
Think there will be alot more posts like this coming up for the rest of the season as I think we will blow hot and cold but as long as we make the play-offs this year, I will be reasonably happy.
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| Morgan is as good as any coach in Super League this year, all coaches/teams are extremely unpredictable this year (Quinns beating Wigan for one).
Plus, he seems to do a very efficient job of promoting the club, as i'm sure i've seen him on he tele once or twice.
Truth be told, i've enjoyed the NL1 games much more this year.
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| Quote ="Jim Rockfords 13"Morgan is as good as any coach in Super League this year, all coaches/teams are extremely unpredictable this year (Quinns beating Wigan for one).
Plus, he seems to do a very efficient job of promoting the club, as i'm sure i've seen him on he tele once or twice.
=#80FF40Truth be told, i've enjoyed the NL1 games much more this year.'"
because you were winning?
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| Quote ="Andyhullofalad"After yet another inept performance (scorless after 77mins) i stood in the odsal strand wondering how long is this rubbish going to continue for.
I know i'm going to get shot to bits for my next statemant, but has Justin gone stale and is it time for a change.
What the guy has done for HKR is not in question but the direction we are now heading IS.
Wigan, Wakey, Hull, Hudds (cup) 40 mins scoreless, Catalan, Bradford, scorless for 70+ mins, Hudds niled at home, Leeds 1 point in second half.
I'm not alone in thinking its time Justin moved on, because he has built this team and quite frankley we are SHOCKING in both attack and defence.
I pay good money for myself and my family to foillow the robins and after today this is the last nail in the coffin for our MESSIAH and i call for MORGAN OUT!!!!!'"
You should be greatful that this man given you a super league team.
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| Quote ="clubfoot fc"You should be greatful that this man given you a super league team.'"
You could say the same about Brown and Hull City, it doesnt mean sometimes a change is (isnt) needed, just like players - James Webster got us here aswell, doesnt mean we should / have to keep him just because of that. Times change and you have to move along with them.
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| Quote ="very red robin"You could say the same about Brown and Hull City, it doesnt mean sometimes a change is needed, just like players - James Webster got us here aswell, doesnt mean we should / have to keep him just because of that. Times change and you have to move along with them.'"
True but if people on here didn't think Morgan was the right man for the job why didnt they mention it last year?
Lets get it right brown got sacked from city cos they were in the bottom 3 and needed to stay in the league for financial reasons. Rovers are nowhere near the bottom of the league and have beaten both grand finalists from last season.
Even if he was sacked who would you replace him with bearing in mind your current financial position?
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| Whats wrong wirth our current financial position? As far as i know the debt we had was written off by our board, therefore there is no debt......
IMO there isnt anyone out there to get thats in Morgans league. Ive heard people say bring Webster in; very doubtful hes better then Morgan, Also heard Browns name been mentioned - but why the hell would he leave Hudds for another SL team right now?
IMO i just think we need some fresh ideas, maybe take them away for a weekend of team building in the Peaks on a weekend of the Challenge Cup, just to shake the week up abit.
All in all, if that doesnt work...... ill take over.
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| Quote ="very red robin"Whats wrong wirth our current financial position? As far as i know the debt we had was written off by our board, therefore there is no debt......
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Underwritten, rather than written off, I think.
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| Quote ="very red robin"Whats wrong wirth our current financial position? As far as i know the debt we had was written off by our board, therefore there is no debt......
IMO there isnt anyone out there to get thats in Morgans league. Ive heard people say bring Webster in; very doubtful hes better then Morgan, Also heard Browns name been mentioned - but why the hell would he leave Hudds for another SL team right now?
IMO i just think we need some fresh ideas, maybe take them away for a weekend of team building in the Peaks on a weekend of the Challenge Cup, just to shake the week up abit.
All in all, if that doesnt work...... ill take over.
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I agree there isn't anyone available who is better than morgan, No super league coach will leave mid season to go to another club.
I think some of you are over reacting big time to 2 defeats before that you beaten quins and wire and scored almost 90 points.
As for you taking over
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| Well WHEN i take over.... I will put season tickets up £20. But i will demolish the joke that is Club rovers.
I will create a team that will win the treble in 2013 and be the biggest force RL as ever seen, vision of beating Sydney away 56-12; for that £20 extra.
If im just taking over coaching and not the whole club then i will put Rhys in 2nd row, Galea to Loose Man, and i will take the team into the playoffs and winning 2 of the games, then next season I will bring in Brown and a new centre (not made my mind up who yet) we will win the challenge cup and finish top 4. Season after that we will win the league and the challenge cup. Then i will take Hull KR around the world beating any team that dare stand in our way
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| Whilst i'm not saying it's time to get rid of Morgan; I do think he needs to take a look at what he'd doing. We need another half back now; it was his inability to get along with Cookie that left us relying totally on Dobson. And we need more aggresion up front.
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| When you compare rovers and Hull to wire, leeds, wigan, saints and hudds, it's clear that they are technically light years ahead of us (even though we will beat them on occassion), despite spending the same amount on players (possibly less at hudds). Poor coaching is the issue IMO. Look at what maguire has done at wigan this year with the same squad noble had, likewise smith and cullen. If you want a top class team you need a coach who has worked in the best environments in the game and that isn't morgan or agar.
I can see why rovers persevere with morgan as he's got you up and kept you there
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