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| Much maligned recently, but I thought he had a fantastic game last night.
I really believe that given the time to settle in at hooker, he will develop into one of the best in the league.
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| just short of pace, otherwise id agree.
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| Quote ="tonylRobin"just short of pace, otherwise id agree.'"
For me the hooker/pace argument is a bit of a myth. Yes, if he had blistering pace it would be a great asset, but it would be for any other position. Scott seems to have an uncanny to ghost through gaps and use his strength to hold off men, as he showed last night. He looks to me like he can develop into a hooker that can control the game. In recent memory I can think of two international hookers, Terry Newton and James Lowes who didnt have any pace.
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| i agree that he will turn into a good hooker, but he needs to learn quick, how many times did he turn the ball back inside and get his team mate smashed? but he will learn from experience im sure
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| I'm sure he will learn his lessons fast, he seems to have done in the past, I'm confident he can be good for us in the hooking role, given a bit of time. Thought he had a good game last night, imo was the one who changed the game for us last night, with his timely 40 20 and try. The then introduction of Fisher was great, as it allowed to to keep the momentum going and apply some pressure. Given the right tactics and smart interchanges between these two players, I think they will both offer good things to our performances.
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| Not convinced yet, think we are missing some of his big defence, loose man for me.
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| Im sorry but as much as we all love scotty he is not our best hooker, we r a much better attacking force with fisher at hooker, ben is quicker at play the ball which gives our attack that little bit more time which is essential against teams with quick defences......... Scott was outstanding at loose forward last season so why change it ???
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| Quote ="tonylRobin"i agree that he will turn into a good hooker, but he needs to learn quick, =#FF0000how many times did he turn the ball back inside and get his team mate smashed? but he will learn from experience im sure'"
We worked the ruck over to much IMO and failed to gain any advantage, noticed it alot at the start of this season.
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| The one thing that will stop him being a top hooker is his inability to play a pass without having to get upright first. It means a slow pass out. Cunningham is a master at it and hence he is a great hooker. His scoot and ability are not in question, maybe he can train this into his game and make this position his own.
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| Quote ="barham red"=#FF0000The one thing that will stop him being a top hooker is his inability to play a pass without having to get upright first. It means a slow pass out. Cunningham is a master at it and hence he is a great hooker. His scoot and ability are not in question, =#FF0000maybe he can train this into his game and make this position his own.'"
I see what your saying, you can tell the distribution speed when he has interchanged with Fisher but Murrell has been training in this position for what I would imagine all of pre-season and maybe he just aint going to get that natural speed as others.
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| He's not going to be one of the best in the competition i'm afraid although there was a significant improvement last night.
Watch Berrigan to see what a really top class 9 does out of dummy half
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"He's not going to be one of the best in the competition i'm afraid although there was a significant improvement last night.
Watch Berrigan to see what a really top class 9 does out of dummy half'"
Nail on the head.
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| Quote ="Alex Mc"Much maligned recently, but I thought he had a fantastic game last night.
I really believe that given the time to settle in at hooker, he will develop into [size=150one of the best in the league[/size.'"
mmmmm........
not better than berrigan,diskin,randall for starters.......
in my opinion..
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| Quote ="berro's best mate"mmmmm........
not better than berrigan,diskin,randall for starters.......
in my opinion..
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Not sure how you can actually rate Berrigan so highly on his form in SL, or are you just looking on the 4 games he has played this season?
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"Not sure how you can actually rate Berrigan so highly on his form in SL, or are you just looking on the 4 games he has played this season?'"
berrigan is far and away a better player than murell......dont get me wrong berrigans form at fc has been patchy but he has usually been played out of position or playing with a niggling injury etc..wereas murrell is playing his best footy and still isnt in the same class as berrigan
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| Quote ="berro's best mate"berrigan is far and away a better player than murell......dont get me wrong berrigans form at fc has been patchy but he has usually been played out of position or playing with a niggling injury etc..wereas murrell is playing his best footy and still isnt in the same class as berrigan'"
Rubbish, murrell would have been a shoe in for queensland and the 'roos if he'd been born an aussie
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Rubbish, murrell would have been a shoe in for queensland and the 'roos if he'd been born an aussie'"
please tell me thats a joke
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| Quote ="berro's best mate"berrigan is far and away a better player than murell......
dont get me wrong berrigans form at fc has been patchy but he has usually been played out of position or playing with a niggling injury etc..
wereas murrell is playing his best footy and still isnt in the same class as berrigan'"
Has anybody said any different?
Been played out of position? not from what I have seen, probably played at least 95% in this country at hooker. His overall performance in ESL so far is so very average!
Murrell playing his best footy, is that only in your mind?
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"Been played out of position? not from what I have seen, probably played at least 95% in this country at hooker. His overall performance in ESL so far is so very average!'"
Berrigan has played 48 SL games for Hull FC. For your statement to be correct, he has played only 2 games out of position. He has played centre, second row, LF, scrum half and hooker whilst at the club. He covered Adam Dykes at SH in 2008, Dykes missing 14 rounds. He had to fill in at SH (with Lee/Houghton at hooker) in 2009 because Thorman was so poor - Thorman played in all but 6 games but several were off the bench. You're way off the mark on this one. I'm not disputing that Berrigan's performances thus far have fallen short of expectations, but to suggest playing out of position at scrum half is not a key factor in this is lunacy.
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| Quote ="tonylRobin"i agree that he will turn into a good hooker, but he needs to learn quick, how many times did he turn the ball back inside and get his team mate smashed? but he will learn from experience im sure'"
not a hooker ! looks slow around ruck and passing from dummy half is not the best, fisher much better at 9 and playing him there each week isnt going to change this, move him back to loose forward !
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"Has anybody said any different?
Been played out of position? not from what I have seen, probably played at least 95% in this country at hooker. [uHis overall performance in ESL so far is so very average![/u
Murrell playing his best footy, is that only in your mind?'"
Average Give over!!
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"icon_eek.gif Average
:2ex1cn7bGive offer!![/
£10 per match and as much as he could drink in the Weir, which if rumours are correct would take his wages into four figures
Good enough offer.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Berrigan has played 48 SL games for Hull FC. For your statement to be correct, he has played only 2 games out of position. He has played centre, second row, LF, scrum half and hooker whilst at the club. He covered Adam Dykes at SH in 2008, Dykes missing 14 rounds. He had to fill in at SH (with Lee/Houghton at hooker) in 2009 because Thorman was so poor - Thorman played in all but 6 games but several were off the bench. You're way off the mark on this one. I'm not disputing that Berrigan's performances thus far have fallen short of expectations, but to suggest playing out of position at scrum half is not a key factor in this is lunacy.'"
Rupert Pupkin knows all shocker
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| Quote ="Bertie"
I'll give you that one Bert
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| Berrigan is world class, his fitness would be my only concern.
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