I hope we get Abdul. Quality player. Our second best behind Lunt n his season here. Broke his leg then played in a shambles of a side for the last dozen games. Still set up their scores in the derby. Great option to have in any squad. Halves are not easy to come by and he has a good future in front of him.
On other signings we appear to be doing the same as last year. Appear to be being used and outbid for players. Don't appear to have anything concrete sorted and look like picking up the left overs. Could have 4 overseas spots. If we had anything in the bag would Blair and Carney still be being talked about....looking grim at this point.

I simply don't think that we have genuine ambitions to challenge the top sides. NH enjoys getting column inches with negative soundbites like the game is withering on the vine and foundations of sand plus handbags comments about other chairmen. However nothing solid and positive about OUR club and direction - marquee signings, more investment in back room, Peacock's achievements and aims of our reserve grade and plans. It would be refreshing to hear exactly what the Board see us as because I don't see anything other than survival and a couple of Derby wins on our wish list for next year.

We have released at least 9 players maybe more depending on Blair and T Carney plus Heffernan and J Carney gone and Quinlan injured. Our only signings so far from other qualifier clubs.

I think we will have some signings up our sleeves but they need to be big names like when we had the set your alarm announcement a few years ago.

In previous years the benefits of leaving recruitment later have been mentioned on occasion. If you’ve allocated your budget and somebody comes available, you miss that chance. Those players are in a weaker negotiating position because they have fewer options, and if you can save a couple of months wages for a small handful of players that frees up money to be spent elsewhere.

On the other hand, you’d like players to join preseason training sooner rather than later, especially those most important to the playing structure, and we’ve equally heard that delayed recruitment owing to the uncertainty of being in the 8s has been problematic. Also, for all that they both turned out to be excellent signings in their own ways, the announcement of Tickle and Vaivai was a sobering moment - gambles can pay off, but that’s all you’re maybe going to get as we get closer and into 2019.

Ateotd, Sheens seemed to have pretty clear idea of what he needs in his recent radio interview, and while getting it may be difficult there are advantages to a slower, more considered approach. Although we released 9, some were definitely from the homegrown fringes of the squad and will be replaced by academy graduates. With 3 new players already confirmed, it is only maybe 3 or 4 more that we need, and we need to get them right. My hope is that a couple are the type that make people sit up and take notice, as statements of intent - no idea where we find them, unfortunately.

Jesus Zook why so negative?

What are you expecting next year. We are not going to go from promotion, to surviving to top 4 in 3 years are we. However idealistic that sounds it’s not realistic. The aim of the club is to continue growing year on year and improving year on year. We aren’t a rich club, we aren’t one of the top 4 and fishing in the same small pool of players makes it difficult. Regardless of who we sign this pre season the biggest signings we have done in years is to sign up our young talent on long deals, that’s how we will progress but it’s not a quick fix.

Set your alarm clocks folks, massive signing! It’s Willie Mason!! That went well.

Signing names and big players for the sake of a name is not how recruitment is done. Look at Toronto this year achieved nothing. If TS signs players who he thinks brings value to the team then I will trust his judgement not exactly been wrong so far as he. This expectation of unreal signings with the mentioned factors and not forgetting a weak exchange rate nowadays is just pie in the sky ultimately.

Konrad Hurrell is a good signing, but let’s not pretend he’s a susperstar of the game similar to how players of previous years such as Lyon, Ridley, johns etc were when they signed

Don’t understand some of the negativity on here. I looked on TS appointment as a new beginning. The aim in the first season was promotion. That was achieved without the million pound game. The aim in his second season was SL survival. That again was achieved without the million pound game. Finishing tenth in the regular season showed progress and I don’t think realistically a promoted club could expect more than that. Who knows what the future holds but I would hope to get into the top eight and therefore show further progress.

Toronto and others before them have shown you cannot just buy success, you need good foundations, a good team spirit and a willingness to play for each other not just a team of individual good players.

I believe TS has a vision of our future and think that his achievements over his first two seasons entitle him to our support and trust in 2019. Time will tell.

I don’t think many doubt Sheens or fail to appreciate what he has helped us do since arriving.

However, taking the next step will be difficult, and in some ways it feels like it has taken us seven years to get back to square one. So, we do have to be realistic, but I think sometimes we’ve managed expectations in a way that has become self-fulfilling. It’d be a lot to ask for us to do a Cas, but surely we can have a crack at mid-table?!

Top 6 of Warry Wigan Sts Catalan Wakey Cas looks nailed on in whichever order.Places 7 to 11 look a bun fight between Salford Hudds Leeds and the 2 Hull sides at present.Always the possibility of a team overachieving or a big side having a poor season but unless these new signings really are top notch then it is really about consolidation for us. The rumours of 2 big name Aussies was doing the rounds last season as long as we stayed up.Just have to be patient. On a side note, got my Poppy shirt on Thursday.Nice bit of kit imo.

Can't believe I'm reading some of the negativity on here.

I will be honest, I am new to the forum, and with my user name, yes I'm from the Wakefield area, and not Kingston upon Hull.

I am a lifelong Wakefield Trinity fan, but have been married to a Hull KR fan for 14 years. We have adopted each other's teams as 2nd clubs, so have seen quite a few Hull KR games.

Most pundits expected Hull KR to be in the MPG, I didn't. Yes I think the squad needs to be strengthened, but from what i saw in 2016, I would just say, be smarter on big name signings. For me, in 2015 and 16, you had 3, in Kelly, Blair and Campese. When they were all on the pitch at the same time, you were a real threat, unfortunately, that didn't happen often enough.

Unfortunately, it appeared that to accommodate these, it appeared that you had to keep costs down to keep the squad within budget and cap, with consequences in the MPG.

We have shown that you don't have to spend big to compete, but just spend wisely.

Can't believe I'm reading some of the negativity on here.

I will be honest, I am new to the forum, and with my user name, yes I'm from the Wakefield area, and not Kingston upon Hull.

I am a lifelong Wakefield Trinity fan, but have been married to a Hull KR fan for 14 years. We have adopted each other's teams as 2nd clubs, so have seen quite a few Hull KR games.

Most pundits expected Hull KR to be in the MPG, I didn't. Yes I think the squad needs to be strengthened, but from what i saw in 2016, I would just say, be smarter on big name signings. For me, in 2015 and 16, you had 3, in Kelly, Blair and Campese. When they were all on the pitch at the same time, you were a real threat, unfortunately, that didn't happen often enough.

Unfortunately, it appeared that to accommodate these, it appeared that you had to keep costs down to keep the squad within budget and cap, with consequences in the MPG.

We have shown that you don't have to spend big to compete, but just spend wisely.

some clubs invest money on their stadiums and tidy them up, dont think wakey have spent a penny on theirs, it all goes on players so you are no example

Was a guy posting as Eastern Wildcat I think with similar aspects? Welcome back if so or just welcome? Fair points and it does feel a bit negative at the moment but nothing a couple of good signings won't sort. As some have said we have signed Hauraki Keinhorst Lannon plus Hall Crooks Tompkins late on and are basically new players.Tompkins in particular I think will show us his best with a full pre season.Hopefully add a half and maybe another Polynesian type forward and we are about right.Im certain the club have it sorted but are sitting on the news. Expect a big build up for unveiling

Yes there was, and I know him, though not too well.

He's decent, but having read some of his comments, he was getting, from some areas, a bit of unjustified stick. Think he's come off it for a bit.

Yes I'm sure you'll do the right thing regarding signatures.

As for the stadium, I do see your point, but I don't know if your fully aware or not, of the situation. It's a bit political, and a bit of a farce to be honest. The leader of our council is a fan, and I believe has a stake in another RL club, who falls under the WF postal and council area, who are in need of a new stadium. Can't realistically seeing us getting ours first.

Over and above that, all improvements to the area known as Wake field and the Five Towns, seem to be getting done in that area, leaving the centre to deteriorate. Think the net is slowly closing in on him, as his majority has reduced, and is becoming under increasing pressure to step down.

There is a lot more to add to this

For me, the different trajectories we took after your difficult 2015 and eventual MPG win is one of the most obvious compare and contrasts. I’ve done our 2016 to death, and with promotion, survival and the end of the 8s it feels like we’ve got a clean slate. Which is fantastic - but as a fan base I think we’re curious, and even nervous about what the club will try to do with this opportunity. Until things become clearer, I suspect we’ll continue to overanalyse and fret.

Most of the clubs in SL, I have a fair idea of the level of success they’re targeting and how they’re doing it. Having spent two years dragging ourselves out of the mire, my own club’s ambitions for and approach to 2019 remain fairly mysterious to me, for now.

I’m told today that Garbutt is on his way to HKR for next season.

Hope not, he is to nnaarrssttyy for me. A poor mans Justin Poore (if you pardon the pun)

I think he's a good player, but he spends a lot of time out injured. Not sure if that's where we should be using a quota space, but would add to the let's not get bullied factor

Scruton
Jewitt
Masoe
Mulhern
Lannon
Garbutt



Johnson - would be surprised if he stays mind.

Garbutt would be a good signing but not sure prop is an area we need strengthening?

Good signing if true,had a knee op in august but has played 72 matches since 2015,only 29 so would be welcome imo,pretty mobile and a decent ball handler,hopefully its true.

It could be true would certainly fit our only sign ex Leeds or Salford players recruitment policy

I’d like another good prop.

Johnson remains a project, and depth player imo. Masoe, Jewitt, Scruton, Mulhern and potentially Garbutt would be a decent frontline five competing for four spots in the seventeen.

I’ve seen some count Lannon as a prop, but he’s more of a backrower currently, as I understand it, LF or SR.

What an ignoRant comment. Our stadium situation is a lot more complex than just soending pennies on it.

I think Wilzay, if we had been able to buy the stadium back a couple of years back, rather than been hastily advised against it by York Court, and look where that got us, we could well have been able to have a re vamped Belle Vue over time, say Western Terrace one year, than East Stand another season etc, which gradual development is what Hull KR have done at theirs

When it was first built around 1991, it was quite basic, but their corporate rooms are quite stylish these days, and also the Colin Hutton stand is pretty good too. All of which have been recent additions

It was a real uphill struggle. Probably the club’s most important achievement of the last few years, but given most RL clubs’ fairly modest revenue streams I think the challenge is often understated. The club took on a mortgage to pay for its share, so it has to pay its way.