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| Quote ="BiltonRobin"I am assuming that your dual registration agreement with Donny is still in place so your young starlets will get some game time there.
Your problems will arise when they become frustrated with the lack of first team opportunities and are tempted to leave.
All the club's investment in youth development will be to someone else's advantage.
This a problem throughout the game, with clubs putting success before foundation.Overseas players dominate our game and block player development.'"
The 23s comp was to try and help this situation as a sort of under grade comp but the poor leadership at the rugby league have failed again to get on board at least my club is trying to find a pathway for young players and so was your club until the money strings got cut
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| Fc eaststander... why dont you stop taking so much interest in our club nd thinking you know everything about our club and get on your own clubs forum and worry about them. If you knew what kelly actually did you should worry about.the harmony in your dressing room!!!! See you in the middle 8's!!
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| Quote ="joewhkr"Fc eaststander... why dont you stop taking so much interest in our club nd thinking you know everything about our club and get on your own clubs forum and worry about them. If you knew what kelly actually did you should worry about.the harmony in your dressing room!!!! See you in the middle 8's!!'"
Do you really think by signing one player(not even a poor one), we will drop 8 places and finish in the middle 8's. If he does anything wrong, then he won't play and will be released and we will be fine.
It's a risk, but one worth taking with our depth.
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| Quote ="fc-eaststander"Ok ill make it a bit simple for you
by sacking Kelly you don't have to pay him off his contract which he had left, you get rid for misconduct saving you a small fortune and freeing up cap space, maybe he deserved it I like don't know but lets face it suspending your best player when your fighting for SL survival was not the best decision ever made at your club your opponents will have been doing cart wheels
I can only deduce from this that the your management team thought you where in no trouble and you would ease through the rest of the middle 8s and so get rid of Kelly on the cheap less a years contract money but it went t+ts up, can you see any other reason why you would suspend one of your best players at this time ? you took a gamble and it went very wrong bad management from a guy who given the chance will be gone as soon as he can with his 5 year plan
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If you'd seen Kelly play against Leeds in the middle 8s you might have a different opinion he was terrible and arguably cost us the game to suggest we took a risk to save a bit of money is ridiculous
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"If you'd seen Kelly play against Leeds in the middle 8s you might have a different opinion he was terrible and arguably cost us the game to suggest we took a risk to save a bit of money is ridiculous'"
Half your squad was poor last year every time they was on sky, cockayne cost you loads of tries on your line, we won't have no trouble with Kelly.
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"Half your squad was poor last year every time they was on sky, cockayne cost you loads of tries on your line, we won't have no trouble with Kelly.'"
You keep telling yourself that.... everywhere he's been it's the same old story
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| Quote ="Dave K."icon_lol.gif
Do you really think by signing one player(not even a poor one), we will drop 8 places and finish in the middle 8's. If he does anything wrong, then he won't play and will be released and we will be fine.
It's a risk, but one worth taking with our depth.'"
Wasnt saying that just because you've signed kelly... You black and whites just irritate me.. you all seem to think you know the ins and out of our club.. should concentrate on yours and let us concentrate on ours... I couldn't care less what goes on at your club. So dont see why you lot are so interested in ours..
Also I was a big fan of alby and think on his day he is unplayable.. but if what I believe he's done is true then if I was lee radford I wouldn't of gone near him... even his best mate maurice blair doesnt talk to him now from what I'm told
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| Quote ="joewhkr"Fc eaststander... why dont you stop taking so much interest in our club nd thinking you know everything about our club and get on your own clubs forum and worry about them. If you knew what kelly actually did you should worry about.the harmony in your dressing room!!!! See you in the middle 8's!!'"
I had the conversation about middle8s next season with a hull fan but he got all gangster when I suggested hull wouldn't be top 4 and imo may be back in the perennial fight between 6-9.i wouldn't be that surprised to see them and us in the middle 8. Interesting season ahead for both teams
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| To suggest Rovers sacked Kelly purely as a financial measure is naive in the extreme, as anyone with even a passing understanding of employment law will tell you.
Kelly was suspended for a last straw act, which was at the end of a long line of previous misdemeanours. I applaud the club for taking a principled stand against a very disruptive bloke, who had lost support from all his work colleagues at that point.
His dismissal would have been on solid legal grounds otherwise we'd be looking at an unfair dismissal case from fat lad.
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| Quote ="craig hkr"I had the conversation about middle8s next season with a hull fan but he got all gangster when I suggested hull wouldn't be top 4 and imo may be back in the perennial fight between 6-9.i wouldn't be that surprised to see them and us in the middle 8. Interesting season ahead for both teams'"
Don't be daft Craig.
We don't have a Woolworths no more but pick any shop window in the HU1 vicinity, & I will gladly get my @rse out, if we get in the middle 8s, I'll even get Radders to join me.
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| Apart from return late from Oz, what did he do that warranted his dismissal?
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| Quote Fc eaststander... why dont you stop taking so much interest in our club nd thinking you know everything about our club and get on your own clubs forum and worry about them. If you knew what kelly actually did you should worry about.the harmony in your dressing room!!!! See you in the middle 8's!!'"
Leeds and Huddersfield are testament to just how quickly things can turn sour, if adequate, on going recruitment is not managed well. That said , if anything, we have an arguably stronger squad for the next campaign , than we did this time last year, so I don't see that scenario becoming a reality at Hull, especially as Salford, Wakefield, Widnes and Huddersfield are not really stronger this year, with at least two of that four being considerably weaker than last season.
Watched the highlights of Heffenden's best bits on youtube, which can sometimes be mis-leading, but, given that he will make his bow in what should be a dominant Championship team, you look to have signed a good player and Sheens' contacts look to be already significantly better than the three previous incumbent's. I think you'll be in the middle 8's and possibly get promoted, depends on the latter part of season reinforcements you van attract, but not us.
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| FC won't be in the middle 8's barring a cataclysmic injury crisis, Kelly on a one year 'last chance saloon' deal will work his socks off and will win them games. We sacked him, he moved on.
Everybody happy now!
Can we get back to KR related matters now?
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"Don't be daft Craig.
We don't have a Woolworths no more but pick any shop window in the HU1 vicinity, & I will gladly get my @rse out, if we get in the middle 8s, I'll even get Radders to join me.'"
That dildo shop on ferensway? You may be right but Il file this post away borista style to rake up should chance arrive..
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| Quote ="Super Alf Macklin"Leeds and Huddersfield are testament to just how quickly things can turn sour, if adequate, on going recruitment is not managed well. That said , if anything, we have an arguably stronger squad for the next campaign , than we did this time last year, so I don't see that scenario becoming a reality at Hull, especially as Salford, Wakefield, Widnes and Huddersfield are not really stronger this year, with at least two of that four being considerably weaker than last season.
Watched the highlights of Heffenden's best bits on youtube, which can sometimes be mis-leading, but, given that he will make his bow in what should be a dominant Championship team, you look to have signed a good player and Sheens' contacts look to be already significantly better than the three previous incumbent's. I think you'll be in the middle 8's and possibly get promoted, depends on the latter part of season reinforcements you van attract, but not us.'"
The thing with YouTube clips is that every player looks great so you might as well ignore them in reality
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| Quote ="Super Alf Macklin"Leeds and Huddersfield are testament to just how quickly things can turn sour, if adequate, on going recruitment is not managed well. That said , if anything, we have an arguably stronger squad for the next campaign , than we did this time last year, so I don't see that scenario becoming a reality at Hull, especially as Salford, Wakefield, Widnes and Huddersfield are not really stronger this year, with at least two of that four being considerably weaker than last season.
Watched the highlights of Heffenden's best bits on youtube, which can sometimes be mis-leading, but, given that he will make his bow in what should be a dominant Championship team, you look to have signed a good player and Sheens' contacts look to be already significantly better than the three previous incumbent's. I think you'll be in the middle 8's and possibly get promoted, depends on the latter part of season reinforcements you van attract, but not us.'"
Knew alf macklin through local darts in 2000s very good chucker and a good bloke.dont really remember his playing days tho
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| On kr matters ,any news on quinlan and any date for shirt unveiling?
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| Quote ="fc-eaststander"You suspended him penny pinching as always and it back fired, you thought with campo back you would be safe and it all went up in your face, Peacock wanted rid of Kelly to help with cap space and as normal instead of biting the bullet and moving him out in the right way to another club you tried sacking him to save on his outstanding contract.
Lets face it Peacock has made some terrible decisions in only one year, getting Webster in who has no SL coaching experience, another penny pinching appointment, the first time Peacock is offered another role at another club he will be gone I heard he applied to Leeds only a few weeks ago so much for his 5 year plan your been taken down the garden path stop the bitterness towards our club and look at your own without the red rose tinted glasses on'"
Was Radford a penny pinching appointment aswell then?
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| Quote ="craig hkr"That dildo shop on ferensway? You may be right but Il file this post away borista style to rake up should chance arrive..'"
Deal.
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| Quote ="SirStan"To suggest Rovers sacked Kelly purely as a financial measure is naive in the extreme, as anyone with even a passing understanding of employment law will tell you.
Kelly was suspended for a last straw act, which was at the end of a long line of previous misdemeanours. I applaud the club for taking a principled stand against a very disruptive bloke, who had lost support from all his work colleagues at that point.
His dismissal would have been on solid legal grounds otherwise we'd be looking at an unfair dismissal case from fat lad.'"
I think it's fairly obvious to anyone with a brain that Kelly has been a bit of knob during his time at Rovers, could be the last chance for Kelly, a bit like Chase at Cas.
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| Quote ="Eton Street Rifle"Apart from return late from Oz, what did he do that warranted his dismissal?'"
Put a pack of Menos in Hudge's Diet Coke and it fizzed all over his brand new John Smedley jumper.
Hudge went chicken oriental and Kung Fu chopped Alby right on the corn rows, Alby went off in a strop and chucked Mike's Remington out the window.
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| Quote ="SirStan"To suggest Rovers sacked Kelly purely as a financial measure is naive in the extreme, as anyone with even a passing understanding of employment law will tell you.
Kelly was suspended for a last straw act, which was at the end of a long line of previous misdemeanours. I applaud the club for taking a principled stand against a very disruptive bloke, who had lost support from all his work colleagues at that point.
His dismissal would have been on solid legal grounds otherwise we'd be looking at an unfair dismissal case from fat lad.'"
don't disagree with anything you say in your second sentence but to say it was not for financial reasons they took the decision to suspend him at that point in your season, that is naïve, rovers saw a way out of the rest of his contract without paying him off they couldn't play him if that was there intention after they suspended him or they would have deemed to have put the matter to bed but by keeping him on suspension and then sacking him they walk away without comp, but was it the right decision? would he have made the difference in those last few games? I think he would so to me it was a poor call and may have cost you your SL place and financially a million quid one of a string of stinking calls made by your management team in my opinion, but if you genuinely think it was the right call fair enough like ou say its your club this is just a discussion forum that's all
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| Quote ="Sandro II Terrorista"Put a pack of Menos in Hudge's Diet Coke and it fizzed all over his brand new John Smedley jumper.
Hudge went chicken oriental and Kung Fu chopped Alby right on the corn rows, Alby went off in a strop and chucked Mike's Remington out the window.'"
Thought as much.
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| Quote ="fc-eaststander"don't disagree with anything you say in your second sentence but to say it was not for financial reasons they took the decision to suspend him at that point in your season, that is naïve, rovers saw a way out of the rest of his contract without paying him off they couldn't play him if that was there intention after they suspended him or they would have deemed to have put the matter to bed but by keeping him on suspension and then sacking him they walk away without comp, but was it the right decision? would he have made the difference in those last few games? I think he would so to me it was a poor call and may have cost you your SL place and financially a million quid one of a string of stinking calls made by your management team in my opinion, but if you genuinely think it was the right call fair enough like ou say its your club this is just a discussion forum that's all'"
But he was such that the entire squad basically refused to play with him so the suspension ( which even with hindsight) was absolutely the right call. I'm not having the cash argument, this was about principles and not allowing someone to do what they liked without consequences.
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| Knew alf macklin through local darts in 2000s very good chucker and a good bloke.dont really remember his playing days tho.
Craig, he worked with my wife at Akzo Nobel, he was a great darts player, as you say. As a winger he was my favourite player when I was a kid, simply because the first game my father took me to was versus Rovers in the mid 70's and Super Alf scored the match winner in the far corner late on in the game.
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