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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"But do you think that the "Ganson incident" was a very poor error or something more sinister as you have alluded?'"
I think a 5 year old could not make such an error.
Maybe Gansons eyes should be checked.
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| Quote ="Chris28"Hahahahahahahaha. Still hurting?'"
Not at all.
Your team full strength team got exposed as nothing more than an inept attacking force against a Rovers team missing 8 players, fielding a couple of players who were unfit on the bench, losing a winger in the first minute, a second rower early in the second-half and also being on the end of some woeful decisions.
Having said that though, we saw in the pre-season friendly (when both teams were near full-strength) that you got blown off the park and also on GF were you were e despite our "one-man team" being sat in the stands and being down to 12 man for a large part of the game so at least Saturday's circumstances helped make the game competitive.
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| An apology is not good enough and dropping Ganson is not good enough ! He s the referees controller and should not be a referee or video ref in the first place. Mistakes do happen granted so how do you stop this happening again hopefully the investigation that must happen should reveal all.
Suggestions
Have two video refs like they do in Australia.
Have a club challenge whereby the decision can be reversed if challenged.
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| Quote ="WormInHand"icon_biggrin.gifEPRESSED: Are you accusing an RFL official of being biased?
Some 'close to the wind' statements on here, today. Where are the Mods....oh, perhaps shouldn't ask.'"
Not at all.
Just that's Jon Sharp is a failure in every RL he has done after his time as a player.
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| Quote ="General Zod."Not at all.
Your team full strength team got exposed as nothing more than an inept attacking force against a Rovers team missing 8 players, fielding a couple of players who were unfit on the bench, losing a winger in the first minute, a second rower early in the second-half and also being on the end of some woeful decisions.
Having said that though, we saw in the pre-season friendly (when both teams were near full-strength) that you got blown off the park and also on GF were you were poop despite our "one-man team" being sat in the stands and being down to 12 man for a large part of the game so at least Saturday's circumstances helped make the game competitive.'"
Full strength team? What about Tickle, Galea, Westerman?
Rovers had 8 players missing? Cory Paterson and a couple others maybe but surely you aren't claiming Gleeson,O'Hara etc.. Plus if you have unfit players on the bench that's your coaches fault, he was brought in to bring on the youth.
Finally if you gauge a pre-season friendly as being the benchmark of full strength teams then you do really not understand their purpose. I will agree is is disappointing we did not put more past you, but my newspaper today shows we got the 2 points.
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| Quote ="sloopjond"Full strength team? What about Tickle, Galea, Westerman?
Rovers had 8 players missing? Cory Paterson and a couple others maybe but surely you aren't claiming Gleeson,O'Hara etc.. Plus if you have unfit players on the bench that's your coaches fault, he was brought in to bring on the youth.
Finally if you gauge a pre-season friendly as being the benchmark of full strength teams then you do really not understand their purpose. I will agree is is disappointing we did not put more past you, but my newspaper today shows we got the 2 points.'"
You forgot arundel, James Cunningham and Jacob miller.
Zod's a clown, he has proved it many, many times on here, but now he is claiming that them beating us in a ore season friendly proves rovers are better than hull is one of his best.
Ever post is about hull, as long as he gets one over us, he is happy, despite the fact we will finish above rovers again this season, like I stated last week.
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| Quote ="sloopjond"Full strength team? What about Tickle, Galea, Westerman?
Rovers had 8 players missing? Cory Paterson and a couple others maybe but surely you aren't claiming Gleeson,O'Hara etc.. Plus if you have unfit players on the bench that's your coaches fault, he was brought in to bring on the youth.
Finally if you gauge a pre-season friendly as being the benchmark of full strength teams then you do really not understand their purpose. I will agree is is disappointing we did not put more past you, but my newspaper today shows we got the 2 points.'"
Galea and Westerman where actually fit to play though wasn't they. Your coach choose not to play them.
Regards Gleeson & O'Hara of course they can be mentioned. They are both Hull Kingston Rovers players who had they been fit would have both played.
Missing we had Welham, Paterson, Gleeson, O'Hara, Hodgson & Griffin. That meant that Tuimavave and Netherton who where badly missing match fitness had to play. We then lost George after 3 minutes & Lovegrove after 60.
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| Quote ="Dave K."You forgot arundel, James Cunningham and Jacob miller.
Zod's a clown, he has proved it many, many times on here, but now he is claiming that them beating us in a ore season friendly proves rovers are better than hull is one of his best.
Ever post is about hull, as long as he gets one over us, he is happy, despite the fact we will finish above rovers again this season, like I stated last week.'"
You can't play without a f*****G Visa you plonker. And who would James Cunningham have replaced in that Hull side with Houghton and Heremaia both fit? I'd also ask the same question of Arundel.
Looking in as a Hull KR fan so tell me if I'm wrong but the only player that would have made it into your squad had he been fit is Danny Tickle.
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| Quote ="Easty"You can't play without a f*****G Visa you plonker. And who would James Cunningham have replaced in that Hull side? with Houghton and Heremaia fit? I'd ask the same question Arundel.
Looking in as a Hull KR fan so tell me if I'm wrong but the only player that would have made it into your squad had he been fit is Danny Tickle.'"
Are you a bit thick, surley it was obvious I ws talking the out of the 8 players missing claim from Zod!,,
So all of the 8 players missing would be in Rovers 17?
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| Quote ="Easty"Galea and Westerman where actually fit to play though wasn't they. Your coach choose not to play them.
Regards Gleeson & O'Hara of course they can be mentioned. They are both Hull Kingston Rovers players who had they been fit would have both played.
Missing we had Welham, Paterson, Gleeson, O'Hara, Hodgson & Griffiths. That meant that Tuimavave and Netherton who where badly missing match fitness had to play. We then lost George after 3 minutes & Lovegrove after 60.'"
Bad coaching, why not play green or Beaumont rather than average unfit or fat players?
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| Quote ="Dave K."Are you a bit thick, surley it was obvious I ws talking the mickey out of the 8 players missing claim from Zod!,,
So all of the 8 players missing would be in Rovers 17?'"
I don't think we have 8 players missing. Still O'Hara, Gleeson, Welham, Hodgson & Patterson would have made the squad at a canter. Griffiths has been playing well and could have possibly made the squad.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Bad coaching, why not play green or Beaumont rather than average unfit or fat players?'"
Because he probably didn't anticipate losing George after 3 minutes and then Lovegrove early in the 2nd half. IF those players stay on the field then Tuimavave and Netherton who both had decent games play less minutes.
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| Quote ="Easty"I don't think we have 8 players missing. Still O'Hara, Gleeson, Welham, Hodgson & Patterson would have made the squad at a canter. Griffiths has been playing well and could have possibly made the squad.[/
So that's 5, we had 2 in Westerman and tickle.
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| Quote ="Easty"Because he probably didn't anticipate losing George after 3 minutes and then Lovegrove early in the 2nd half. IF those players stay on the field then Tuimavave and Netherton who both had decent games play less minutes.'"
Banter aside, I would be disappointed if I was a rovers fan and nether ton was picked in front of green.
Much the same as if our green is dropped in favour of galea (which I expect to happen)
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| Quote ="Dave K."Banter aside, I would be disappointed if I was a rovers fan and nether ton was picked in front of green.
Much the same as if our green is dropped in favour of galea (which I expect to happen)'"
Netherton I'm guessing was brought in to shore up the middle which looking back at the game worked pretty well. Netherton will never burst his way out a paper bag but what he does do is tackle and tackle well. Horses for courses. Sandercock came up with a game plan for the players he had available and if it wasn't for a few controversial decisions his game plan was spot on and we win the game.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Banter aside, I would be disappointed if I was a rovers fan and nether ton was picked in front of green.
Much the same as if our green is dropped in favour of galea (which I expect to happen)'"
Westerman was available for the game wasn't he. Just wasn't selected?
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| Quote ="Easty"Netherton I'm guessing was brought in to shore up the middle which looking back at the game worked pretty well. Netherton will never burst his way out a paper bag but what he does do is tackle and tackle well. Horses for courses. Sandercock came up with a game plan for the players he had available and if it wasn't for a few controversial decisions his game plan was spot on and we win the game.'"
One decision and at the the time it was a draw, with 3 minutes to go and hull dominating. Ok you would have had a penalty 10 meters from your line, but the way you was struggling I would doubt you would have got near the drop goal. Anything could have happened n those last few minutes.
Ignoring the awful, awful green try, both teams got some 50/50 decisions.
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| Quote ="Dave K."One decision and at the the time it was a draw, with 3 minutes to go and hull dominating. Ok you would have had a penalty 10 meters from your line, but the way you was struggling I would doubt you would have got near the drop goal. Anything could have happened n those last few minutes.
Ignoring the awful, awful green try, both teams got some 50/50 decisions.'"
Hall can kick a ball into touch for 40-50 metres. At a bare minimum we'd be taking our 1st drive from halfway. I'm fairly confident we can drive to a point of taking a drop goal from halfway in a set of 6.
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| Quote ="Easty"Netherton I'm guessing was brought in to shore up the middle which looking back at the game worked pretty well. Netherton will never burst his way out a paper bag but what he does do is tackle and tackle well. Horses for courses. Sandercock came up with a game plan for the players he had available and if it wasn't for a few controversial decisions his game plan was spot on and we win the game.'"
Hang on a minute !!!! The scores were tied on 16-16, how do you know that you'd have won the game in the three minutes (??) that were left on the clock ??? What was the other controversial decision aside from the 50/50 offside ??
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| Quote ="Easty"Hall can kick a ball into touch for 40-50 metres. At a bare minimum we'd be taking our 1st drive from halfway. I'm fairly confident we can drive to a point of taking a drop goal from halfway in a set of 6.'"
Confident, maybe. Certain, definitely not. Therefore you cannot say with the merest whiff of accuracy that you'd have gone on and won the game.
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| Quote ="Largeparts"Confident, maybe. Certain, definitely not. Therefore you cannot say with the merest whiff of accuracy that you'd have gone on and won the game.'"
On the same note you can't claim we wouldn't have Anyway it's all resigned to the history books and those history books will say that Hull got the 2pts for ever more. Well done enjoy it Makes the August derby all the more tasty.
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| Quote ="Easty"Hall can kick a ball into touch for 40-50 metres. At a bare minimum we'd be taking our 1st drive from halfway. I'm fairly confident we can drive to a point of taking a drop goal from halfway in a set of 6.'"
We can hold the ball in a scrum after a forward pass, then play 5 drives and a kick to turn you round and then defend the next set.
What's your point?
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| Quote ="Easty"On the same note you can't claim we wouldn't have
Anyway it's all resigned to the history books and those history books will say that Hull got the 2pts for ever more. Well done enjoy it Makes the August derby all the more tasty.'"
You're right, it's tomorrow's chip wrappers now. Like you say, it'll make the August game very interesting. I would be gutted if the boot were on the other foot, indeed as it was last year. It's scant consolation but at least Mr Ganson has admitted his mistake. With the amount of gaffs he makes, you'd think he'd have a permanent apology column in the Yorkshire Post !!!
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| Quote ="Largeparts"You're right, it's tomorrow's chip wrappers now. Like you say, it'll make the August game very interesting. I would be gutted if the boot were on the other foot, indeed as it was last year. It's scant consolation but at least Mr Ganson has admitted his mistake. With the amount of gaffs he makes, you'd think he'd have a permanent apology column in the Yorkshire Post !!!'"
Acceptable though, innit? The man at the top, supposedly our best referee promoted for his great work. He's only a few more mistakes from a knighthood, surely.
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| I felt Hudgell spoils the statement by going over the top and coming across as very bitter. He has some valid points which have become overshadowed by his blubbering.
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