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| Quote ="Fc_exile"Well i want him to personally succeed, yes.
But I thought adding size to your forwards would of been high on the list for the board and JP in the off-season. Plus you need to find a core of your team and add every season. Not keep buying players that are of similar standard.
My point is, you cannot blame Chester solely.'"
Try watching us play its chesters coaching and tactics I want rid now
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"Try watching us play its chesters coaching and tactics I want rid now'"
Look i agree with you, mostly, but sometimes you just have to say 'we are not good enough,' and perhaps build again. God knows FC have had to do that on numerous occasions in the last decade.
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| Not really his fault that you lost. He coached you to scoring 3 tries to 2 and has a massive injury list to deal with. I hope he stays
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| Quote ="Fc_exile"I do feel a little sorry for Chester. Yes, all the frailties are his fault for not rectifying, but the recruitment from the club on a whole for the past few years has been woeful.'"
Recruitment has been patchy at best for the last few years, and I agree to some extent that this is it catching up with us.
Chester was given a cleaner slate than most new coaches, but on the other hand asking him to build a squad almost from scratch was a big ask. Tbf, it didn't go that badly in 2015.
Something went badly awry with our preseason for this year. Hudds and Hull are strong teams, but we were massively off the pace in the friendlies. He and we have had a rough trot with injuries, I know. this was a chance to buy some time. The fixture we needed, tbh, an opportunity to get a first win on the board. And it's been missed.
All that's gone, and I'm not in favour of a punitive sacking. On the other it currently feels like he's dug a bigger hole than he's capable of climbing out of. Even if we're finally ready for the start of the season by April, I can't see much (any) prospect of us avoiding the qualifying 8s again. It's just a question of 'what's the best strategy for staying up?'. Continuity come what may, wait and see if we click, or cut our losses and go in another new direction? A pretty bleak set of options.
Still, at least we're shipping fewer points!
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| We were shocking today, so we're Wakefield though. Even if CC left who could do anything with that squad, not even Wayne Bennett. it's absolutely leaderless IMO, we were clueless at times.
That game should be a home banker but with this squad and coach there's no such thing anymore
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| Who is the idiot who has just claimed your backs are better than ours? The only one I'd consider swapping for his Hull FC counterpart is kelly and only then if he got himself to weighchers first
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| Well after watching that garbage today, that's me out until he's gone. Whether that makes me a plastic fan or not, I can't waste my precious time on a Sunday watching us turn out that $hite.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg" I hope he stays'"
Exactly.
It's not all about Chester, and I don't expect a 180 turnaround in our fortunes if he were replaced.
It's not even about 'fault' or blame. Is he the best available and attainable person to remedy the errors that have been made? It's hard to say 'yes' with much conviction at the moment.
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| As I said before, your squad is rubbish. Pretty much any coach in SL would be getting the same results from this squad with the injuries he has to deal with. The blame lies more in the retention and recruitment than coaching
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| Chessie has had a very rough hand & I've been prepared to cut him some slack. Until today. I can handle losing but that performance was just desperate at every level. He sounded a beaten man afterwards. Something needs to change.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Who is the idiot who has just claimed your backs are better than ours? The only one I'd consider swapping for his Hull FC counterpart is kelly and only then if he got himself to weighchers first'"
You wouldn't want kelly on this seasons performances
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"As I said before, your squad is rubbish. Pretty much any coach in SL would be getting the same results from this squad with the injuries he has to deal with. The blame lies more in the retention and recruitment than coaching'"
As I said before, there's a deal of truth in that - although a lot of these players are his signings.
I think something like 9 or 10 wins from 23 shouldn't have been an unrealistic ambition, expectation even. That feels a long way off now. The 'we kept doing the same things in pre-season and kept getting the same results' quote is the one that keeps nagging away at me. What was the innovative approach we took instead? Whatever it was and whoever is in charge in the future, let's never do it again.
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| Listening to Chester on humberside he should be put on suicide watch how he can get the team up for the next game I have no idea
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"As I said before, there's a deal of truth in that - although a lot of these players are his signings.
I think something like 9 or 10 wins from 23 shouldn't have been an unrealistic ambition, expectation even. That feels a long way off now. The 'we kept doing the same things in pre-season and kept getting the same results' quote is the one that keeps nagging away at me. What was the innovative approach we took instead? Whatever it was and whoever is in charge in the future, let's never do it again.'"
It's easy as an FC fan to laugh at your current plight but take the main playmaker and 2 hookers out of any side in SL and they'd struggle (just ask brian mcdermott and paul anderson) so it's not all down to chester IMO. You certainly have a bottom 4 squad so unless someone finds some players from somewhere then nothing much will change no matter who is coaching you
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| Rovers are in a dark place and it all seems desperate but get Campo and Lunt back hopefully things will take a turn for the better.
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| Seriously if Chester goes who would achieve anything with the side you had on the field today, the spine of your team is out along with your goal kicker, I personally would have thought you needed a couple of mongrel props & a striking back rower & your squad wouldn't have been far away barring injuries, your youth was needed to be strengthened the day you entered super league but has been ignored, we have some cracking youth teams in the town which your scouts never bothered to watch.
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| Well that was fun wasn't it boys & girls.
When I heard the teams I said that anything less than a convincing win should see CC given the bullet and I stand by that. Despite what others have put about squad strength Chester has stated on numerous occasions that he has the final say on player recruitment. He ultimately put this squad together.
I will cut Jake & MR some slack at this point, as for entirely different reasons I'm gonna assume you didn't witness today's performance. My reasons for now stating that he should go are thus: the coach's primary responsibility is to send a team out with tactics and motivation to do the job. Today neither was in evidence, save the 10 mins Blair spent in the bin. At least 10 didn't give a .
He's lost the dressing room and has neither the skill set nor the personality to turn this around. Time to move aside Chris, the job is too big for you.
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| Quote ="Paul T - HKR"Rovers are in a dark place and it all seems desperate but get Campo and Lunt back hopefully things will take a turn for the better.'"
Are we even sure Campese will be back? Mantellato too? Both very serious injuries they've suffered, Lunt can't string a good run of games together either.
IMO were missing Campeses mouth more than anything, we need someone Barking out orders as we don't have anyone doing it.
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| There's a find in Lawler. Was Rovers best player today.
Goes to show how well we played when a young kid playing out of position got my Mom.
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| This Chester's squad no one else's. He had the 're source to build it. We recruited ok last year with areas we clearly needed to strengthen this but.......a cluster f#ck occurs.
We have the worst back row pairing in the league. Horne and Clarkson are dire.
Our props are good just lack enough variety. We have no loose forward or full back.
Our tactics are pitiful. The coach has no charisma, control or long term plan.
Salter is another. If he's a superleague centre I'm the pope. Minns shows promise and gets dropped for that bucket carrier.
Sio is our best full back. He nearly won the game in the last 20 mins. He's starved of the ball on the wing....wasted, especially outside f#cking Salter.
A decent coach and we could make 8th. Chester stays and relegation is a possibility.
Campese and Lunt ain't gonna turn this mess around even if they stay fit the rest of the season. Chester is creating carnage and it worsens each week.
The pre season shocked me on how we had not changed.
Despite the gooses opinion our loaned half back and other individuals got us out of messes in the super 8s that and other teams capitulating.
Awful witless side to side nonsense with no game management today.
Chester's interview afterwards tells you all you need to know. Nice bloke never should have been given the job.
Watch the Trent Robinson video on sky.....a proper coach.
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| Any team with a decent structured play would have beaten the woeful wakey team by 20+. We didn't have any structure or play book. That should be drilled into the team during hours of practice but I don't think we do that.
We had a big lad like sio on the wing, he's great in the air, so we kick to Dixon, who although quick is no giant. We are just dumb with the worst 2nd row in the league. Horne kills the play time and again.
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| I was surprised today just how bad you have become, even given your injuries you looked in the main clueless. And listening to that interview Chester has mentally gone, he reminds me just how James Webster sounded with us just prior to his departure fron us last year. You should have beaten that Wakefield side out there today as we hardly created a great deal ourselves but you looked so disjointed it was ridiculous at times. From an outsider looking in you need a change in the coaching department pretty damn quick. From a Wakefield fans point of view i hope Chester stays as that us our best chance of avoiding the wooden spoon.
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| Is it all down to Chester? The BOD appointed him and Sandercock. If he should never have been given the job surely that's where the fault lies.
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"I was surprised today just how bad you have become, even given your injuries you looked in the main clueless. And listening to that interview Chester has mentally gone, he reminds me just how James Webster sounded with us just prior to his departure fron us last year. You should have beaten that Wakefield side out there today as we hardly created a great deal ourselves but you looked so disjointed it was ridiculous at times. From an outsider looking in you need a change in the coaching department pretty damn quick. From a Wakefield fans point of view i hope Chester stays as that us our best chance of avoiding the wooden spoon.'"
Good luck for the season. Smith got your team to dig in. They didn't know what to do for the last ten minutes but we were too dumb to take advantage.
The last tackle play in our own half was special......Horne at first man.......to Salter who runs in 2 arms around the ball....game over.
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| Quote ="Zook Ema's Hose"Is it all down to Chester? The BOD appointed him and Sandercock. If he should never have been given the job surely that's where the fault lies.'"
Yes they have a part to play. However he took the job and with it the responsibility.
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