My point is that next year you could possibly have 11 players not born in the UK. Can you name an all British 17 for the players you have for next year?

Well done on naming 3 stand offs and two loose forwards at scrum half.

Can I wait until I know 2011s squad or would you like to send me the list you have already?

I forgot the time stand offs weren't half backs, my bad. And 2 LF?

It should also be pointed out that Rovers intend to hand 5 full time contracts to members of this years under 18s side. We dont just recruit from abroad and are very much doing our bit for developing young British talent.

'English' or 'British born' is irrelevant in terms of the letter of the RFL's law. This isn't really the RFL's fault - they are only trying to stay on the right side of [iThe Law[/i. People and organizations generally respond to incentives (rather than appeals to their better nature) and the RFL have been unable provide sufficient, either in the form of carrot or stick, to achieve their aims in the short term. They've of necessity adopted a gradualist approach and they/we will get there gradually. Unless real incentives accelerate the process (an ever stronger Aus dollar or much bigger NRL salary cap, for example).

Saying that an English player could do the same job as Rhys Lovegrove ignores the crucial fact that he counts as club-trained. You may disapprove of that decision, but we have to deal with what is rather than what others might wish.

Mrs B. Your point about replacing overseas players, as they retire - British players will retire at the same rate and need fed-trained replacements, it doesn't really disadvantage Rovers if this scenario comes to pass. Age is a bigger factor than nationality in this regard.

I've read in the Red Red Robin chairman/coach's columns that JM's recruitment remit is to make the squad more youthful and British. And indeed, over the last two years only Clinton was neither and only Fozzard, among the Brits, was old (for a RL player). Even allowing for there not being much on the market, though, I have to admit that Bailey wouldn't be the most progressive signing.

That is the crucial point - and we have to acknowledge Rovers still have much progress to make.

The background of your fed-trained players is something of a red herring - unless your target is the governing body rather than an individual club. Even then, I'd ask - what else could they do?

which 5 are your best guess??? you'd have to think kristian bell and jordan cox would be 2 of them

Don't want to be pedantic but Ratu is Fijian

I'll take where a player is born over which country he picked out of the international hat

Very happy memories of Fiji from when I was a cadet.



Sorry, thread drift.

Fairy chuff



I guess your rules are everybit as 'off the cuff' as the RFL's

Fitzhenry didnt want to go anywhere Sweetheart it was well documented and anyone who saw him bawling his eyes out would know that.
Infact didn't we shift a grand total of 3 overseas players that season end and replace them with ............................ Brits and 1 AUSSIE?

Fair enough, but the point is that the overseas reduction framework of gradual reduction to 5 by 2011, communicated several years ago, addressed this. The fact that multiple exemptions could result in some clubs having [umore[/u overseas players at the end of the first franchise term than at the start, in some cases in double figures, makes a mockery of it. Just my opinion. My interpretation of what you are saying is that the original reduction to 5 framework was illegal. If so then it was a stupid thing for the RFL to communicate to start with.

It would be interesting if the RFL imposed a one point loss on the franchise bid for exceeding 5 non British born players.

But they can't they were the ones that changed the rules to it being 'were a player was trained'.
They then muddied the waters even more by throwing out the exemptions.
We now have a raft of players who are 'fed trained' when they are nothing of the kind.
Put it this way if Newton,Galea,Vella,Webster or Fisher were shown the door by HKR and taking into account that they are still going to be classed as fed trained no matter where they go do you think they will get picked up by another SL club?
We all know the answer to that question dont we.

One point docked for each non British player, thereby rewarding clubs who are participating in the spirit of the original principles.

Although FC would fall foul of this with just one (Manu) and therefore would drop to a B, so maybe it's not such a good idea.

if you took your black and White specs offand were honest you'd bs saying massively different, I'd say 90% of fc fans would take dobbo over long. Briers great as he mightve been is way past his best, sinfield is a loose and chase may be good on his day but is very inconsistant. I'll give you eastmond and tompkins. If all the sh's in sl were put up for an auction dobbo would be in the top pick slots along with tompkins, eastmond and myler.

Having only caught the last 15 minutes of Robins Night on KCFM it does appear the rumours regards Radford and Hall are wide of the mark.



( What is a players ambition and what are Rovers ambitions appear to be two different things

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I missed the last 15 Bertie, care to give us a run down my good man

1) In talks with council to have Marfleet Road traffic lights manned to ensure less traffic congestion before and particularly after games. Next season the camera's which control traffic down Preston road to be used to alleviate problems.

2) Buses which service C.P. leaving to early after the games ( Probably to avoid said traffic congestion) are to be consulted about leaving a little later. Bus (s) to be run via villages like Skirlaugh and those on route direct to C.P.

3) Many players (and agents) have been spoken to, and being spoken to, regarding many players ( only a few who fans pick up on) and this is almost on a daily basis. A few irons in the fire apart from those where rumours appear on message boards, but its a fine line between players wanting to come , for the right price, and fitting into the jigsaw, that the coach wants.

4) Current players who are OOC at the end of the season will not neccesarily leave the club. ( By intimation) Wheeldon has not signed for Wakey.

Thats about it mate.

He came across very well in the little I heard

And you lot say Rule can talk for an hour whilst saying nothing.

Did no one ask about the ground developments?

Don't know.

Didn't you

Gutted that I missed it. An hour discussing the traffic and giving no information on player movements. I'm looking forward to the upcoming musical Robins Night though. Might be next week