You really are obsessed with Tilse aren't you?

There is indeed a massive difference in comparing seventeen year old players and twenty year old players.

I'm not bored, I'm just trying to be boring enough to kill this thread from all the incredibly dull posters whilst building up my hack job Chinese (other brands of computer equipment are available) tablet's vocabulary before I Frisbee into the Huddersfield Narrow Canal.

Note to tourists, if you do wish to explore the Huddersfield Narrow Canal, I believe that passage from Lancashire to Yorkshire is only available on Tuesdays and perhaps Fridays. When coming to Yorkshire, I can whole heartedly recommend The Little Bridge wine bar in Slawit, where Tory will be your host. If you're into dogging, you'll need to take Slawit cars up to Scammonden, there are however Police cameras installed now-a-days and it's not as popular as once was.

Quote ="Mild Rover"Hull signed Briscoe at 17 for the 2008 season, same as us with Watts. According to this anyway: news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 215186.stm Our failing, IMO, is a bit of a loss of direction and bit of belt tightening since around 2012. Plus sometimes that's just sport.'" I think briscoe was already with Hull and this was him signing a pro contract. All irrelevant anyway. Thanks for taylor and watts and you're welcome to graeme horne

Quote ="Mild Rover"Hull signed Briscoe at 17 for the 2008 season, same as us with Watts. According to this anyway: news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 215186.stm Our failing, IMO, is a bit of a loss of direction and bit of belt tightening since around 2012. Plus sometimes that's just sport.'" I think briscoe was already with Hull and this was him signing a pro contract. All irrelevant anyway. Thanks for taylor and watts and you're welcome to graeme horne

indeed, it's not massively important where players come from.

But I still think I'm right - sources as diverse as Up the Cream and the Guardian's pre-2008 cup final profile imply that is the case too.

Basically, I vaguely recall in late 2007-ish, a poster from the West Riding saying that Hull and Rovers had each snaffled a promising teen from his area. Whenever Hull fans have sought to diminish Rovers (admittedly disappointing) record in this area by developing new definitions of a club product, Briscoe has been my go-to guy. I don't recall anybody saying he was at Hull at 15 before - usually the counter point is that he came from an amateur club, whereas Watts had been at Cas. Then I turn to Jordan Abdull. There probably is a way of defining club product that denies us Watts and allows you to 'keep' Briscoe and Abdull, but it'd be an unofficial, fairly lengthy and pretty transparent construct.

Licensing, eh? What a load of poop that turned out to be.

Can you really quote anything from the terrible up the cream

You may be right but it seems improbable that briscoe wasn't in some club's academy given he made his debut in pre season. fev lions to wembley in one season is some jump for a 17 year old

He was, he was at Hull, spoke to my mate who coached in the scholarship program and confirmed he was at Hull from 15, he was one of the top juniors so there is no way he wouldn't have been at a professional club.

As I stated by naming this thread. Yet more crap luck this season. Afraid that cpuld be his career over as well as his season.

I expect both our players to cop a ban as well even though Wigan got away with a dangerous throw against us the previous game.

If we manage it, surviving in SL might actually be the one redeeming factor after this torrid season.

Hudge tweeting that you will happy with the plans he has in place, wonder if he means signings, coach or both.

Massive recruitment for next year, a few seasons ago, Rovers were the best in the league at recruiting particularly from overseas, seems to have all gone downhill.

I'd like to hear the plan to stay in SL first

Fair point, what would you do if you were him in preparation for the middle 8's?

Get some loan players in for starters

We aren't interested in loan players...

What position and who?

God knows not my job let the people in the employment of the club earn there money

As an outsider I'd try and get a decent FB, 6 or BR.

Not sure who though, do you have any quota or non fed spots available?

Assuming our current back three crisis is going to resolve itself before the 8s, then an organising hb would be ideal. They're hard to find at the best of times, though. A Kolpak backrower, who can give us some much-needed strike and allows Blair to play stand-off might be more realistic. De-registering Campese gives us a non-fed spot, but not a full quota place - I think.

Jamie Soward? I reckon the Hardaker / Segeyaro deal might make him available immediately.

Does he have an EU passport? campese is on the non fed isn;t he due to his italian passport

Dane Chisholm has a French passport

Chisholm did just enough to warrant bringing him over last year, but not by much. Middle 8s will be tougher this year. He adds an extra body but not much more quality imo.

Going to take a few seasons to get this right, Mike Smith is a major factor of this and IMO is stealing a living from our club. He was the one dealing with these deals ie money and contract lengths. Same as what Mcrea did at Hull and look how long its taken them to resolve that.

I think most of us would be ok with it taking a few seasons if we could see progression. With the current way the league is small changes can make a big difference.

Getting the correct coach is vital and can't be rushed. having to change coach every 18 - 24 months isn't helping the club or players, we need some stability in the club like we had when Justin Morgan was in charge. All gone down hill since his departure and our signings.

Every club in every sport in the world knows that but knowing it and achieving it are 2 completely different things