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| Quote ="craig hkr"Letting Moss go looks a mistake now. If Wallis and Oakes are our wings for the 8s then they will be targeted .Shaw and Carney look unlikely to play and Dagger who could cover doesn't seem in Sheens plans?Oakes in particular has done well when called on but looked shaky yesterday?A quality centre would have been a better signng than T Carney for me? Is there still time to draft anyone in?'"
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| I’d be offering Wakey money for mason Caton Brown seems out of favour and we are definitely needing a decent winger at least
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| Quote ="Davetherobin"I’d be offering Wakey money for mason Caton Brown seems out of favour and we are definitely needing a decent winger at least'"
Agree with that, you can,t buy pure pace. he,s got loads. So did Moss but he,s gone.
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| There again, if we bought him I suppose we would have bought pure pace!
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| I gave up banging on about moss,a hat trick against the old enemy after waiting for his chance, a try against wakey after coming on 15 mins from the end,and his only other appearance was the home thrashing by castleford when he was top metre maker.Not good enough for a wonderful team like we are,well done tim.
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| When we signed Vai Vai we looked very healthy in the backs but Heff and Minns gone for who knows how long? Shaw and Carney unlikely to see much if any of remaining games.Salter getting a knock means the cover is getting bare.Moss would have been a good option to have. Suppose we will go with Blair and Tomkins as makeshift backs and the youngsters but it's far from ideal
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| You have a guaranteed 8 points with those home games so one win on the road and you'll be safe. salford and widnes are gash and will both finish below rovers in the middle 8's.
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| Salford have been but Koukash seems to have stepped in to try save them Hastings is a good signing for them him and lui in the half’s and told they have a few more coming in they get a good full back and they ant that bad side there pack is strong
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"You have a guaranteed 8 points with those home games so one win on the road and you'll be safe. salford and widnes are gash and will both finish below rovers in the middle 8's.'" it looks to be in my eyes it will be the strongest middle 8s so far,especially if leeds are in there,made it last year with a weaker team not particularly playing expansive rugby and the 4 home games are key but lose 1 and it still could be squeaky bum time as widnes and Salford on their day can do us they wont give up their status without a fight and 1 superleague team will be in the dreaded playoff maybe 2
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| Quote ="craig hkr"When we signed Vai Vai we looked very healthy in the backs but Heff and Minns gone for who knows how long? Shaw and Carney unlikely to see much if any of remaining games.Salter getting a knock means the cover is getting bare.Moss would have been a good option to have. Suppose we will go with Blair and Tomkins as makeshift backs and the youngsters but it's far from ideal'" things like this just highlight what a nerd minns was and how badly he let the club and supporters down for an hours giggle
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| Hard to argue with that? For all the things that led to him reaching that point when you break it down that's what's left
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| Looks like we will have a lot of players missing v Warrington but we have to go for the win. We still have a mathematical chance of top 8 and a mathematical chance of bottom 2 so although we won't risk injured players we can't rest anyone.
A week later the picture will be much clearer. Catalans will be safe and Salford unable to catch us if as expected the Dragons have beaten Salford in Perpignan.
If we go into the derby with nothing to play for in terms of league position then yes I think we should rest Lunt, McGuire, Masoe, Mulhern etc.
We have seen how important our key players are and much as I would like a win over Hull I would rather we give ourselves the best chance in the qualifiers.
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| Quote ="His Bobness"Looks like we will have a lot of players missing v Warrington but we have to go for the win. We still have a mathematical chance of top 8 and a mathematical chance of bottom 2 so although we won't risk injured players we can't rest anyone.
A week later the picture will be much clearer. Catalans will be safe and Salford unable to catch us if as expected the Dragons have beaten Salford in Perpignan.
If we go into the derby with nothing to play for in terms of league position then yes I think we should rest Lunt, McGuire, Masoe, Mulhern etc.
We have seen how important our key players are and much as I would like a win over Hull I would rather we give ourselves the best chance in the qualifiers.'"
League position won't be sorted until the final weekend. It us vital we finish 9th at the lowest. Firstly, to keep momentum and second, to avoid being the first SL club to play Toronto away wgen no doubt all the 50/50 decisions will go in favour of the home side. No thanks, that is one team I'd rather play at home. Same with Leeds.
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| Quote ="des lawson"I gave up banging on about moss,a hat trick against the old enemy after waiting for his chance, a try against wakey after coming on 15 mins from the end,and his only other appearance was the home thrashing by castleford when he was top metre maker.Not good enough for a wonderful team like we are,well done tim.'"
Surely if he was as good as you make out then either 1 of the remaining S.L teams would have offered him a contract, or the top 4 in the Championship for that matter. He was fast and could finish decently but that is about it talent wise. i could have scored the 3 tries at Newcastle they were on a plate.
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| Quote ="robinrovers10"Surely if he was as good as you make out then either 1 of the remaining S.L teams would have offered him a contract, or the top 4 in the Championship for that matter. He was fast and could finish decently but that is about it talent wise. i could have scored the 3 tries at Newcastle they were on a plate.
Think you need to take the blinkers off now and again.'"
I was surprised Cas didn't give him a chance before signing QLT? As for saying anyone could have scored those tries Salter and Blair have since proved otherwise.Carney also is too musclebound to do a lot of the diving finishes required nowadays. It was another Dixon situation imo and tbe buck stops with the Coach. You couldnt put him in above Quinlan at FB but he would be a shoe in for a wing spot now. If we'd have seen him in the team this last few game whilst we have been going forward well I'm certain we would have seen some great tries from him Good player imo but gone so it is what it is but for me I feel he wasn't given enough chance
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| Kieron moss caught the eye at full back for Bradford and wasn't given a long stretch of games due to quinlan being there ,moved to the wing and did ok in the championship , is he good enough for superleague? another 3inches taller and a stone or so op top and he may have been, a bit too lightweight for sheens liking I think ,still a decent player who may have found his level now
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| We get a weekend off after the Hull game so why would you rest players when they will be getting a fortnight off anyways. Get them playing, keep the momentum going as much as you can before the split. On a side note, a promoted team that finishes 10th or even 9th should really be rewarded with staying in the league. Not have to go through another set of fixtures to justify their placement. The last two seasons in a row the team that has finished bottom has not gone on to be relegated.
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| Quote ="robinrovers10"Surely if he was as good as you make out then either 1 of the remaining S.L teams would have offered him a contract, or the top 4 in the Championship for that matter. He was fast and could finish decently but that is about it talent wise. i could have scored the 3 tries at Newcastle they were on a plate.
Think you need to take the blinkers off now and again.'"
We need to be signing you if you could have scored the 3 tries against hull,considering our injury situation in the backs.Never mind me taking the blinkers off,you get your boots on.
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| They were walk ins for whatever reason Sheens doesn’t fancy him hence him been released in effect we all have different opinions but you have to trust the coach who knows a lot more than we do
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| That's true but like a lot of rapid wingers we have had in recent year we haven't put them away in space anywhere near enough.Heff and Vai Vai have the hands to put their wingers away. Goulding and Sio gave us glimpses but that was another centre that went tits up
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| Quote ="craig hkr"That's true but like a lot of rapid wingers we have had in recent year we haven't put them away in space anywhere near enough.Heff and Vai Vai have the hands to put their wingers away. Goulding and Sio gave us glimpses but that was another centre that went tits up'"
With Heff and Vai Vai we have two quality centres we were spoiled a bit with Sio and Mantallato Sio was absolute class and Josh for all his lack of speed scored a lot of tries kicked goals and brought the ball out well he made the most of his ability Oakes looks quality ( I don’t know what was wrong with him on Saturday) I’m not convinced by Shaw
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| Quote ="Gallanteer"League position won't be sorted until the final weekend. It us vital we finish 9th at the lowest. Firstly, to keep momentum and second, to avoid being the first SL club to play Toronto away wgen no doubt all the 50/50 decisions will go in favour of the home side. No thanks, that is one team I'd rather play at home. Same with Leeds.'"
I'd actually be quite surprised if Toronto play their home games in Toronto. I'd have thought they'd just agree to give them up and play every game at their opposition's ground (like they did in the Challenge Cup when they were given a home draw).
Yes they would be giving up home advantage but it definitely can't be in their advantage to be going backwards and forwards every week. Unless they plan to do a block of home games and then a block of away games which might be an option they're given.
If I've already missed any statement about how they intend to play their middle 8s games then my bad!
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| Quote ="Gallanteer"League position won't be sorted until the final weekend. It us vital we finish 9th at the lowest. Firstly, to keep momentum and second, to avoid being the first SL club to play Toronto away wgen no doubt all the 50/50 decisions will go in favour of the home side. No thanks, that is one team I'd rather play at home. Same with Leeds.'"
Fair enough .
Just out of interest why would we be the first club to play Toronto away? Last year we were in their position (top of championship) and we played the 10th placed SL team (Catalans) in week 6.
Personally I would rather play the (on paper) easiest teams at home . That would give a great chance of 8 points and only one away win needed. If we finish 9th and play Leeds at home (week 2 if the same as 2017) and lose, the jitters would really start and it all gets so difficult. Lose to them away and indeed Toronto away and we'd still get 5 wins beating Featherstone away and home games against Salford, Widnes, Toulouse and London. (obviously the championship teams could change). I actually prefer the fixtures for the 10th club as things stand
And BTW in round 22 if we lose to Warrington and Leeds beat Widnes at home our league position will indeed be sorted before the final weekend provided Salford lose in France. We'd be 10th no matter what with those results.
I'm sure ATEOTD neither of us will care how we stay up provided we do.
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| You don't have to pay a fee for MCB you can have him for nowt, you'll have to look sharp though he's turned down a new contract with us unfortunately for 1st team football, rumour has it he's off to Salford.
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| It's very hard to give advice ,but I will. Last year Catalans entered the middle eights on a long run of defeats . Our performances remained very poor and we were very lucky to escape. You are on a good run and despite your potential fixtures I think you will win 5 of the matches. All in all resting players will lead to heavy losses and could risk the ruin of your current form .You have been very unlucky that all your rivals except Leeds are playing well .
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