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| Quote ="jeffvickers"4000 tops'"
You can believe that rubbish if you want to but its totally fabricated....false news.
In a couple of weeks I'm sure you can talk to some returning visiting Hull KR fans on their return from Toronto...they will certainly verify the attendance figure given at the game....or will you allow your blind prejudice to even override the testimony of your fellow Hull KR fans?????....the proof is in the pudding.
Just ask them when they return and they will verify what I have said is certainly true and correct...a gentleman would then apologize.
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| Quote ="Canoeman"You can believe that rubbish if you want to but its totally fabricated....false news.
In a couple of weeks I'm sure you can talk to some returning visiting Hull KR fans on their return from Toronto...they will certainly verify the attendance figure given at the game....or will you allow your blind prejudice to even override the testimony of your fellow Hull KR fans?????....the proof is in the pudding.
Just ask them when they return and they will verify what I have said is certainly true and correct...a gentleman would then apologize.'"
And the Toronto chairman would do well to pipe down about about bias towards SL clubs just because all 8 clubs have be treat equally in terms of fixtures. It's not our fault your club is based in another continent.
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| Quote ="Gallanteer"And the Toronto chairman would do well to pipe down about about bias towards SL clubs just because all 8 clubs have be treat equally in terms of fixtures. It's not our fault your club is based in another continent.'"
Over here we call it 'flexibility' and working with others in a 'positive' manner to achieve a mutually beneficial result to the benefit of all parties involved...the game needs to learn to be able to adapt....cutting to the chase, the future of Rugby League actually depends on this very concept and ability (which seems to be lacking for many, caught up in old grudges and not being able to see beyond the end of their nose).
Once again, Toronto will lead and show the way forward.
"Run With The Pack!"
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| Quote ="Canoeman"Over here we call it 'flexibility' and working with others in a 'positive' manner to achieve a mutually beneficial result to the benefit of all parties involved...the game needs to learn to be able to adapt....cutting to the chase, the future of Rugby League actually depends on this very concept and ability (which seems to be lacking for many, caught up in old grudges and not being able to see beyond the end of their nose).
Once again, Toronto will lead and show the way forward.
"Run With The Pack!"'"
You do understand the word mutually don’t you? If you can’t hack it travelling every other week you may get be better starting your own league mate.
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| Quote ="Dudley"You do understand the word mutually don’t you? If you can’t hack it travelling every other week you may get be better starting your own league mate.'"
We do understand 'mutually' far more than any other club.. We travel more than any other team but that is part of our nature and setup so we don't mind, it is what it is. We have started our own league...haven't you figured that out yet?
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| Quote ="Canoeman"We do understand 'mutually' far more than any other club.. We travel more than any other team but that is part of our nature and setup so we don't mind, it is what it is. We have started our own league...haven't you figured that out yet?
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If you don’t mind why are you moaning about not getting your own way with the distribution of home and away fixtures?
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| Quote ="Dudley"If you don’t mind why are you moaning about not getting your own way with the distribution of home and away fixtures?'"
No one is moaning about anything...a little consideration would have been nice but that is the way it seems to be in Rugby League...always erecting self created obstacles to our progress...we will overcome them shortly to the surprise of all (as we have always done in the past).
Time to play...the schedule is what it is...no excuses on this end.
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| Quote ="Canoeman"Over here we call it 'flexibility' and working with others in a 'positive' manner to achieve a mutually beneficial result to the benefit of all parties involved...the game needs to learn to be able to adapt....cutting to the chase, the future of Rugby League actually depends on this very concept and ability (which seems to be lacking for many, caught up in old grudges and not being able to see beyond the end of their nose).
Once again, Toronto will lead and show the way forward.
"Run With The Pack!"'"
Flexibility and politeness etc is all well and good but equality, especially in sport, is paramount. Allowing Toronto to play all their games in a block is treating Toronto in an unequal manner. It is not only perceived to give them an advantage but also disrupts the ability to generate a stable fixture list for the rest. Your chairman recently used the fixture list to moan about keeping them out of SL. That's YOUR chairman, no one else's chairman, than moaned.
Also, your stadium might have been good so far, but considering Toronto are meant to be showing the rest of us the way (according to you), from what I've seen it looks like a pitch in a park somewhere with a couple of stands put up on either side. Hardly a gleaming example of a fantastic SL stadium. I suppose this may change if they get promoted.
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| Quote ="Gallanteer"Flexibility and politeness etc is all well and good but equality, especially in sport, is paramount. Allowing Toronto to play all their games in a block is treating Toronto in an unequal manner. It is not only perceived to give them an advantage but also disrupts the ability to generate a stable fixture list for the rest. Your chairman recently used the fixture list to moan about keeping them out of SL. That's YOUR chairman, no one else's chairman, than moaned.
Also, your stadium might have been good so far, but considering Toronto are meant to be showing the rest of us the way (according to you), from what I've seen it looks like a pitch in a park somewhere with a couple of stands put up on either side. Hardly a gleaming example of a fantastic SL stadium. I suppose this may change if they get promoted.'"
We are new, just trying to work things out for the first time and asking for a wee bit of co operation is all...I guess thats asking too much.
Nothing wrong with the stadium...although it is dated and could use some enhancements (which has begun). its a work in progress....but its what goes on in the stadium field that really matters now isn't it?
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| Quote ="Canoeman"We are new, just trying to work things out for the first time and asking for a wee bit of co operation is all...I guess thats asking too much.
Nothing wrong with the stadium...although it is dated and could use some enhancements (which has begun). its a work in progress....but its what goes on in the stadium field that really matters now isn't it?'"
To a certain extent but supporter comfort is essential if you want to attract more supporters.
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| Quote ="LifeLongHKRFan"To a certain extent but supporter comfort is essential if you want to attract more supporters.'"
Lamport Stadium is owned by the city of Toronto. It's been around for a while. Not the fanciest stadium in the world, but it's the ideal venue for this city and attracts supporters for different reasons than personal comfort. It's very close to downtown and served by two streetcar (tram) routes and a suburban train station. No need to drive, so you can enjoy the craft beer garden. The atmosphere is easygoing and the staff are extremely pleasant and helpful. There are five big pubs close by. It's a short walk to BMO Field where Toronto FC and the Toronto Argos (CFL) play.
Many of the supporters are younger adults and a lot of families come out.
Yes, the VIP section is just a couple of tents and we'd get wet if it rained, but so far neither of those issues have bothered the fans.
Early last year, the city replaced the playing surface and upgraded it to 4G artificial turf. Any future renovations would have to be worked out with the city ... let's see where that goes.
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| Quote ="Canoeman"We are new, just trying to work things out for the first time and asking for a wee bit of co operation is all...I guess thats asking too much.
Nothing wrong with the stadium...although it is dated and could use some enhancements (which has begun). its a work in progress....but its what goes on in the stadium field that really matters now isn't it?'"
How about a bit of co-operation with visas.???
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| Quote ="LifeLongHKRFan"To a certain extent but supporter comfort is essential if you want to attract more supporters.'"
I have heard no complaints except about the womens washrooms last year and this seems to have been resolved. Interestingly, I have heard that 'corporate facilities must be provided for visiting SL teams and Lamport isn't adequate " though...this is troubling. Silly...let the fat cats take what is provided, it is more than adequate...what do you think we are running over here, some type of outdated class system, get with the program...not on!
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| Quote ="des lawson"How about a bit of co-operation with visas.???'"
If we gave visiting teams any more of a hand with the Visas we would need a prosthesis!
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| Looking at Toronto's game versus Halifax I'm tempted by the 10 start Fax receive. Bookies also have Toronto clear of Salford as 3rd Favs which I think is daft? Il nail my colours straight to the mast. I hope TWP lose every game and the whole concept goes back to whatever dark corner of a mad mind it came from.
Run with the Fax
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| Quote ="craig hkr"Looking at Toronto's game versus Halifax I'm tempted by the 10 start Fax receive. Bookies also have Toronto clear of Salford as 3rd Favs which I think is daft? Il nail my colours straight to the mast. I hope TWP lose every game and the whole concept goes back to whatever dark corner of a mad mind it came from.
Run with the Fax'"
Stop sitting on the fence Craig
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| Quote ="craig hkr"Looking at Toronto's game versus Halifax I'm tempted by the 10 start Fax receive. Bookies also have Toronto clear of Salford as 3rd Favs which I think is daft? Il nail my colours straight to the mast. I hope TWP lose every game and the whole concept goes back to whatever dark corner of a mad mind it came from.
Run with the Fax'"
If Toronto get promoted that's fine (as long as it isn't at our expense of course).
I just expect them have the same rules applied to them as all the other teams. To me they're just another team and don't care where they happen to call home.
Back on track, I think we know what Toronto might be like, Toulouse are the away game that might be more dangerous, and we're not talking about them.
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| Quote ="Gallanteer"If Toronto get promoted that's fine (as long as it isn't at our expense of course).
I just expect them have the same rules applied to them as all the other teams. To me they're just another team and don't care where they happen to call home.
Back on track, I think we know what Toronto might be like, Toulouse are the away game that might be more dangerous, and we're not talking about them.'"
But the rules have been different for Toronto from the start...and not in a good way. An example would be no central funding whatsoever and the expense, paid for by Toronto for flights, rooms, etc. You are trying to have your cake and eat it too...I don't blame you. And I don't know about them being just the same as other teams, seems to be alot of anti Toronto bias floating around these days...just stating the facts.
Toulouse plays a wide open game and if they get in the groove I honestly feel they could literally beat anyone, even Toronto. The trick is to disrupt their flow immediately....or points will be racked up against you quickly...SL team or not.
I would worry more about Toronto though...if a hungry wolf is at the tent flap in the deep bush you should give him your full attention... shouldn't be worrying about the porcupine behind the tree by the fire.
Open that tent door and let us in......well we all know how that one plays out.
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| All 4 Championship sides are capable enough. Leigh and Fev wouldn't have been out of their depth either.Toulose and London play a fairly open game from what I've seen and last middle 8s I thought London's back 5 were probably the slickest unit in the comp?Yes we have been on an upward curve last month or so and the team looks strong but im still nervous as a fan and a win on Friday would make me a whole lot more confident
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"Stop sitting on the fence Craig'"
Sick of hearing about Toronto.lunatic idea. Not surprised it's caught a Chorley Jean/ Canoe multiple.Dont converse with it
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| Quote ="craig hkr"All 4 Championship sides are capable enough. Leigh and Fev wouldn't have been out of their depth either.Toulose and London play a fairly open game from what I've seen and last middle 8s I thought London's back 5 were probably the slickest unit in the comp?Yes we have been on an upward curve last month or so and the team looks strong but im still nervous as a fan and a win on Friday would make me a whole lot more confident'"
Having been here bedore every year, I just hope we can replicate 2015. The big difference between 2016 and now is that in '16 we couldn't close out games. However, we are still fragile if we lose key players. We do have depth but sone of them are weak (Marsh and Lee).
Hopefully J Carney and Vaivai will be ready again and maybe Lawler. I think the combo of Hall and Crooks on one side and Vaivai and Carney on the other is quite potent. Atkin and Mags of course and Lunt with Lawler as an interchange. That's where T Carney comes in. If Lawler not fit, Atkin as Lunt interchange and T Carney and Mags at halfback. We've plenty of decent forwards at the moment even if our strongest weapon is suspended for the first game.
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| Quote ="craig hkr"Sick of hearing about Toronto.lunatic idea. Not surprised it's caught a Chorley Jean/ Canoe multiple.Dont converse with it'"
1. Welding glasses on. CHECK
2. Earplugs in. CHECK
3. Extra wide tinfoil hat on. CHECK
4. Closed mind. CHECK
Okay, looks like I'm ready for the playoffs.
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| I'm a fax fan. I've backed KR at 3/1 to come top.
How on earth the bookies have Leeds at around 6/5???
They are in for a massive shock. Believe me.
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| Quote ="jeffvickers"I'm a fax fan. I've backed KR at 3/1 to come top.
How on earth the bookies have Leeds at around 6/5???
They are in for a massive shock. Believe me.'"
Thanks for that vote of confidence.
I hope Fax pick up a win or two, if not more (just not against us). I think Widnes and Leeds are there for the taking at the moment. I also think Toronto might choke. Rowley has previous in this area.
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| Quote ="jeffvickers"I'm a fax fan. I've backed KR at 3/1 to come top.
How on earth the bookies have Leeds at around 6/5???
They are in for a massive shock. Believe me.'"
Cheers Jeff,
I can understand why Leeds are favourites when you look at their squad and their past performances over the longer term, but when you break down their recent form I'm sure there will be some squeaky bums in the Leeds camp.
We know from experience that the Championship clubs pose a threat and if teams like Fax get themselves into the game, they are very hard to shake off. If Scruton hadn't crashed over with 5 minutes left in the qualifier game last year we would have found that out the hard way!
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