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| Quote ="Dave K."Challenge cup final or top 8?'"
Cup final no danger,whoever finishes 7th or 8th needs a miracle.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Challenge cup final or top 8?'"
Neither (fingers crossed) that would be fantastic
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| Quote ="Legends and Icons"Neither (fingers crossed) that would be fantastic'"
It's nice to still have the choice though would you not agree?
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| Quote ="SirStan"It's nice to still have the choice though would you not agree?'"
Touché Stanley !!!!
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| Quote ="deslawson"Cup final no danger,whoever finishes 7th or 8th needs a miracle.'"
I probably agree Des, although it would be a disaster for any club to not get promoted back to SL, would really set a club back a couple of years.
Recruitment will also be harder as players might not sign or choose other clubs rather than a middle 8 club.
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| Tomorrow's game will be huge in the context of our top 8 ambitions with us resting a few and Salford having more or less a fresh squad to pick from plus the Tim sheens affect it could be a hard game for us
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| If I had a choice, I'd certainly take reaching the final of the cc over top 8. It takes a fair old leap of imagination to see us beating Leeds or Saints in a final. But even slim chances of silverware come around infrequently for those outside the handful of perennial trophy winners.
8th would be a relief, but hardly a shot at glory. And Rovers would most likely still be in SL for 2016 - though the risk is bigger than most people think, imo.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"If I had a choice, I'd certainly take reaching the final of the cc over top 8. It takes a fair old leap of imagination to see us beating Leeds or Saints in a final. But even slim chances of silverware come around infrequently for those outside the handful of perennial trophy winners.
8th would be a relief, but hardly a shot at glory. And Rovers would most likely still be in SL for 2016 - though the risk is bigger than most people think, imo.'"
Going off if buts and maybe's but could you imagine having a challenge cup final chucked in amongst fighting for our survival in super league? I think we need to reach top 8 because if we don't and we do beat warrington it's going to make the final a whole lot harder
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| Quote ="Dave K."I probably agree Des, although it would be a disaster for any club to not get promoted back to SL, would really set a club back a couple of years.
Recruitment will also be harder as players might not sign or choose other clubs rather than a middle 8 club.'"
I don't think their is much danger of KR going down even if we finish in the bottom 4.
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| Quote ="DuaneDibbley"I don't think their is much danger of KR going down even if we finish in the bottom 4.'"
Me neither, I reckon if it stays as it is, you and Salford will comfy finish top 2, widnes will be ok also if they keep Brown fit.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Me neither, I reckon if it stays as it is, you and Salford will comfy finish top 2, widnes will be ok also if they keep Brown fit.'"
Leigh looked a handful for 60 minutes but not sure they can keep up the same intensity over 7 games.
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| Quote ="DuaneDibbley"Leigh looked a handful for 60 minutes but not sure they can keep up the same intensity over 7 games.'"
Why does everyone keep saying this? They won't need to keep it up over 7 games. 3 games will be against championship opposition.
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| Quote ="roversmad"Why does everyone keep saying this? They won't need to keep it up over 7 games. 3 games will be against championship opposition.[/quo
3 games against championship opposition will not get them promoted.
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| Quote ="DuaneDibbley"
So you agree, they don't need to keep the intensity for 7 games.
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| Quote ="roversmad"
They still have to beat the other top 3 championship sides.
Slightly similar to finishing 5th in the SL. Still got 7 tough games
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| Heard from a good source that it is Saturday at Leeds for your game.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Heard from a good source that it is Saturday at Leeds for your game.'"
I assumed we'd be the Friday as the prime slot for TV would be Sat and the other game is the 'bigger' game. But it was pointed out that the Beeb are making a big thing out of it being a groundbreaking Friday night slot so that might push ours to the Sat.
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| Quote ="barham red"I assumed we'd be the Friday as the prime slot for TV would be Sat and the other game is the 'bigger' game. But it was pointed out that the Beeb are making a big thing out of it being a groundbreaking Friday night slot so that might push ours to the Sat.'"
I'm 99% sure that this is correct, as you say would have thought that to be the case, but good news for you lot.
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The word you're looking for is celebrating
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The word you're looking for is celebrating
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| Early kick off is perfect, back home, and straight to Humber Street.
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| Quote ="barham red"The word you're looking for is celebrating'"
Hopefully I will be.
Could be a good day for Rovers fans, rugby, Humber st sesh then the boxing.
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| Quote ="Oafy"Going off if buts and maybe's but could you imagine having a challenge cup final chucked in amongst fighting for our survival in super league? I think we need to reach top 8 because if we don't and we do beat warrington it's going to make the final a whole lot harder'"
It'd definitely be better to make the 8 than not, but the price of that would be losing the semi, the way I read Dave K's hypothetical.
It could be interpreted as you could guarantee one and still have a shot at the other. I'd still go for winning the semi and taking our chances in the league though. There are two chances to avoid relegation and only one to win the cup.
Variation on the theme - would you, hypothetically, take a Challenge Cup win, if the price were relegation?
It's not an easy choice, but I would. You can always get promoted again, whereas a cup win is forever. And under the current system, it wouldn't necessarily completely destroy the the club's infrastructure.
On the other hand, it'd do a fair bit of damage, and while promotion is possible, it's not like 1 up, 1 down, so I think a lot might disagree with me.
In the real world, it'll most likely be that neither happens - I'm just curious as to how people weigh it.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"It'd definitely be better to make the 8 than not, but the price of that would be losing the semi, the way I read Dave K's hypothetical.
It could be interpreted as you could guarantee one and still have a shot at the other. I'd still go for winning the semi and taking our chances in the league though. There are two chances to avoid relegation and only one to win the cup.
Variation on the theme - would you, hypothetically, take a Challenge Cup win, if the price were relegation?
It's not an easy choice, but I would. You can always get promoted again, whereas a cup win is forever. And under the current system, it wouldn't necessarily completely destroy the the club's infrastructure.
On the other hand, it'd do a fair bit of damage, and while promotion is possible, it's not like 1 up, 1 down, so I think a lot might disagree with me.
In the real world, it'll most likely be that neither happens - I'm just curious as to how people weigh it.'"
relegation would be a disaster for either Hull club. Firstly, you immediately lose £600k off your salary cap meaning you have to lose your best players to balance the books, you get a massive chunk less of sky money to add to (likely) greatly reduced crowds and then the final nail in the coffin would be that your nearest and dearest (enemy) would get the pick of the junior talent in the area.
It would be tough to juggle a wembley final and playing in the middle 8's IMO for either Hull club, neither of whom are in particularly great form
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg" neither of whom are in particularly great form'"
I agree with most of what you said except the part about not being in good form, beating Widnes then Wire then Cats and last night Salford would qualify most teams to be 'in good form' I can understand FCs form when put into context as you have had a double header with Leeds, if you're talking about quality of play, Rovers defensive frailties are all too aparent, but their backs are outstanding, but FC is the opposite, with good defence and poor attack, ask any Rovers fan which way round they prefer and you will find a pretty comprehensive answer, Rovers have been prone to losing daft games ala Wakey but can beat anyone as only the Rhino's and Cas have beaten us twice, our style of play will always give you a fighting chance against ANYONE, but FC's inabillity to score against the better teams finds them out, that's why Rovers get spanked one week and pull off a good win the next, but for two seasons now FC keep ruing narrow losses.
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