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| TBF gentle would say that as he has all the tools available to achieve top 2 ambition and the pressure will really be on him, I find him really arrogant but this may be due to my rovers bias ,as for sandy I was in all honesty with the goose and thinking wrong geezer but you only miss something once it's gone and our attack is very entertaining, we all must remember tho there is a human element to all this and the local media and mudslinging is hard to shake, if you look at the terrible case of Brett seymore you understand that real people have real issues and it hurts. It is hopeful we as a club who now finds itself not awash with cash can be a real people and feisty club who enjoys the fight (remember survival season) the ground is now looking vibrant and cool , we as fans complete it on match day with our chants, let's get behind sandy and enjoy.
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| Quote ="gingerspice"To be fair he is one of the better ones that come on here'"
Thanks ginge.
I reserve the right to put a counter argument especially when it concerns Hull FC, I will also praise Rovers when it's due (as I did last night).
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Thanks ginge.
I reserve the right to put a counter argument especially when it concerns Hull FC, I will also praise Rovers when it's due (as I did last night).'"
I know that ano weve had little spats many moons ago but ur ok for an fc fan that is lol
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| Quote ="gingerspice"I know that ano weve had little spats many moons ago but ur ok
for an fc fan that is lol'"
I've said before ginge, you are my second favourite Rovers fan after John Prescott.
You don't take things too seriously whch a lot of others could take note of.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"I've said before ginge, you are my second favourite Rovers fan after John Prescott.
You don't take things too seriously whch a lot of others could take note of.'"
I used to but not anymore however i will stick up for my club and wat i feel is right and cheers for that john prescott ha ha silly sod
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| Quote ="bishops finger"Theres nothing wrong with that interview. He WANTS to make Hull a top 2 side. Id be disappointed if CS didn't want to make Rovers a top 2 side as well.'"
Well quite. Zod fail
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| Quote ="General Zod."The mantle of the "Australian Richard Agar" is more apt for Gentle with his pathetic try scoring rate and his post-match interviews where the only reason for a loss is his team not playing well etc. when in actual fact he is an average coach with an average team.'"
Isn't that why most teams lose? Because their team didn't play well? I don't get how that is arrogance?
Quote ="General Zod."Gentle has had a fairer run than most with injuries yet you're the 3rd from bottom in the try scoring chart where as Sandercock's team is fourth highest despite him having worse luck with injuries and worse decisions than any other coach in the competition.'"
Fair run? Our captain was injured before the season started. Our half back had been suffering with depression. Our other halfback has missed have the season with the effects of concussion. Our goal kicker has been out for the majority of the season. Fairer run than most?
It's hard to string a decent attack together with makeshift halfbacks. Hopefully that's sorted now.
Quote ="General Zod."The chickens are starting to come home to roost now and Sandercock is being proven as a superb attacking coach, a developer of players whilst Gentle is nothing more than a decent defensive coach who lacks the attacking ideas to ever lead any team to a top-four position despite the HDM propaganda machine saying otherwise.'"
Hang on. Is defence not important? Again, we've not had our halfbacks so the attack was always going to suffer. We've got the players we want now and it will hopefully take time to gel.
As for developing players, what international potential is there for any of the Rovers youngsters? Because we've got a couple of stars emerging in our wing/centre partnership.
Quote ="General Zod."Gentle is a fraud.'"
As for all your "he's arrogant and never gives credit to the opposition" lark, is that really true? Or are you just blocking out these parts so you can have a reason to moan? He often says the opposition were the better team, or that we didn't deserve the victory.
Sandercock on the other hand nearly always looks to blame the officials.
Against Cas, he blamed the penalty count.
Against Hudds, he attacked Alibert's performance.
Against Wigan, it was because of the Easter weekend.
Against Bradford, it was because of the weather conditions not suiting them.
Against us, it was a "tragedy".
Always an excuse. Even in a lot of the games you've won, he's blamed the referee for you not winning by more.
So where's all this credit to the opposition from your non-arrogant coach? Or is it one rule for one and one for the other?
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| Quote ="General Zod."Sandercock had the worst luck of any coach in the whole of Super League this season but he never once failed to give credit to the opposition when his team got beat.'"
I'd say Saint's have had worse luck with injuries this season then you & every team suffers from poor ref decisions at some time or another.
Quote ="General Zod."Gentle acts like he's the greatest coach on the planet when in actual fact his team couldn't attack a ballon with sewing pin.'"
How does he think this? I've never seen anything to suggest it.
Quote ="General Zod."His brand of rugby league is crap and he should learn to accept that his team loses games because he's a very average coach of a very average team.'"
I don't care what brand of rugby the team play I'd rather see them win a low scoring game then lose a high scoring game.
1 final point say you finish 1 place above us in the league but we make it to Wembley, maybe even win, who would you say has had the better season?
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"Isn't that why most teams lose? Because their team didn't play well? I don't get how that is arrogance?
Fair run? Our captain was injured before the season started. Our half back had been suffering with depression. Our other halfback has missed have the season with the effects of concussion. Our goal kicker has been out for the majority of the season. Fairer run than most?
It's hard to string a decent attack together with makeshift halfbacks. Hopefully that's sorted now.
Hang on. Is defence not important? Again, we've not had our halfbacks so the attack was always going to suffer. We've got the players we want now and it will hopefully take time to gel.
As for developing players, what international potential is there for any of the Rovers youngsters? Because we've got a couple of stars emerging in our wing/centre partnership.
As for all your "he's arrogant and never gives credit to the opposition" lark, is that really true? Or are you just blocking out these parts so you can have a reason to moan? He often says the opposition were the better team, or that we didn't deserve the victory.
Sandercock on the other hand nearly always looks to blame the officials.
Against Cas, he blamed the penalty count.
Against Hudds, he attacked Alibert's performance.
Against Wigan, it was because of the Easter weekend.
Against Bradford, it was because of the weather conditions not suiting them.
Against us, it was a "tragedy".
Always an excuse. Even in a lot of the games you've won, he's blamed the referee for you not winning by more.
So where's all this credit to the opposition from your non-arrogant coach? Or is it one rule for one and one for the other?'"
to be honest you have just picked out parts of what he said to suit your argument he gave credit to Bradford for playing the conditions better he said wigan were white hot and we couldn't compete they were that good and he complimented Huddersfield as well
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"to be honest you have just picked out parts of what he said to suit your argument he gave credit to Bradford for playing the conditions better he said wigan were white hot and we couldn't compete they were that good and he complimented Huddersfield as well'"
I'm using the General Zod form of argument to show how contradictory he's being in his assessment of both coaches.
I think Sandercock is doing very well with the hand he's been dealt, but needs to learn to avoid blaming others for his side's defeats (something Rovers fans have commented on also). Defence has been a major issue for a while as well.
I really don't understand the Gentle arrogance comments at all. He's arrogant for saying his team lost because they didn't play well? I don't understand that at all. I'd say it's more arrogant to say your team lost because of the ref/weather/Easter. You can give credit all you like to the opposition, but you're not exactly complimenting them by saying your have won if it wasn't for the refs decisions!
I just think the whole thread is a needless d*ck-measuring competition started by a fan with an inferiority complex. Both coaches have pros and cons.
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| Quote ="General Zod."Sandercock had the worst luck of any coach in the whole of Super League this season but he never once failed to give credit to the opposition when his team got beat.
Gentle acts like he's the greatest coach on the planet when in actual fact his team couldn't attack a ballon with sewing pin.
His brand of rugby league is crap and he should learn to accept that his team loses games because he's a very average coach of a very average team.'"
sandy's "luck" has been nowhere near as bad as brian mcdermot's and he spends so much time whining about refs when you lose that he doesn't have time to say much about the opposition
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| Quote ="gingerspice"Cas was a given game if u don't have the right attitude u don't win and didn't gentle say u play rubbish against lower teams I'd say u was screwed then paper or not
and u won't be in the cup for long'"
How did rovers do at cas? Or Salford for that matter?
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"How did rovers do at cas? Or Salford for that matter?'"
Pretty crap to be honest but then we haven't got a coach spouting drivel about his team are gonna be doing this and that all the time, gentle getting found out now a lot of FC fans said rovers were bottom of super league standard not doing bad for a poor team are we
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"How did rovers do at cas? Or Salford for that matter?'"
Not too good. How did Hull do at Catalan?
Numbskull.
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| Quote ="roversmad"Not too good. How did Hull do at Catalan?
Numbskull.'"
Not too good dikweed.
How did rovers do at home to leeds?
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Not too good dikweed.
How did rovers do at home to leeds?'"
How did hull do at the kc against KR and also widnes away mmmmm
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| Who can pi$$ furthest, the loser will claim unfair wind assistance, no doubt.
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| Quote ="gingerspice"Pretty crap to be honest but then we haven't got a coach spouting drivel about his team are gonna be doing this and that all the time, gentle getting found out now a lot of FC fans said rovers were bottom of super league standard not doing bad for a poor team are we'"
Just out of interest what exactly has Gentle said we will be doing?
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| Quote ="K-Diddy"Just out of interest what exactly has Gentle said we will be doing?'"
Your a top four side and your gonna be fitter faster stronger think he's arrogant and is disrespectful to especially lower teams yet you do so bad against them
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| Quote ="K-Diddy"Just out of interest what exactly has Gentle said we will be doing?'"
you do realise that F90 will be along in 10 mins to post his favorite extract from the HDM about aiming for top and and claiming it actually says were promised to be top 4 now, dont you?
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| Quote ="K-Diddy"Just out of interest what exactly has Gentle said we will be doing?'"
Oh and that within two to three years of him taking over u WILL be a top two side guess u can't wait for next season for all the hype again.
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| Let's wait til the business end of the season and then judge our respective coaches. knee jerk reactions aplenty on here.
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| I don't remember him saying that we ARE a top 4 team or that in 2-3 years we WILL be a top 2 team, just that that's what we aim to be. I don't see that as arrogance, ambitious but not arrogance. FWIW I think Sandy whines way to much but I'm pretty sure if he coached Hull I wouldn't think so.
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| k-diddy give sandercock some slack, yes i know your a dull fan but sandercock cannot win in this city, he stays off the media due to him making himself look foolish, and he tries to do more on the playing side and not on the media side.. yet you all go and moan again at him, anyway how did hull get on at weekend did they win?
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| Quote ="rebelrobin"k-diddy give sandercock some slack, yes i know your a dull fan but sandercock cannot win in this city, he stays off the media due to him making himself look foolish, and he tries to do more on the playing side and not on the media side.. yet you all go and moan again at him, anyway how did hull get on at weekend did they win?'"
Its part and parcel of both clubs fans to have a go at the oppositions coach, nowt will change.
Oh and we lost, earth shattering as that is, by 2 points.
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