hes not though thats a myth hes involved in a couple and he costs us a couple

Hence why I said more often then not.

so whats your point

Because you've implied that I said he's involved in every try and then gone on to say he's involved in a couple

It's easy to call for players to be dropped without offering any kind of alternative. I'm glad you're not the coach.
You can't make a decision in isolation.
Fwiw he is involved in more or less every try we score down our left edge.

Yes this exactly

the point i was making is yes he is involved in a few of our tries but his terrible defence cancels out anything good he does he cost us the salford game nearly cost us tonights game was crap against bradford made mistakes against london

I agree with you on the defence, but I'd say hall was just as bad in that department tonight, if not worse!

we will just keep playing a player whos costing us 3 tries a game then shall we and who cant carry a ball and if you were the coach it wouldnt matter how badly you played you wouldnt get dropped in case it hurt your feelings get a grip

i agree he was as bad but he wont be playing centre on friday after tonight you know who hull will be targeting

Hull haven't even got a player that can kick I'd say we're pretty safe in the high bomb department

The best 2 players by a mile were burns and Dobson, and has for Eden this guy can play he just needs to learn not to try to play at 100 miles an hour and concentrate,if he does that he will be ok bring on Friday

How did he cost us 3 tries?
I will give you one, the failure to take the bomb in the second half where Clarke finished it off.

Did he play that badly?
Or did he drop 1 kick and misjudge one pretty good bomb in a swirling wind?
You're yet to offer a solution to what you would do if Eden was dropped.
And no, I wouldn't drop players on the bad of 1 below par game, especially not someone who is our only natural player of such a pivotal position.

i never said in this game it was more of general comment he always seems to make mistakes that cost tries

firstly its not his first bad game he cost us the game against salford and as for an alternative i would play hodgson at full back eden needs a kick up the ar$e

Can hodgson play full back we cud do with half Brisco/Eden what a wicked combination that wud have been

i know ive been slagging eden off but i dont dislike him i enjoy watching him play most of the time its just his constant mistakes that annoy me hes got to learn at some point thats why i would drop him

I get we're ur coming from Frankie I don't know what route sandercock will take but it's got to improve right across the pitch, the defense the mistakes cut it all out we've got a good team.

Eden didnt cost us the game against Salford. He set up 3 tries and scored 2. He cost us 2 tries.
The entire team putting the cue on the rack cost us against Salford, that and a wicked bounce of the ball.

I think Eden just tries to hard he needs to just settle things down a bit he's got a lot to learn and I'm confident he will improve

Thought mika had a good game last night to, just re looking back at the game and the sly forearm from chase into Josh's neck/face disgusting creature Is chase

Mika should be used as a prop/impact back rower more often, got a bit of Solomona about him.

Shame it's the belly!

Quite right Ginge. I bet Millward was thrilled to bits with him and Hauraki. They both gave penalties away that, in the end, probably cost them the match.