Now you know age Is of no concern on here mrs b Ur gonna ave prob the oldest 2nd row pair in the game arnt you

The best back rows in SL IMO are the oldest ones.

Puletua 33
Manu 32

Trent Waterhouse 31
Ben Westwood 31

Better than our younger one:
Gareth Ellis 31
Danny Tickle 29

Conveniently forgetting Galea at 34! Or did you just forget?

Either way - Hull board for in depth discussions of their squad.

Ellis, galea and tickle out for long game time last season however Manu was right up there with the best that's prob why he's gone to saints

Adam Walker and Hull KR... back on track or in the bin now.

Adam Walkers far too young to get a mention on this thread now MR, we should bring Fletch back out of retirement, he'd be a good age for a 2nd rower nowadays

Interesting to read that it was Walkers aggressive style that impressed CS, add to this I seem to remember the coach looking forward to the aggression Travis Burns will bring to the team. Obviously this is an area he saw us lacking in last season, it would be nice to think we might not be quite the soft touch we were on occasions, all the best teams still have to have that bit of edge to their play.

Adam is a very good promising prop forward in the Chris Hill mould and given chance may well play at the same level.

Don't be coming on here with your informed opinions. He's a nobody, Tiddles told us so.

How Long did it take Chris Hill to find that level though?

after a couple of games for warrington

Chris Hill was ready for Super League since he was 17, he just held out for the right offer to finally come along before committing to full time rugby again. He looked class back in 2006 at Craven Park for Leigh.

That's your take on it, mine is that he wasn't up to S/L standard so went to the championship as many do, but he was to good for that level and eventually someone took a gamble on him.

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You do realise he played SL with Leigh aged 16, went down with them in 2005 and stayed there until he went to Wire last year don't you? Just checking.

Yes but if he was that good back then why did it take teams this long to come knocking?

They were knocking for years.

Financially, the offers that were made to him in this time weren't worth it. As well as playing for Leigh, he had a 'normal' job, I believe, and leaving for SL wouldn't have made sense financially for him.

Warrington took a gamble, offered a little more than previous offers - the rest is history. Fair play to them.

Given the lack of quality in S/L I'm pretty sure if there was a top quality player in the championship then some team would have made him a worthwhile offer, apparently not.

yet another topic derailed by a meaningless debate!

It depends on the players circumstances as to what's worthwhile or not though, doesn't it.

I'm not sure what point it is your trying to make?

Someone said he could be at the same level as Chris Hill, I asked how long it took Chris Hill to get to that level, hence the start of a debate between Sir Stan and I. (which you've jumped in on)

Your complaining because were having a debate????

I'm pretty sure that's what these forum's are for. It hasn't turned into a slanging match, or a hull v Rovers slanging match, no insults thrown,

Unless your gonna say this has gone over my head of course.

'Jumped in on' - don't be so precious, you're posting on a public forum chief.

You'd probably be in a better position to 'debate' if you were atleast aware of the facts surrounding Chris Hill & his move to Warrington, instead of simply assuming that because he wasn't in SL earlier that he wasn't good enough at the time.

enough but his form has improved greatly over the last couple of seasons and teams started to take notice.
I don't know Chris Hill personally so obviously I can only assume all of this