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Quote ="Beverley red"From my source in Australia, The Sydney Sunday Telegraph sports pull out has it that Morgan has been offered the NZ warriors job! I have not seen the artical just heared today from family down there.'"
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| Quote ="Aldy"How have Rovers treat the HDM like dirt?'"
When's the last time someone talked to us? The only quotes I can recall are from Morgan during his press duties and the odd snippet from Hudgell. It seems clear from the outside looking in, that HDM no longer have a lot access to Rovers.
I think the recent 'bad blood' ([size=85if there is any[/size) started when Rovers cut them out of the Mason week to start with. The Mail then (aided by Radio Humberside) did their sleuthing to 'uncover' the Dobson deregistering saga. The Mail then ran the Dobson 'free agent/contract terminated' story whilst HKR said no comment, instead preferred to issue their own statement on hullkr.co.uk. The story snow balled and over shadowed the 'what was the biggest signing in our history' story. Hudge then goes on record over the PA system at CP expressing his displeasure at both local media outlets etc.
If I recall at the time Rovers were getting a new website and started to aggressively promote hullkr.tv by releasing all/most of their content and news through this media stream. This move no doubt improved traffic to hullkr.co.uk and helped the commercial partners in the process. But more or less cut out HDM/Humberside.
The problem what we’ve had this season is the relentless PR disasters that have happened. We don’t want to talk about them and so the likes of the HDM have had free rein to say whatever they like. ‘The Mail understands … followed by ‘Sources close’ are a proven winner. Because we’re not talking to them our side of matters haven’t come across. Thus we can’t control or limit what bad press we’re getting … PR disasters.
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| Quote ="joburg"Why should the club tell the fans everything?!!
I certainly don't expect it and it is not the way to run a business.'"
yer its like these travel agents that know they are going out of business, yet still sell holidays they cant provide, knowing full well they cant give you your money back, keeping people in the dark, now thats the way to run a business, right on!!!!!
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| Quote ="☺East-Sard☺"When's the last time someone talked to us? The only quotes I can recall are from Morgan during his press duties and the odd snippet from Hudgell. It seems clear from the outside looking in, that HDM no longer have a lot access to Rovers.
I think the recent 'bad blood' ([size=85if there is any[/size) started when Rovers cut them out of the Mason week to start with. The Mail then (aided by Radio Humberside) did their sleuthing to 'uncover' the Dobson deregistering saga. The Mail then ran the Dobson 'free agent/contract terminated' story whilst HKR said no comment, instead preferred to issue their own statement on hullkr.co.uk. The story snow balled and over shadowed the 'what was the biggest signing in our history' story. Hudge then goes on record over the PA system at CP expressing his displeasure at both local media outlets etc.
If I recall at the time Rovers were getting a new website and started to aggressively promote hullkr.tv by releasing all/most of their content and news through this media stream. This move no doubt improved traffic to hullkr.co.uk and helped the commercial partners in the process. But more or less cut out HDM/Humberside.
The problem what we’ve had this season is the relentless PR disasters that have happened. We don’t want to talk about them and so the likes of the HDM have had free rein to say whatever they like. ‘The Mail understands … followed by ‘Sources close’ are a proven winner. Because we’re not talking to them our side of matters haven’t come across. Thus we can’t control or limit what bad press we’re getting … PR disasters.'"
Fair post.
You can ride the wave with the media when things are great but you must also swallow big pills when they arent.
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| Quote ="☺East-Sard☺"When's the last time someone talked to us? The only quotes I can recall are from Morgan during his press duties and the odd snippet from Hudgell. It seems clear from the outside looking in, that HDM no longer have a lot access to Rovers.
I think the recent 'bad blood' ([size=85if there is any[/size) started when Rovers cut them out of the Mason week to start with. The Mail then (aided by Radio Humberside) did their sleuthing to 'uncover' the Dobson deregistering saga. The Mail then ran the Dobson 'free agent/contract terminated' story whilst HKR said no comment, instead preferred to issue their own statement on hullkr.co.uk. The story snow balled and over shadowed the 'what was the biggest signing in our history' story. Hudge then goes on record over the PA system at CP expressing his displeasure at both local media outlets etc.
If I recall at the time Rovers were getting a new website and started to aggressively promote hullkr.tv by releasing all/most of their content and news through this media stream. This move no doubt improved traffic to hullkr.co.uk and helped the commercial partners in the process. But more or less cut out HDM/Humberside.
The problem what we’ve had this season is the relentless PR disasters that have happened. We don’t want to talk about them and so the likes of the HDM have had free rein to say whatever they like. ‘The Mail understands … followed by ‘Sources close’ are a proven winner. Because we’re not talking to them our side of matters haven’t come across. Thus we can’t control or limit what bad press we’re getting … PR disasters.'"
Very fair. Clubs fall out with the local media generally because they've done something stupid and don't like it getting made a fuss of (see Reardongate and other mistakes at FC that resulted in banning RH for weeks on end). It's really just best to just front up. ATEOTD the embarrassing hype over Mason's signing and commensurate humiliation over the de-registration of Dobson and exit of Mason after 6 games was entirely on Hudgell's watch. He should have come clean straightaway rather than let the local media tease the story out over a long and damaging period, and then sought to build bridges. Not speaking to the local media only hurts the fans IMO.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Very fair. Clubs fall out with the local media generally because they've done something stupid and don't like it getting made a fuss of (see Reardongate and other mistakes at FC that resulted in banning RH for weeks on end). It's really just best to just front up. ATEOTD the embarrassing hype over Mason's signing and commensurate humiliation over the de-registration of Dobson and exit of Mason after 6 games was entirely on Hudgell's watch. He should have come clean straightaway rather than let the local media tease the story out over a long and damaging period, and then sought to build bridges. [uNot speaking to the local media only hurts the fans IMO.[/u'"
In the case of the HDM I really don't feel it does - there are so many other ways to get Rovers info these days, if HDM stopped all coverage of us tommorow I don't think it would affect the club e.g. through attendances or merchandise sales.
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"I reckon Gary Hetherington might be reaching for David Riolo's mobile number now
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| Quote ="Roofs"In the case of the HDM I really don't feel it does - there are so many other ways to get Rovers info these days, if HDM stopped all coverage of us tommorow I don't think it would affect the club e.g. through attendances or merchandise sales.'"
I don't agree, for all its faults the HDM along with RH is the main source of info for the vast majority of the fanbase. Negative spin (or god forbid no press) on the club during the closed season could see a downturn in actual pass sales. It can also have a negative effect on the ability to generate sponsorship for the club. If for instance a Hull based company wants to sponsor a team would they go for the team surrounded in negative press ore no press or would they go for a team that had the back page each week.
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| Hull kr must want rid of Morgan otherwise they wudnt be allowing him to speak to cas this week, so if he doesn't get the job at cas is it gonna be all negative at kr for the next two years until he does go, morgs and hudgell always been close, not anymore.
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| Quote ="☺East-Sard☺"When's the last time someone talked to us? The only quotes I can recall are from Morgan during his press duties and the odd snippet from Hudgell. It seems clear from the outside looking in, that HDM no longer have a lot access to Rovers.
I think the recent 'bad blood' ([size=85if there is any[/size) started when Rovers cut them out of the Mason week to start with. The Mail then (aided by Radio Humberside) did their sleuthing to 'uncover' the Dobson deregistering saga. The Mail then ran the Dobson 'free agent/contract terminated' story whilst HKR said no comment, instead preferred to issue their own statement on hullkr.co.uk. The story snow balled and over shadowed the 'what was the biggest signing in our history' story. Hudge then goes on record over the PA system at CP expressing his displeasure at both local media outlets etc.
If I recall at the time Rovers were getting a new website and started to aggressively promote hullkr.tv by releasing all/most of their content and news through this media stream. This move no doubt improved traffic to hullkr.co.uk and helped the commercial partners in the process. But more or less cut out HDM/Humberside.
The problem what we’ve had this season is the relentless PR disasters that have happened. We don’t want to talk about them and so the likes of the HDM have had free rein to say whatever they like. ‘The Mail understands … followed by ‘Sources close’ are a proven winner. Because we’re not talking to them our side of matters haven’t come across. Thus we can’t control or limit what bad press we’re getting … PR disasters.'"
You haven't answered the question when did Rovers treat the HDM like dirt.
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| I think it's safe to say Justin will indeed be moving on come the end of this season if he can secure a job elsewhere, just a case of who'll replace him
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"I think it's safe to say Justin will indeed be moving on come the end of this season if he can secure a job elsewhere, just a case of who'll replace him'"
Noble & Gene - The Dream Team
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| I can imagine James Webster will be a candidate
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"I can imagine James Webster will be a candidate'"
That would also be a good choice agree, although it would sure be a dilemma for Webbo if Hull wanted to keep him - return to the club you love and where you was a hero, or stay with the club who's given you your first coaching role, could be very interesting indeed...
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If we had appointed a new coach 4 weeks ago, this turnaround would have suggested we had done the correct thing in disposing of Morgan, I would like to think the main reason for our little change in fortune is that both Dobbo and Newton are back in the squad and we are finding a bit of form.
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| Quote ="dum-dum"How would James Webster be a good choice?
If we had appointed a new coach 4 weeks ago, this turnaround would have suggested we had done the correct thing in disposing of Morgan, I would like to think the main reason for our little change in fortune is that both Dobbo and Newton are back in the squad and we are finding a bit of form.'"
Well admittedly Justin deserves credit for 3 wins from 3, but tbf it has been against very weak opposition.
IMO there would be many advantages to Webster as coach:
- His previous spell was very successful and led to our first silverware in 8 years
- He's been learning the ropes at Hull, one of the biggest clubs in the country
- He's young, the advantage of this been openness to new, modern ideas
- He knows a large part of the squad (Briscoe, Fisher, Murrell, Netherton, Newton, Galea etc) having played in SL with them in 2007 and / or 2008
Okay it would be partly a gamble due to him having no experience as head coach, but in terms of continuity and stability at the club it could be worth the risk.
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| Quote ="Roofs"Noble &[u Gene[/u - The Dream Team
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"Just so wrong in many ways.'"
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| Quote ="Roofs"Well admittedly Justin deserves credit for 3 wins from 3, but tbf it has been against very weak opposition.
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- He's been learning the ropes at Hull, one of the biggest clubs in the country
- He's young, the advantage of this been openness to new, modern ideas
- He knows a large part of the squad (Briscoe, Fisher, Murrell, Netherton, Newton, Galea etc) having played in SL with them in 2007 and / or 2008
Okay it would be partly a gamble due to him having no experience as head coach, but in terms of continuity and stability at the club it could be worth the risk.'"
Its ok dismissing the wins as 'against poor opposition' and therefore nothing worth shouting about. Wakefield are woeful but we still put 70 on them (potentially 84), not an easy task as I'm sure Saints will agree.
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| Quote ="dum-dum"Its ok dismissing the wins as 'against poor opposition' and therefore nothing worth shouting about. Wakefield are woeful but we still put 70 on them (potentially 84), not an easy task as I'm sure Saints will agree.'"
That's true, but considering he's almost certainly leaving now anyway we've got to start planning ahead eh. If not Webster, who else is available for the level we need?
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| Quote ="Roofs"That's true, but considering he's almost certainly leaving now anyway we've got to start planning ahead eh. If not Webster, who else is available for the level we need?'"
Why is he almost certainly leaving?
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| Quote ="Roofs"That's true, but considering he's almost certainly leaving now anyway we've got to start planning ahead eh. If not Webster, who else is available for the level we need?'"
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| Quote ="Roofs"That's true, but considering he's almost certainly leaving now anyway we've got to start planning ahead eh. If not Webster, who else is available for the level we need?'"
Noble, Kear, Paul Anderson, Ian Millward, Daniel Anderson, Wane if he isn't confirmed as Wigan boss, Gentle...
basically all the people, other than Morgan, rumoured to be on Cas' radar.
I'd rather go for new broom than pick somebody because they used to play for us.
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| Quote ="dum-dum"Why is he almost certainly leaving?
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Pretty much nailed on for NZ Warriors. But a good shout.
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