|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Moderator | 12664 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2007 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
Moderator
|
| As far as a merger goes, I'd think you'd end with 3 underpowered clubs at different levels of the game, as I suspect there'd be attempts to create 'new' Hull FC and Hull KR clubs to continue those traditions, drawing away potential support from the new entity. To forestall that, a merged club could retain the brands, maybe using one for the academy and one as feeder Championship (1) team. But it wouldn't be the same.
And anyway, despite the weekend's disappointments, it isn't going to happen.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Moderator | 12664 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2007 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
Moderator
|
| Quote ="westjba"some fans are obsessed with finances, as long as my clubs ok, i really couldnt be ars*d with another teams finances/accounts! some have way to much time on their hands'"
I wouldn't be surprised if that turned up in a few sigs.
Not that we should stick our heads in the sand, though.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1328 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Nov 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2023 | Sep 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Mild Rover"I wouldn't be surprised if that turned up in a few sigs.
Not that we should stick our heads in the sand, though.'"
your right MR, you shouldnt stick your head in the sand, and your finances dont look to healthy, but what clubs arent in debt? as long as the clubs stay in business, why do people worry about others? seriously are you bothered about FC's accounts? i usually skip finance threads, my finances (or lack of), start at home, i worry enough about that, then worrying about anybody elses lol
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 16983 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2008 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2015 | Oct 2013 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="blakeysrobin"Excuse me? supported Rovers for 30 years in dark days and not so I certainly know what the history is.
A little patronising I think.'"
Sorry no offence intended...
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 5166 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2007 | 17 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jun 2017 | Mar 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Sorry no offence intended...'"
Non taken, I love my rugby and because I live 30 miles from hull I wouldnt come in to watch amatuer. We wont ever merge but IF it ever happened I would follow because I could never go to Cas or Leeds.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 12260 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2007 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2023 | Jul 2023 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| As an outsider I would still hate to see both clubs merge.The banter /rivalry between both clubs is what it is all about.
Both clubs are not doing too bad in the league at the moment.
Fans of all clubs will feel they deserve better.
In the cup ,both of us were beaten by a better side on the day, we just have to live with it.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 4381 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Nov 2008 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2024 | Sep 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="blakeysrobin"Non taken, I love my rugby and because I live 30 miles from hull I wouldnt come in to watch amatuer. We wont ever merge but IF it ever happened I would follow because I could never go to Cas or Leeds.'"
i live 55 miles from hull to watch fc home and away.i also still watch west hull during the winter months(i come thru on weekends anyway).i dont think i would go as i believe there wouldn't be the passion or intensity there is now.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 16983 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2008 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2015 | Oct 2013 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="blakeysrobin"Non taken, I love my rugby and because I live 30 miles from hull I wouldnt come in to watch amatuer. We wont ever merge but IF it ever happened I would follow because I could never go to Cas or Leeds.'"
I would do ameatur, but I reckon I would become a neutral,that would be appealing, less stressful
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 5166 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2007 | 17 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jun 2017 | Mar 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="barton baird"As an outsider I would still hate to see both clubs merge.The banter /rivalry between both clubs is what it is all about.
Both clubs are not doing too bad in the league at the moment.
Fans of all clubs will feel they deserve better.
In the cup [u,both of us were beaten by a better side on the day[/u, we just have to live with it.'"
And something we are going to see for a few seasons I think.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 4381 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Nov 2008 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2024 | Sep 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="blakeysrobin"And something we are going to see for a few seasons I think.'"
-it's looking that way!!
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 30450 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2007 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Whilst the rivalry is great, the fact is that the city cannot support 2 top class teams. History has shown that both clubs have largely under achieved other than brief periods in their histories. wigan won twice as many challenge cups in one decade than Hull and rovers have combined in their total existence. Look at the wigan honours list and you'll see how poor our combined ones are.
Hull need to pull in 13k every match, sell over £1m in merchandise a year to barely make a profit whilst rovers lose £1/2m a year just fielding a semi competitive side. It's frightening
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 4381 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Nov 2008 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2024 | Sep 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Whilst the rivalry is great, the fact is that the city cannot support 2 top class teams. History has shown that both clubs have largely under achieved other than brief periods in their histories. wigan won twice as many challenge cups in one decade than Hull and rovers have combined in their total existence. Look at the wigan honours list and you'll see how poor our combined ones are.
Hull need to pull in 13k every match, sell over £1m in merchandise a year to barely make a profit whilst rovers lose £1/2m a year just fielding a semi competitive side. It's frightening'"
god help us if sky ever pulled out
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1328 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Nov 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2023 | Sep 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"god help us if sky ever pulled out
'"
frightening thought that jimmy, how many clubs would fold if sky pulled the plug??
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Moderator | 12664 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2007 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
Moderator
|
| Quote ="westjba"frightening thought that jimmy, how many clubs would fold if sky pulled the plug??'"
If no alternative revenue stream was found it'd bankrupt the sport, as it is currently run. It could go semi-pro and survive for a while, but without the media interest that television coverage generated, it'd probably just mean a slow death.
There is an argument, I've seen, for giving coverage cheaply (or even free, if they guarantee it'd be shown nationally and prominently) to a terrestrial broadcaster, in the hope of greatly increased visibility and therefore sponsorship. Be a risk, but if Sky did pull the plug, there'd be little to lose. It'd maybe be worth the RFL informally sounding out alternative partners and sponsors even now.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 2490 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2007 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2022 | Aug 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| I have been following this thread with interest. I was against a merger when it raised its head in 1995 when rovers were way down, now they have got into Super league on thier own merit I am even more against it. If SKY pull the plug we are all doomed, FC might be well run & in profit but if they have no one to play it wont be any good to them. If a merger went ahead I would not go. I support Rovers & I go quiet a few times to watch FC but otherwise I avoid Hull like the plague. I would go to York as I could visit my grand child & family after watching the game there. As for us fans deserving better ask Tigers,Cats,Salford & Quins fans if they would swap teams? They would snap your arm off.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 4381 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Nov 2008 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2024 | Sep 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="westjba"frightening thought that jimmy, how many clubs would fold if sky pulled the plug??'"
most!!!!-quins,wakey,crusaders,hudds,salfordetc,etc.even our 2 clubs would struggle.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 4381 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Nov 2008 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2024 | Sep 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Beverley red"I have been following this thread with interest. I was against a merger when it raised its head in 1995 when rovers were way down, now they have got into Super league on thier own merit I am even more against it. If SKY pull the plug we are all doomed, FC might be well run & in profit but if they have no one to play it wont be any good to them. If a merger went ahead I would not go. I support Rovers & Quote [uI go quiet a few times to watch FC [/u'" but otherwise I avoid Hull like the plague. I would go to York as I could visit my grand child & family after watching the game there. As for us fans deserving better ask Tigers,Cats,Salford & Quins fans if they would swap teams? They would snap your arm off[u.'" [/u
edging over to the west are you???
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 2490 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2007 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2022 | Aug 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"[/u
edging over to the west are you???
'"
Beverley is West of the river, I just edge over to the East to watch my team.I enjoy the odd game at the KC if rovers are not playing, I have always followed them I just consider myself a Rovers fan first. The ideal for me would Rovers to relocate to Beverley race course then I could have a pint or three on match days, but thats a dafter idea than a merger.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 281 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2009 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2012 | Feb 2012 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| If Sky sports pulled funds and RL was to die .....The RFU (IRB) would alter the rules of union, drop 2 players, and invite an application from Kingston upon Hull to apply for a franchise (cos they are coming to RU too) in an expanded, all singing & all dancing Guinness National Premiership comp'.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 4381 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Nov 2008 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2024 | Sep 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 2490 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2007 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2022 | Aug 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="mildred's toyboy"If Sky sports pulled funds and RL was to die .....The RFU (IRB) would alter the rules of union, drop 2 players, and invite an application from Kingston upon Hull to apply for a franchise (cos they are coming to RU too) in an expanded, all singing & all dancing Guinness National Premiership comp'.'"
God help us if that came to pass I have been involved with the snobs that run union all my life in one way or another(life ban & the rest) The only thing that might happen is that the north took over by winning everything with huge crowds all cashed up & the establishment lost controll of the game! But that is where we started in 1895, funny old game eh?
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 30450 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2007 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Beverley red"Beverley is West of the river, I just edge over to the East to watch my team.I enjoy the odd game at the KC if rovers are not playing, I have always followed them I just consider myself a Rovers fan first. The ideal for me would Rovers to relocate to Beverley race course then I could have a pint or three on match days, but thats a dafter idea than a merger.'"
Pretty sure Beverley is North of the river
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 2490 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2007 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2022 | Aug 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Pretty sure Beverley is North of the river'"
Thank God you dont navigate the north sea ferry or we would all end up in France, Beverley is west of the river hull.(north of the Humber)
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 8033 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Sep 2006 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Apr 2015 | Apr 2015 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Which is an estuary.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 2382 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Apr 2007 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2018 | Jul 2013 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Makes me laugh how people still think that two elite division clubs from the same city doesn't work. Both are well supported and have seen their support rise since Rovers were promoted, both spend the maximum salary cap, both still have huge catchment areas to tap into for a much larger potential support base and both continue to thrive off field in areas such as merchandising and community projects. As others have said, the presence of, and rivalry between the two clubs plays a big part in this. Two clubs also give young players much better opportunities and choice when it comes to youth development.
The constant talk about finances is completely out of proportion. It's not 'scary' in any conceivable way - there aren't many professional sports clubs who make much notable profit, and any debts either club have incurred in recent years have being manageable and nothing out of the ordinary.
It's also part of the heritage of the city - Hull people have being supporting these two clubs for well over a century, and to remove one or 'merge' them for the sake of extremely debatable 'convenience' makes no sense at all to me.
|
|
|
|
|