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| Quote ="The_Mighty_F90"They can't be the best because Adam Pearson has already signed the best 2 up. He said so.
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| Quote ="Legends and Icons"Not at all .. Dobbo is a quality 7 but burns has played 2 games so a bit early to be calling them best h/b pairing in sl isnt it ?'"
We've got the best 7 by far, burns was a starting 6, not a reserve grader like most halves that come over. I agree it's slightly premature in calling them the best pairing so early on but it most definitely has the makings of the best.
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| Early days but looks pretty good. Not many SL clubs signing 1st grade NRL half-backs any more. If your best players are 6 & 7 you should win plenty of games.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"icon_lol.gif
For the team flying high in eighth place.'" Yes because they have been available for all 6 games obviously.
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| Quote ="Legends and Icons"This thread was started for 1 reason only as mrphil knows ... Like I said earlier very transparent, nice bit of fishing tho'" Yes it was started to discuss OUR half backs on OUR board.
The fact you as a troll can't understand that is your issue.
Quote ="Legends and Icons"Might start a thread call challenge cup winners over the last 32 years !!!!'" No because that WOULD be trolling and you may take a little break.
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| Potentially they could be very good, but imo they need a lot more games together before we should be making such bold statements.
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| Surprised Brough and Robinson didn't get a mention, started the season very well.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"I never said that I don't accept that they are a good pairing - I haven't actually seen them play together. However to suggest that they are the best half back pairing in Super League seems a little premature.'"
This just great, not only do you guys rate any youngster that breaks into your first team as a 'future international' but now we have Lineham who has played how many games in SL? And is been labelled as 'potential world class', the next WBW! Get a grip!!!
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| The rugby fans in Hull are as guilty as each other about over egging their opinions and I suppose it’s what makes the banter so entertaining (at times).
We big up players ability (Craig Hall!!!) and our potential to challenge and win the cup (usually an anniversary of 1980). Hull always start every year as ‘The new dawn / the giant awakes’ only to get to May and postpone said new dawn til next year and the giant has pressed snooze.
The half back debate is an interesting one, I do think Dobbo is certainly one of the better half backs, but he does look better in our team as he has to carry it. We rely on attack and Dobbo is central to it. Burns will no doubt take some of that on and has looked ok so far but I still thought we went to Dobbo far too much on Saturday. Dobbo’s game management still has some way to go for me and it’s this that ultimately stops him being the best in SL.
Are their better pairings?
McGuire / Burrow (when he plays 7) is better.
Brough / Robinson is a very different one but in a better team. As a side how badly done to is DB to be overlooked for England yet again, far far better than Chase.
Dureau / Bosc very similar to ours, will be interesting to see how SD gets on.
Myler / Briers. Briers makes Myler a better player, without him Myler is average
In an FC v KR context Hull have a good team with no HB’s, we have good HB’s in an average team outcome being we will be really entertaining but still lose a lot of games, FC will grind out wins, not pretty but effective and neither will win anything til they sort out the short comings and they will be pretty evenly matched. Makes for good banter I suppose and the nearest either of us will get to any satisfaction is if we beat each other.
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| Dobson and Burns in the Wigan or Warrington sides would make them stronger IMO. Dobson on his own I personally think there are better 7's in the league and Burns on his own there are probably better 6's. Together though I don't see many if any being better suited to one another. In some ways I think Dobson/Burns is a step up from Dobson/Green and I really rated that partnership!
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| Quote ="Easty"The pairing at Catalan is the only one that comes remotely close to been better then Dobson and Burns.'"
Massive statement to make when considering how many titles Leeds have won recently, personally surprised Sinfield wasnt paired with McGuire, and also Warringtons recent record in the CC. Bold - definitely, stupid - possibly, we shall see but my monies on the later!!!
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| I think Green's ability with ball in hand complimented Dobson very well. As I don't see much NRL, I'm not too familiar with Burns' game and how it will work alongside the organisational skills of Burns.
The early signs are good, however.
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| Quote ="djcXIII"Massive statement to make when considering how many titles Leeds have won recently, personally surprised Sinfield wasnt paired with McGuire, and also Warringtons recent record in the CC. Bold - definitely, stupid - possibly, we shall see but my monies on the later!!!'"
Bit of a silly post really, just because Leeds have won x titles and Warrington have won the CC a couple of times doesn't mean their HBs are better (not saying they're not BTW). The balance of their sides is better, the team as a whole is miles better.
If London signed Thurston and an in his prime Lockyer as 6 and 7 but kept the same pack and backs they wouldn;t win the GF.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Surprised Brough and Robinson didn't get a mention, started the season very well.'"
This.
I hate Robinson with a passion normally reserved only for those in B&W, but I also recognise that him & Brough are working very effectively.
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| What's your beef with Robinson?
Brough is real class for me, great kicking game and has added more to his running in the last few seasons.
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| Quote ="Sandra The Terrorist"What's your beef with Robinson?
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He's just an arrogant little prat with a pan-face and a really stupid "fan club". A few years ago during one particular beasting we have now got used to, I remember him scoring at the 'Pharm in front of the away fans and doing that footballer thing of turning his back to us and pointing to his name on the shirt with both hands. Proper grated on me.
Basically, I have an irrational dis-like of the bloke. As fans, it's allowed and encouraged in certain circles.
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| Quote ="SirStan"He's just an arrogant little prat with a pan-face and a really stupid "fan club". A few years ago during one particular beasting we have now got used to, I remember him scoring at the 'Pharm in front of the away fans and doing that footballer thing of turning his back to us and pointing to his name on the shirt with both hands. Proper grated on me.
Basically, I have an irrational dis-like of the bloke. =#00FFFFAs fans, it's allowed and encouraged in certain circles.'"
Oh I'm not saying it should be any other way, I was just curious.
Basically I avoid this angst by thinking that everyone is an idiot and a complete bell end and then being presently surprised when they're not.
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| Quote ="barham red"Bit of a silly post really, just because Leeds have won x titles and Warrington have won the CC a couple of times doesn't mean their HBs are better (not saying they're not BTW). The balance of their sides is better, the team as a whole is miles better.
If London signed Thurston and an in his prime Lockyer as 6 and 7 but kept the same pack and backs they wouldn;t win the GF.'"
So you dont think putting Sinfield alongside Dobson would improve your team, the worlds number 1 player and all that? Personally cant stand Sinfield but dont doubt his ability to drag Leeds out the mire as he does so very often. (For what its worth I'd have him at Hull any day of the week and twice on a Friday) The halves are the heartbeat of the team and have a massive influence on a teams performance and balance, so in answer to your second question, London with Thurston and Lockyer at the helm would be well up their challenging for honours though probably not winning things.
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| Quote ="djcXIII"So you dont think putting Sinfield alongside Dobson would improve your team, the worlds number 1 player and all that? Personally cant stand Sinfield but dont doubt his ability to drag Leeds out the mire as he does so very often. (For what its worth I'd have him at Hull any day of the week and twice on a Friday) The halves are the heartbeat of the team and have a massive influence on a teams performance and balance, so in answer to your second question, London with Thurston and Lockyer at the helm would be well up their challenging for honours though probably not winning things.'"
Sinnie is not a half back better at 13
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| Quote ="gingerspice"Sinnie is not a half back better at 13'"
Also, barham red didn't ask a question, nevermind two questions. So, what second question are you answering?
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| Quote ="dum-dum"Also, barham red didn't ask a question, nevermind two questions. So, what second question are you answering?'"
What ur deliberately trying to confuse me
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| No I was adding to your point about Sinfield being a 13, read the rest of it's post.
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| Quote ="dum-dum"No I was adding to your point about Sinfield being a 13, read the rest of it's post.'"
Nope I'm not getting it at all
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| Quote ="djcXIII"So you dont think putting Sinfield alongside Dobson would improve your team, the worlds number 1 player and all that? Personally cant stand Sinfield but dont doubt his ability to drag Leeds out the mire as he does so very often. (For what its worth I'd have him at Hull any day of the week and twice on a Friday) The halves are the heartbeat of the team and have a massive influence on a teams performance and balance, so in answer to your second question, London with Thurston and Lockyer at the helm would be well up their challenging for honours though probably not winning things.'"
So in essence I was correct, you agree if London had Thurston at 7 and an in his prime Lockyer at 6 they probably wouldn't have won 6 titles or 2 CC's. SO unless you're saying that HB pairing wouldn't be the best then it proves you can have the worlds best HB pairing and not win anything.
Unless you have good backs and a good pack adding to good HB's then you wont win things. The pack lay the platform, the backs run the lines, yes you need the backs to finish it but the team that wins things doesn't necessarily have the best pairing.
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| Green is going well at Wigan. MOTM in is last game.
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