Quote ="Mrs Barista"Been there, done that. www.englandrl.co.uk/internationa ... submit.y=8'" Tut, on form lately aren't ya Yorkie.

Quote ="Mrs Barista"Been there, done that. www.englandrl.co.uk/internationa ... submit.y=8'" Tut, on form lately aren't ya Yorkie.

Not really England was like a GB 2nd team in those days.
Lets see if Mrs B can come back with stats/averages based on actual minutes on the field seeing as she want more specific

Are you allowed to enter into a new negotiation whilst still reneging on the old one?

I'm well aware of that. You said England. Dowes has played for England. Same as Dowes has made more tackle busts both in absolute terms and per game than most of Rovers props. I know you don't like it, that's why you've tried to excuse Watts on the basis of position, despite the fact that there are actually backrowers like Manu who made over 90 last year, and you've challenged it on a "per game" basis and that didn't work either. Keep digging that hole though.

Blah Blah.
So tackle busts averages based on actual time spent on the field are what then.
Its a simple enough request


I mean come on, your delight when Clinton only played 2 short spells on his debut at Cas was all over this forum.
Just reply with the answer not your usual flannel.

You had a strop with the absolute numbers and demanded a per game number. I provided one which showed Dowes' supremacy. You tried to exclude Watts on the basis of position, which made you look more of an @rse because some backrowers can do 90+ a season. You're now asking for another set of measures which I don't even have the data to calculate. It's unlikely that Dowes would be trailing far behind this group of Rovers props as you imply, since he played 11 games off the bench, but I can see why you might want to try this as your other attempts to justify your mocking of Dowes tacklebusting have fallen sadly flat.

Face facts. He's actually not as cr@p as you'd like us to believe. It irks you that I've given you some stats to suggest he doesn't lag behind all Rovers props, even superstars Clinton and Watts, and has more tackle busts in absolute terms and per game than them, and Wheeldon, and Netherton. This is all the more astonishing when you consider his tackles + marker tackles were 741, compared to Clinton 541, Netherton 577, Watts 715 and Wheeldon 460. Big engine for Dowesy, then.



Fortunately, however, I do have the 2009 stats, which, amazingly, show the same picture (number of tackle busts and per game):


Dowes 25 1.14
Aizue 16 1.07
Vella 14 0.93
Netherton 12 0.60
Fozzard 11 0.55

In the context of tackles made (absolute and per game), it's quite extraordinary that he performs so well in both. Massive engine. Well done Dowesy






Dowes 781 35.5
Fozzard 574 28.7
Netherton 558 27.9
Vella 355 23.7
Aizue 216 14.4


The irony of you trying to hold someone to account given my sig is utterly delicious.

Give it a rest FFS!!!

Someone has to defend Dowes against this entirely unprovoked mockery, particularly when there's absolutely no evidence to back it up.

Still no minutes on the field comparison though but granted it would be a ball ache to find out but i had to put it to the test.



Fozzard was poor hence his departure and Vella was injury hit in 2009

Christmas colours are Red and White BTW

Morgan's response to Radford resigning for Hull was Que Sera Sera so not as disapointing as you hoped.

Wheeldon = Younger, more aggressive and his performances at the back end of last season were very good whilst the Dowes warmed his in the stands and as you state is 5th chioce at Hull now

Couldn't give a poop Mrs B, it's just getting tedious for the rest of us that's all!

You wont find me denying that Rovers tried to sign Radford and its an open secret a 2 year deal was in place.
Morgan's reaction was more a case of moving on rather then dwelling on it.

Unless you provide a comparison based on minutes played your wasting your tackle busting comparisons on me.

The retail sales will still be the same whether sold in November or December as fans will always want the new shirts etc.
Incidently a season review will be on sale in a couple of weeks with a contribution from yours truely



I want Dowes in your 17 now, after such a defense of him surely you do too to prove me wrong

How convenient, you never mentioned this per minute ratio at all until it was shown that per game Dowes was better than all those Rovers props.



So there's no advantage whatsoever to having a large range of Christmas gift merchandise and replica shirts available from the beginnning of November? OK then.






Dowes will be in our 17. It's not ideal, but there we are. At least we know that slating his tackle-busting credentials is foolish in the context of what other props deliver.

We now know Richard Agars username

Blimey,powerpoint presentations on RL Fans are just around the corner then

i almost forgot that the thread was about david mills, after mrs b waffling about dowes for 3 pages, nothing new there then, come on mods, don't get into a silly argument with mrs b just keep in on topic!

Quote ="Mrs Barista"'" For goodness sake Mrs B, Christmas is coming, treat yourself to a good book. findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_q ... _n9450181/

Quote ="Mrs Barista"'" For goodness sake Mrs B, Christmas is coming, treat yourself to a good book. findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_q ... _n9450181/

I swear this is meant to be a David Mills thread!!!!

Not very interesting though is he.

neither is the drivel mrs spouts but we have to read it on every thread

All about opinions my baggy skinned friend, I find her amusing.

Just "Foe" her if she annoys you that much.

she's amusing to a certain extent but goes on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on, and absolutely will not give up ever about proving a point that doesnt really matter and is usually nothing to do with the thread. And to spend as much time on this board is a bit unhealthy when she claims to be a black and white