Sinfield seems on the wane now though, all he does is complain to the ref (at which he is still world class). Why not put Murrell in for him? He would do as good a job and maybe give the Aussies something a bit different to think about (as he's stood over them having smashed them in the tackle and forced a knock on

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Not sure Sinfield is on the wane tbh, seen no evidence of that.

Has Murrell ever done that to someone before

Countless times. Remember a special one against Brad Drew when we where playing Shuddersfield it happened in the 1st two minutes of the game. Brad never returned to the field IIRC.

think you will find drew was playing for wakefield.

I did add IIRC

Scott would only be in the side due to his kicking as he can land a ball a yard from the line 99 times out of 100. His defence is erratic though, he makes a lot of tackles but also misses a great deal too, if we miss more than we make against the best international sides then we wont stand a chance. If we take someone just for their kicking game then why leave out Brough? His defence is questionable and he is very light but his kicking game is not far off world class.

Watts certainly isn't ready for this level but he is certainly in need of the experience, only can we afford to take a passenger when our back division are already pretty much passengers???

Widdop has been playing in the halfs hasn't he? So where do England put him? Do we put Tomkins in at full back and throw Widdop in at 6?

I must ask though is Myler really at this standard? His coach saw fit to leave him out of a big game and may well do the same again, if he isn't ready for Wembley or Old Trafford is he ready for a big international tournament? I personally hope Eastmond is fit to play there as he is someone the Aussies will have trouble with.

When Sinfield was used as a hooker I thought we looked much more stable and our go forward was very good, I'd like to see that again for sure and bring Roby on to cause havoc around the ruck.

With all this in mind lets face it we dont really have a chance anyway so why not just play our kids like Wattsy and get them ready for the World Cup??

Scott and Sinfield look fairly similar here... [urlhttp://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?hs1=2010&hp1=1921&hs2=2010&hp2=263&stat=tries&season=2010[/url The main differences are Sinfields tackle completion rate of 96% (which is pretty amazing) against Scotts of 90%.

Murrell edges the metres per carry (4.6 against 4.1) makes fewer errors and gives away fewer penalties and we all know he is quite handy with the 40/20.

Clearly these stats don't account for other attributes you might want in a rep player, experience, leadership, coolness under pressure etc. but in basic, measureable elements of the game there's not really much to choose between them. Maybe looking at the World Cup it might make sense to bring Murrell in now if a Sinfield type player is deemed a requirement for the national side.

Murrell's big asset to a touring party is his versatility. Similar to Lee Smith who will likely go ahead of players who are better wingers or centres or fullbacks because he can play wing and centre and fullback.
Basically I'd consider Murrell as cover for Sinfield and Roby - and probably only take him if one of them was unavailable. Is there a warm up game against Wales or France? F'ing useless as preparation for Aus and Nwz, but it'd be nice for him to get a cap at least, and well-deserved IMO.

Kris Welham cannot defend. Ive been saying it for ages, last friday showed this.

O'Loughlin won't be a centre either.

Is Liam Watts a Prop or Second row?

Liam is a Prop but he's played a fair few games a loose this season due to Murrell having to be moved to Standoff.

I'm not saying a good defensive game isnt important but, isn't a bit negative to pick players based upon defensive abilities, why not pick Welham because he [ican[/i score tries, and is a great finisher?

Because hes not the best finisher (yes he is good though) and those that can finish just as good are better in defence?

Hes scores 2 tries but lets 5 in down his side; thats more negative then picking someone who wont let 5 in but could get the 2 tries to boot!....

I do like Welham when he has a good game its good through out but god when he is out of position do we know about it down his side, he is fast but i don't think he is good enough for England squad...

If ordinary players like Yeaman can play for his country Welham certainly can.

Very true certainly don't think that Yeaman should be in the team he is an AS been..

www.hullkr.co.uk/article.php?id=1358 unlucky for wattsy.

www.hullkr.co.uk/article.php?id=1358 unlucky for wattsy.

Congrats to all them who have done enough to impress Steve Mac to get a place on the plane down under

Indeed.

Shame that there is not one Hull born player in a squad selected by a Hull born coach.

No point wasting a place on a goal kicker, if you aren't going to need to take any conversions.

I hope that comes back to haunt me, I really do.

How come Fox hasn't been picked?

was there even a game on, nothing on sky or the news about it.

Good question, his personal battles with Briscoe in the derbies and both of their pretty good form all season (plus being good friends) would, I think, make a good centre/wing partnership for England. Hey ho.

Forever the optimist I think we'll beat PNG.

I dont know what qualities he is trying to bring but to me it looks like he is trying to progress the youngsters for the World Cup. Only problem is these backs dont really have anyone to guide them and lead them, Tomkins is indevidually great but when the chips are down can he drag the team out of that hole and fight our way back into it? Robinson and Brown are never going to work on the big stage either.

A close game against PNG then two heavy defeats against the Kiwi's and Aussies. I hope not but the future does not look good.

I dont know but looking at that squad if I was him i'd be glad of the snub.
I would imagine getting completly slaughtered wouldn't be on my to-do list.
Infact not going could well be a blessing.