Humongous bite, well done that man.

This whole how many academy graduates in the 17 do you have is becoming nonsensical now. As is the who will play 15 games comment. How do we know who will play when with form, injuries and our permanent residency at Red Hall to contend with.

This farcical holier then thou attitude of FC fans is 1, why not a lot of people like you and 2, a little bit hypocritical. Perfect opportunity for a young much maligned half back to step up to the plate this year...that's worked out well. Do you genuinely think Abdul will play 15 games this year to use your benchmarking? I'm dubious.

Fans of both teams are lying through their teeth if they say they would rather have a team full of kids instead of success. Yes a balance has to exist, which both clubs are working hard to rectify but if a kid coming in from West Yorkshire or west Sydney who is better then a kid from hull and improve the teams chances of winning then he plays every time for me. If Leon pryce scores the winning try in your cup final ( which by the look of last year was the pre season friendly ) are you going to be disappointed because it wasn't a Hull born player scoring or elated you won?

To go over it again and again is tedious and a non starter. Gone are the days of 17 hull born lads, unless you fancy trips to Rochdale, York and Workington. Winning is winning, end of.

Yes your right what you say but I was just wondering if he spends as much time on all the other super league clubs forums worrying about there squads chances are he doesn't which makes him a troll

do you think we're that bothered

And to add to the arument further, give me ANY of our new players over Welham, a home grown player who doesn't cut it. The same as Hall, local but originally FC of course. Salter is good and will play, but the simple fact is thst we have better players. If the board are willing to invest in purchasing players that are better than local lads, why stop them? Are we really bothered Hull (City) Tigers don't have many local lads? It's a shame, yes, and we will still look for local talent, but why set any limits?

Me I do not give a toss about who plays for HKR has long has they give 100% but if we had a team who were all local I would be a lot happier if they all gave 100%

Hull City don't compete in a salary capped league where value for money is massive - awful comparison. It's not about 'local' players as such, but players brought up through the ranks, they don't have to have been born in Hull, that isn't the point. Hull had Briscoe (Featherstone), Leeds have Sinfield & Watkins (Manchester-ish).

Signing a better player is fine in the short term, and it might help get you a few places up the league, but long-term if a club really wants to compete for trophies regularly, quality youth products are needed.

Problem being that academy players are only cheap for a short while, once the're any good they'll want paying as much as any bought in uk player. Southern hemisphere players are generally more expensive but unless its a constant churn it wont work.
Lets be honest if any of our local players look like being world class then they'll be off either to Aus or union for a lot more money or to a Wigan, Saints or Wire to win something. The only players either Hull club have produced in recent years good enough are Briscoe and Taylor and they've both moved. Shaul is the only other one I can see developing into that type, will be interesting to see if he hangs around long.

Bang on the money, they won't accept it though, because we're FC fans.

They don't realise that it's the exact way we've been trying to do things until the last couple of years since Pearson took over.

Didn't Pearson state that he would no longer be fully funding the club after this season unless the stay away fans come back in big numbers? [urlhttp://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Hull-FC-owner-Adam-Pearson-fears-stay-away-fans/story-24139369-detail/story.html[/url Not sure how this will affect your future youth setup. Maybe Rovers might see a large influx of local talent if he stick to his threat. He can't keep funding FC forever without owning a large company to help him fund it like Sir Neil and Sir Rob.

The same two gentlemen who said they wont keep throwing money at the club? who put the club up for sale and who also took a interest free loan of £1m from Dr Allam?

Exactly. I include FC in what I say about short-termism too, although we [iseem[/i to be trying to get out of the habit. It's a perpetual cycle which results in mid-table results with the odd good year thrown in (and the odd bad year

).

Mid table? you wish. And the last team from Hull to finish as low as 12th was FC

I think my irony meter just exploded.

Well yes, as you could have ignored the remark

Your thinking is very noble, and clearly you are standing up for the rights of young English kids throughout SL, challenging supporters of all clubs who fail to meet the stellar standards of the Pearson led revolution.

So, I looked for your crusading over on the Salford board, as they are the standard bearers of the "buying success at the expense of the kids" model you so clearly hate. Guess what people, he's not been there! I was deeply shocked by this clear oversight.

Then I realised, he's just your bog-standard B&W troll, no better than freptard or Houghton's Heroes.

No, that was the sound of the falling out of your club.
No north or south stands allowed in 2016. The Allams said so.

I wouldn't be using the Allams as a source of info, hardly a track record of standing by their words are they?

It came from Mr Pearson himself.
[urlhttp://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Hull-FC-owner-Adam-Pearson-fears-stay-away-fans/story-24139369-detail/story.html[/url

I don't need to tell you that AP is full of it either do I? He'd get his own mother tap-dancing naked on the steps of City Hall if it would shift another 10 season passes.

we don't run the club, we don't pick the team or take training sessions. were only fans. you'll have to contact the people who can answer your questions I.E the coach or chairman.

I think that video is only available to the Hull FC club 150 pass holders.

Iam glad the pennys finally dropped,I did warn you,but you knew best.

The squad numbers are not meaningless they have not been randomly pulled from a hat but the players were wearing the numbers on their training gear on the first day of pre season, before anyone had a chance to impress even in training and since then several further signings have been added.

So the squad numbers are a guide only.

As for the idea that promoting local players to the squad is some sort of noble honourable pursuit, what a load of poppycock. Clubs want a healthy production line of youngsters because it is good for the club not for altruistic reasons. Who wouldn't want a conveyor belt of quality locals who come into the squad on low wages and provide ready made quality replacements as others leave? And who offer the possibility of continuity, the nucleus of a squad as others come & go. This is what everyone wants.

Achieving this is another matter and probably Hull are doing a little better than us at the moment, this is the fruit of earlier initiatives. There is not much wrong with the work currently being done by Pete Grayburn and his staff at Rovers or with the support given to them by the club.

All clubs want the same thing, those claiming the moral high ground spouting holier than thou rhetoric can be disregarded as not part of serious debate.

Speaking for myself, I do care - just not as much as you. Why? Well, much as it would be nice to have a bigger pool of quality homegrown players to draw on, I don't completely accept your thesis, or at best see it as incomplete.
In addition, there's plenty of other things to care about as well IMO. For example, although we don't hear so much about it nowadays, and the new TV deal and/or North stand may help, we're still reliant on the generosity of our board to stop us going 'pop'. Bradford had the Burgess lads, Whitehead, Bateman and Donaldson coming through a few years ago and much good it did them.
On a more positive note, there's hopefully plenty of stuff to look forward to in the more immediate future.