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| Quote ="Sandra The Terrorist"Yes but sometimes you take your A game and the opposition only brings their B game, however, with teams like Warrington their B game is often enough to win the game despite you having brought your A game. This can then necessitate you having to swop to your C game, which can be as good as your A game but it involves a different plan. A good coach will know when and how to make the transition form A game to C game. The problem you then can have with teams like Warrington is that Tony Smith is a very good coach (despite wearing a diarrhoea coloured suit) and will spot that you've switched from A game to C game, he will then switch his team from B game to D game, thus negating you swithing from A game to C game. Indeed, teams like Warrington switching to their D game from their B game often results in them then bringing their A game, or AD game if you like. Often, even if your coach realises that the change from B game to D has lead a team like Warrington to bring their AD game and reverts to your A game this is still not enough and you will lose.'"
Good work.
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| Quote ="Sandra The Terrorist"Yes but sometimes you take your A game and the opposition only brings their B game, however, with teams like Warrington their B game is often enough to win the game despite you having brought your A game. This can then necessitate you having to swop to your C game, which can be as good as your A game but it involves a different plan. A good coach will know when and how to make the transition form A game to C game. The problem you then can have with teams like Warrington is that Tony Smith is a very good coach (despite wearing a diarrhoea coloured suit) and will spot that you've switched from A game to C game, he will then switch his team from B game to D game, thus negating you swithing from A game to C game. Indeed, teams like Warrington switching to their D game from their B game often results in them then bringing their A game, or AD game if you like. Often, even if your coach realises that the change from B game to D has lead a team like Warrington to bring their AD game and reverts to your A game this is still not enough and you will lose.'"
Blimy your good at maths or did you just dream that lot up you lost me on the second line good work
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| Quote ="Sandra The Terrorist"Yes but sometimes you take your A game and the opposition only brings their B game, however, with teams like Warrington their B game is often enough to win the game despite you having brought your A game. This can then necessitate you having to swop to your C game, which can be as good as your A game but it involves a different plan. A good coach will know when and how to make the transition form A game to C game. The problem you then can have with teams like Warrington is that Tony Smith is a very good coach (despite wearing a diarrhoea coloured suit) and will spot that you've switched from A game to C game, he will then switch his team from B game to D game, thus negating you swithing from A game to C game. Indeed, teams like Warrington switching to their D game from their B game often results in them then bringing their A game, or AD game if you like. Often, even if your coach realises that the change from B game to D has lead a team like Warrington to bring their AD game and reverts to your A game this is still not enough and you will lose.'"
Exactly.
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| So are we still in the cup then?
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"I look forward to you quoting where I said that we did. As a matter of fact we rarely take our A game anywhere at the moment.
Your post seemed to be more setting up the fact that if as an outside chance Hull win it will be nothing to do with Hull's performance but everything to do with Warrington's non-performance. In the unlikely event it were to happen I suppose it might make you feel better thinking that way.'"
Yet you have stated in your first line Cas, Wakey, Windes etc beating you had everything to do with your non-performance. I suppose it might make you feel better thinking that way.
Can't have it both ways.
I'm off now to try and wonder if we're better than Huddersfield then why we aren't at the top of the league????
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| Hull have shown an ability to occasionally raise their game for a one off match and no doubt they will give it their best shot.
But if Warrington defend like they did last week then I'd have to favour them. Hull can defend well too of course but Warrington have a lot of individuals who can change a game and it's very hard to contain all of them all game.
Whereas I don't think Hull have that kind of individual brilliance and if Warrington defend well then you wonder how Hull are going to break them down.
Last week Rovers were well in the game for 60 minutes and Hull may well do the same and whilst I don't think they'll fall away like Rovers did I think in the end they will not be able to keep Warrington out.
Should be a good game looking forward to it.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"I look forward to you quoting where I said that we did. As a matter of fact we rarely take our A game anywhere at the moment.
Your post seemed to be more setting up the fact that if as an outside chance Hull win it will be nothing to do with Hull's performance but everything to do with Warrington's non-performance. In the unlikely event it were to happen I suppose it might make you feel better thinking that way.'"
Cue the panic.
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| Quote ="barham red"Yet you have stated in your first line Cas, Wakey, Windes etc beating you had everything to do with your non-performance. I suppose it might make you feel better thinking that way.
Can't have it both ways.
I'm off now to try and wonder if we're better than Huddersfield then why we aren't at the top of the league????'"
No quote forthcoming ? Ah well.
Your theory is fine for golf/darts etc where it's not possible to physically affect how your opponent plays (although arguably it is possible to affect them mentally). In rugby that's clearly not the case. If we played Wire 10 times in the next 10 weeks they'd likely win 8 because over the long term (league) they are a better team than us. A bit like Hudds are better than you so don't spend too much time trying to wonder. But in one-off games it's possible for an underdog side to raise their game and as a result directly reduce the level their superior opposition plays at. If Briers attempts 10 kicks in open play on Sunday but Hull get off the line and and pressure him into 7 poor kicks/errors is that because he didn't bring his A game or is it because Hull prevented him from doing what he liked ?
The reality is that it isn't as cut and dried as Warrington 'bringing their A game'. There's lots of factors that input into any game that affect the result. You seem more nervous than me about Sunday somehow.
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| The lack of half backs for Hull is obviously a massive problem.
They clearly are capable of winning the game and if they turn up and do a job I certainly won't begrudge them.
I remember watching the 2005 semi final against Saints. At the time, Saints were white hot and I didn't give Hull a chance, but Brough and Cooke put in one of the most superb kicking performances that enabled Hull to execute a perfect game plan.
By the end of the game, Hull had played so well and nullified Saints to such an extent that I was genuinely pleased they'd won.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"No quote forthcoming ? Ah well.
Your theory is fine for golf/darts etc where it's not possible to physically affect how your opponent plays (although arguably it is possible to affect them mentally). In rugby that's clearly not the case. If we played Wire 10 times in the next 10 weeks they'd likely win 8 because over the long term (league) they are a better team than us. A bit like Hudds are better than you so don't spend too much time trying to wonder. But in one-off games it's possible for an underdog side to raise their game and as a result directly reduce the level their superior opposition plays at. If Briers attempts 10 kicks in open play on Sunday but Hull get off the line and and pressure him into 7 poor kicks/errors is that because he didn't bring his A game or is it because Hull prevented him from doing what he liked ?
The reality is that it isn't as cut and dried as Warrington 'bringing their A game'. There's lots of factors that input into any game that affect the result. You seem more nervous than me about Sunday somehow.'"
Not nervous at all, to be honest it doesn't really bother me either way, of course being on this isde of the fence I'd rather a wire win but it wont change my life either way.
The gripe I have is the constant referral to the win at Wire being the real Hull yet the last five games have been sub standard performances . On balance this year you are a team that will sneak wins built on defence but have too little in the middle and in attack to maintain any level of sustained challenge.
Suppose the game plan will be crucial and will come down to who executes that the best, I just wonder if you have the tools to execute a game plan that is needed.
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| Quote ="Sandra The Terrorist"The lack of half backs for Hull is obviously a massive problem.
They clearly are capable of winning the game and if they turn up and do a job I certainly won't begrudge them.
I remember watching the 2005 semi final against Saints. At the time, Saints were white hot and I didn't give Hull a chance, but Brough and Cooke put in one of the most superb kicking performances that enabled Hull to execute a perfect game plan.
By the end of the game, Hull had played so well and nullified Saints to such an extent that I was genuinely pleased they'd won.'"
You're right about half backs. Holdsworth hasn't exactly ripped it up with ball in hand but his kicking is superb and is capable of turning a close game in his team's favour.
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| Quote ="barham red"Not nervous at all, to be honest it doesn't really bother me either way, of course being on this isde of the fence I'd rather a wire win but it wont change my life either way.
The gripe I have is the constant referral to the win at Wire being the real Hull yet the last five games have been sub standard performances . On balance this year you are a team that will sneak wins built on defence but have too little in the middle and in attack to maintain any level of sustained challenge.
Suppose the game plan will be crucial and will come down to who executes that the best, I just wonder if you have the tools to execute a game plan that is needed.'"
That's a fair summary of us this year. I think our game plan will be based on scoot, kick long and defend in their half which is all easier said than done. It might well not be enough but it'll be clear within the first ten minutes whether Hull have any chance or not.
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| Quote ="barham red"Not nervous at all, to be honest it doesn't really bother me either way, of course being on this isde of the fence I'd rather a wire win but it wont change my life either way.
The gripe I have is the constant referral to the win at Wire being the real Hull yet the last five games have been sub standard performances . On balance this year you are a team that will sneak wins built on defence but have too little in the middle and in attack to maintain any level of sustained challenge.
Suppose the game plan will be crucial and will come down to who executes that the best, I just wonder if you have the tools to execute a game plan that is needed.'"
They've certainly got the tools. Quite a few of them come on here.
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| Quote ="roversmad"They've certainly got the tools. Quite a few of them live on here.'"
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| Quote ="Sandra The Terrorist"Yes but sometimes you take your A game and the opposition only brings their B game, however, with teams like Warrington their B game is often enough to win the game despite you having brought your A game. This can then necessitate you having to swop to your C game, which can be as good as your A game but it involves a different plan. A good coach will know when and how to make the transition form A game to C game. The problem you then can have with teams like Warrington is that Tony Smith is a very good coach (despite wearing a diarrhoea coloured suit) and will spot that you've switched from A game to C game, he will then switch his team from B game to D game, thus negating you swithing from A game to C game. Indeed, teams like Warrington switching to their D game from their B game often results in them then bringing their A game, or AD game if you like. Often, even if your coach realises that the change from B game to D has lead a team like Warrington to bring their AD game and reverts to your A game this is still not enough and you will lose.'"
You know this would all make sense IF we had a B game .. or a C .. or a D...
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| Well seeing as we do not need semi final tickets I'll draw an end to this.
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