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| Quote ="MagicCarlos"How does it work then with his injury cos Sandy reckoned he would miss 1 possibly 2 games anyway? Do they wait for him to be fit to start ban??'"
Not as far as I'm aware, otherwise we just say he's fit anyway. Can't see the RFL doing a medical on them.
Theoretically if he gets a 2 match ban h will only miss the games he's not fit for.
As for the 'tackle' it was poor but not malicious, very bad technique and a bit of a desperate swing. No where near as bad as Bailey's first one on Monday which had definite intent
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| Quote ="barham red"
As for the 'tackle' it was poor but not malicious, very bad technique and a bit of a desperate swing. No where near as bad as Bailey's first one on Monday which had definite intent'"
Given there's a 6" height discrepancy (Burns 5' 9" - Crooks 6' 3"icon_wink.gif suggest a little more than bad technique
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| Quote ="Legends and Icons"so its only bad tackle if you hurt the player
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Anyway its with the rfl now so lets all wait and see'"
no but if it was the worse tackle ever seen as so many as your fellow fans are pointing out then surely the player would have some kind of injury dont you agree ie it wasnt that bad
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| Quote ="MagicCarlos"How does it work then with his injury cos Sandy reckoned he would miss 1 possibly 2 games anyway? Do they wait for him to be fit to start ban??'"
why do you keep saying this of course they dont wait until hes fit it makes no difference whether hes injured or not
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| Has to plead guilty and hopefully settle for a one match ban.
In many ways he was lucky not to end up in the bin (at the very least) given the circumstances of the challenge. By no means a certainty but Hull looked likely to score until the high shot. Think it was Crooks' reaction that possibly helped him avoid any punishment at the time too. I don't think it was the worst high shot but it wasn't too clever either.
Also think the next time we have Ganson and we end up on a team warning - we remove Horne from the field for 10 mins. Twice now he's been put in the bin by Ganson for a 'high shot' being the one more and you're in the bin theory.
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| Quote ="☺East-Sard☺"Has to plead guilty and hopefully settle for a one match ban.
In many ways he was lucky not to end up in the bin (at the very least) given the circumstances of the challenge. By no means a certainty but Hull looked likely to score until the high shot. Think it was Crooks' reaction that possibly helped him avoid any punishment at the time too. I don't think it was the worst high shot but it wasn't too clever either.
Also think the next time we have Ganson and we end up on a team warning - we remove Horne from the field for 10 mins. Twice now he's been put in the bin by Ganson for a 'high shot' being the one more and you're in the bin theory.'"
Both of which were never high anyway, he was just unlucky.
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Didn't look that bad to me, thought he struck Crooks around the collar bone, penalty & talking to seemed sufficient. Tbf I have only seen one angle though, not sure if replays make it look worse.
Not understanding the disclipinary here. Burns has been summoned for a grade B but Ryan Bailey has the option of an early plea for a grade C?
www.superleague.co.uk/article/27 ... rs-charged
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Didn't look that bad to me, thought he struck Crooks around the collar bone, penalty & talking to seemed sufficient. Tbf I have only seen one angle though, not sure if replays make it look worse.
Not understanding the disclipinary here. Burns has been summoned for a grade B but Ryan Bailey has the option of an early plea for a grade C?
www.superleague.co.uk/article/27 ... rs-charged
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Dont think it matters on the offence grading (Grades A - C only though, the EGP is only allowed if you have not been up before the panel within the last 12 months
Quote Early Guilty Plea
A Player who has:
− been charged with an Offence of Grade A-C; and
− who has not been found guilty of any other charge of on field misconduct before the Tribunal,
or by submitting a previous Early Guilty Plea, in the 12 months preceding the date of the
Match in which the alleged Offence took place; and
− who has not been Cautioned for any other charge of on field misconduct in the 12 months
preceding the date of the Match in which the alleged Offence took place;
may elect to make an Early Guilty Plea by informing the RFL Operations department of his
intention to do so before 11.00 am on the day of any scheduled hearing. This will result in the
lower end of the suspension range for the Grade of Offence set out in the Charge Letter being
imposed (i.e. for a Grade B offence a one match suspension will be imposed).
A player making such an Early Guilty Plea will not be subject to any fine but will forfeit the right to
any hearing. For the avoidance of doubt the right to make an Early Guilty Plea only applies to
initial hearings and not to any appeal hearing. '"
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Dont think it matters on the offence grading (Grades A - C only though, the EGP is only allowed if you have not been up before the panel within the last 12 months
Quote Early Guilty Plea
A Player who has:
− been charged with an Offence of Grade A-C; and
− who has not been found guilty of any other charge of on field misconduct before the Tribunal,
or by submitting a previous Early Guilty Plea, in the 12 months preceding the date of the
Match in which the alleged Offence took place; and
− who has not been Cautioned for any other charge of on field misconduct in the 12 months
preceding the date of the Match in which the alleged Offence took place;
may elect to make an Early Guilty Plea by informing the RFL Operations department of his
intention to do so before 11.00 am on the day of any scheduled hearing. This will result in the
lower end of the suspension range for the Grade of Offence set out in the Charge Letter being
imposed (i.e. for a Grade B offence a one match suspension will be imposed).
A player making such an Early Guilty Plea will not be subject to any fine but will forfeit the right to
any hearing. For the avoidance of doubt the right to make an Early Guilty Plea only applies to
initial hearings and not to any appeal hearing. '"
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Quote ="Wildmoose"Didn't look that bad to me, thought he struck Crooks around the collar bone, penalty & talking to seemed sufficient. Tbf I have only seen one angle though, not sure if replays make it look worse.
Not understanding the disclipinary here. Burns has been summoned for a grade B but Ryan Bailey has the option of an early plea for a grade C?
www.superleague.co.uk/article/27 ... rs-charged'"
I suggest you watch it again.
Initial impact is with the temple (and Crooks is a TALL lad) and ends up around his neck.
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Quote ="Wildmoose"Didn't look that bad to me, thought he struck Crooks around the collar bone, penalty & talking to seemed sufficient. Tbf I have only seen one angle though, not sure if replays make it look worse.
Not understanding the disclipinary here. Burns has been summoned for a grade B but Ryan Bailey has the option of an early plea for a grade C?
www.superleague.co.uk/article/27 ... rs-charged'"
I suggest you watch it again.
Initial impact is with the temple (and Crooks is a TALL lad) and ends up around his neck.
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| Quote ="davey37"I suggest you watch it again.
Initial impact is with the temple (and Crooks is a TALL lad) and ends up around his neck.'"
So, depending on which club you support it is either:
a) nothing in it, penalty sufficient
b) worst tackle ever, sine die
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| Quote ="rover49"So, depending on which club you support it is either:
a) nothing in it, penalty sufficient
b) worst tackle ever, sine die'"
Well lets see what the disciplinary lot say. If he cops a ban then we're right. If not, then you are. Can't say fairer than that.
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Quote ="davey37"Quote ="Wildmoose"Didn't look that bad to me, thought he struck Crooks around the collar bone, penalty & talking to seemed sufficient. Tbf I have only seen one angle though, not sure if replays make it look worse.
Not understanding the disclipinary here. Burns has been summoned for a grade B but Ryan Bailey has the option of an early plea for a grade C?
www.superleague.co.uk/article/27 ... rs-charged'"
I suggest you watch it again.
Initial impact is with the temple (and Crooks is a TALL lad) and ends up around his neck.'"
As I stated I've only seen one angle (the high camera on halfway). This is the only angle on Rovers tv, SL highlights don't show the tackle & SL show isn't on iplayer yet. Pretty inconclusive based on that, need more of a front on view.
Travis' arm is swinging horizontal / upwards & Crooks is falling so how does the contact start at the temple & end round the neck?
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Quote ="davey37"Quote ="Wildmoose"Didn't look that bad to me, thought he struck Crooks around the collar bone, penalty & talking to seemed sufficient. Tbf I have only seen one angle though, not sure if replays make it look worse.
Not understanding the disclipinary here. Burns has been summoned for a grade B but Ryan Bailey has the option of an early plea for a grade C?
www.superleague.co.uk/article/27 ... rs-charged'"
I suggest you watch it again.
Initial impact is with the temple (and Crooks is a TALL lad) and ends up around his neck.'"
As I stated I've only seen one angle (the high camera on halfway). This is the only angle on Rovers tv, SL highlights don't show the tackle & SL show isn't on iplayer yet. Pretty inconclusive based on that, need more of a front on view.
Travis' arm is swinging horizontal / upwards & Crooks is falling so how does the contact start at the temple & end round the neck?
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"Well lets see what the disciplinary lot say. If he cops a ban then we're right. If not, then you are. Can't say fairer than that.'"
Nowt like sitting on the fence
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| Quote ="gingerspice"Nowt like sitting on the fence
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You know me Ginge. As fair as they come!!
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"You know me Ginge. As fair as they come!!'"
That is very true
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| 2 match ban, will miss St Helens and Huddersfield games.
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| Wasn't the worst tackle but looked pretty malicious the way he swung his arm around and hit crooks in the head. Certainly was never an attempt at a legitimate tackle and he knew what he was doing. He has previous for it so no surprise it's coming out here already. Still, I'm guessing he's probably wishing ganson did send him off
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| Quote ="rover49"So, depending on which club you support it is either:
a) nothing in it, penalty sufficient
b) worst tackle ever, sine die'"
I have not seen one FC fan claim it to be the worst tackle EVER despite what some of you claim.
However, it was bad and should have been punished properly by Ganson.
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| Quote ="Wildmoose"As I stated I've only seen one angle (the high camera on halfway). This is the only angle on Rovers tv, SL highlights don't show the tackle & SL show isn't on iplayer yet. Pretty inconclusive based on that, need more of a front on view.
Travis' arm is swinging horizontal / upwards & Crooks is falling so how does the contact start at the temple & end round the neck?'"
Fair enough.
Best/worst camera is sky's in SE corner.
Shows how bad it is. And Crooks was NOT falling.
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| Haven't watched it since, at the time on SKY I thought he was lucky not to get sent off and was a minimum yellow.
I felt he got neither at the time because Ganson was too fat to keep up and get a decent view of the incident.
Two games is what's deserved. I'm not sure you can do that maliciously at that speed, if he can he'll spend most of his time in the stands, it was certainly a bad one but not the worst I've seen. Worst one in recent memory for me was Mathers on King a few years ago.
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| kr fans saying nothing wrong with it how come hes got a 2 match ban???
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"no but if it was the worse tackle ever seen as so many as your fellow fans are pointing out then surely the player would have some kind of injury dont you agree ie it wasnt that bad'"
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"kr fans saying nothing wrong with it how come hes got a 2 match ban???'"
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| Quote ="coatsy"What all of them?
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"kr fans saying nothing wrong with it how come hes got a 2 match ban???'"
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