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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"Think you'd be wrong.'"
Lets hope we're never in a situation to find out either way eh.
Just heard pearson say on the radio that all three clubs in the city will be completely seperate entities for evermore, never had any doubts myself.
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| east hull would see a big increase in fans, me been one of them thats for sure.
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| Quote ="rover49"Allam is not a shareholder of Rovers, he gave/lent the club some money...'"
Allam is a creditor to Hull KR to the tune of £1M (plus a lot more - if many of the earlier reports were to be believed). If he recalled that debt tomorrow (or next week, when the franchise announcements are made ) then you would have little choice but to
a) find the money PDQ from elsewhere
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c) dance to whatever tune he decides to sing.
I did warn you all at the time....but you weren't listening...
For the first time - I'm with Roverswall. He's the only one showing a bit of common sense and insight with this - more people would do well to listen to him.
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| If for instance rovers sold out to someone affilliated to AA my obvious guess would be one rugby club in the city Mr hudgell alresdy has his name on one stand of the KC Adam pearson on another?
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| Quote ="Knockershero"If for instance rovers sold out to someone affilliated to AA my obvious guess would be one rugby club in the city Mr hudgell alresdy has his name on one stand of the KC Adam pearson on another?'"
My guess is - as we've had repeated assurances of "no merger" - is Rovers're moving to the KC.
Anyone know if the North Stand works are still pending?
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| Quote ="WormInHand"My guess is - as we've had repeated assurances of "no merger" - is Rovers're moving to the KC.
Anyone know if the North Stand works are still pending?'"
3 clubs within the stadium could give Assem Allam a reasonable bargaining chip I suppose.
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| Quote ="tonylRobin"damn i wish id listened to you now, i could have stopped his investment.......
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Loan . It's the crucial point, really.
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| Quote ="WormInHand"My guess is - as we've had repeated assurances of "no merger" - is Rovers're moving to the KC.
Anyone know if the North Stand works are still pending?'" Or FC move to NCP so AA can have the KC all to city's self.
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| Pearson also slipped in blindside that there would have to be "negotiations with HMRC in the future"
Why?
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| Quote ="Vicenzo"Pearson also slipped in blindside that there would have to be "negotiations with HMRC in the future"
Why?'"
something to do with EBT's, it's a tax fiddle to pay high saleries, loop hole was closed not so long back, they may have a little bit of tax to pay. good news is there maybe another loop hole opening
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| Quote ="Vicenzo"Pearson also slipped in blindside that there would have to be "negotiations with HMRC in the future"
Why?'"
Now then Vince, long time no see. Hope you are well.
Its the off shore tax accounts that the Anzac players would be a bundle dropped into when they left the country. HMRC have been investigating the practice for literally years across many sports not just RL.
Would be a bit harsh if they retrospectively charged companies. But then again, these are politician
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| Quote ="Roverswall"Or FC move to NCP so AA can have the KC all to city's self.'"
Now you're being silly again.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"Now then Vince, long time no see. Hope you are well.
Its the off shore tax accounts that the Anzac players would be a bundle dropped into when they left the country. HMRC have been investigating the practice for literally years across many sports not just RL.
Would be a bit harsh if they retrospectively charged companies. But then again, these are politician
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[iHow[/i many Antipodeans do Rovers have?
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"Now then Vince, long time no see. Hope you are well.
Its the off shore tax accounts that the Anzac players would be a bundle dropped into when they left the country. HMRC have been investigating the practice for literally years across many sports not just RL.
Would be a bit harsh if they retrospectively charged companies. But then again, these are politician
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Would love to have banter on your boards but it has been made clear that I am banned "sine die".
Never make any of the admin.look fools is my tip!
There is,without doubt, more to this than meets the eye. I have heard he has paid £3 million for the club!!!I think they mean Embassy coupons (do they still have them?) The next few weeks will be interesting for sure.
Nice to be in touch again!
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| Quote ="WormInHand"Allam is a creditor to Hull KR to the tune of £1M (plus a lot more - if many of the earlier reports were to be believed). If he recalled that debt tomorrow (or next week, when the franchise announcements are made
) then you would have little choice but to
a) find the money PDQ from elsewhere
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c) dance to whatever tune he decides to sing.
I did warn you all at the time....but you weren't listening...
For the first time - I'm with Roverswall. He's the only one showing a bit of common sense and insight with this - more people would do well to listen to him.'"
You are completely wrong.
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| Quote ="WormInHand"Now you're being silly again.'" Not really.
NCP will hold about 13ish when the north and east are done (funding in place so for free for AA), All he needs to worry about is funding a new south stand and he gets his little RL ground for both FC and KR.
He can then get on with making his football club a premiership club with a football only stadium (The prem DO want this) and he can do with it what ever he wants.
There is little need for him to touch us if NCP isn't in his plans
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| Quote ="His Bobness"You are completely wrong.'"
How?
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| Quote ="Vicenzo"Would love to have banter on your boards but it has been made clear that I am banned "sine die".
Never make any of the admin.look fools is my tip!
There is,without doubt, more to this than meets the eye. I have heard he has paid £3 million for the club!!!I think they mean Embassy coupons (do they still have them?) The next few weeks will be interesting for sure.
Nice to be in touch again!'"
So, by "slipped in on the blindside" did you really mean "he clearly stated in his press release" : [i"Hull FC has one major financial challenge to overcome from what has been a very well run era over the last 10 years. That challenge is the legacy of EBT payments to players which was prohibited by changes in government legislation in late 2010.This has left the club with a very significant potential tax liability which I will have to examine in detail over the coming months and find a solution for."[/i
We apparently, unlike other SL clubs have no issues over image rights. We have also, during most of that 10 year period managed to show a net profit (and before you start, that has absolutely nothing to do with capitalising players). The rules governing EBT have changed over the years and unless Hull FC have been found to evade taxation under prevailing rules, it's highly unlikely that HMRC would make a credible case for retrospective action.
I'm quite comfortable with knowing that Adam Pearson is first & foremost a businessman and would not have even considered entering into a takeover without an appreciation of worse-case scenario regarding potential HMRC liabilities.
How are you club's debts racking up at the moment?
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| Quote ="Roverswall"Not really.
NCP will hold about 13ish when the north and east are done (funding in place so for free for AA), All he needs to worry about is funding a new south stand and he gets his little RL ground for both FC and KR.
He can then get on with making his football club a premiership club with a football only stadium (The prem DO want this) and he can do with it what ever he wants.
There is little need for him to touch us if NCP isn't in his plans'"
Ok then, ahemm "Darth". {S}
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| Quote ="Roverswall"Not really.
NCP will hold about 13ish when the north and east are done (funding in place so for free for AA), All he needs to worry about is funding a new south stand and he gets his little RL ground for both FC and KR.
He can then get on with making his football club a premiership club with a football only stadium (The prem DO want this) and he can do with it what ever he wants.
There is little need for him to touch us if NCP isn't in his plans'"
Maybe, but he still has to:
1. Persuade KUHCC to sell him the KC
2. get City back into the Premiership.
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| I think Pearson will want us all to get on but that is stupid. Rovers will never get on with Hull FC or Hull FC with Rovers. I dont care what happens over there. Pearson is a known lurker, waiting for a chance to make a profit. Paying off £2.75 million worth of debts is not an investment he will have done to make his money back through rugby, so the motive is very much linked with football. feel its the begining of the end of FC at the KC.
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| Quote ="pugwash pal"I think Pearson will want us all to get but that in its self is stupid. Rovers will never get on with Hull FC of Hull FC with Rovers. I dont care what happens over there. Pearson is a known lurker, waiting for a chance to make a profit. Paying off £2.75 million worth of debts is not an investment he will have done to make his money back through rugby, so the motive is very much linked with football. feel its the begining of the end of FC at the KC.'" I'm loving this. Any more negativety anyone?
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| Quote ="pugwash pal"I think Pearson will want us all to get but that in its self is stupid. Rovers will never get on with Hull FC of Hull FC with Rovers. I dont care what happens over there. Pearson is a known lurker, waiting for a chance to make a profit. Paying off £2.75 million worth of debts is not an investment he will have done to make his money back through rugby, so the motive is very much linked with football. feel its the begining of the end of FC at the KC.'"
Do you need some foil for that crack?
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| Quote ="pugwash pal"I think Pearson will want us all to get but that in its self is stupid. Rovers will never get on with Hull FC of Hull FC with Rovers. I dont care what happens over there. [uPearson is a known lurker[/u, waiting for a chance to make a profit. Paying off £2.75 million worth of debts is not an investment he will have done to make his money back through rugby, so the motive is very much linked with football. feel its the begining of the end of FC at the KC.'"
Says a fan whose chairman is an ambulance chaser
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