Spot on Paul. He was never singled out by the fans for stick it's a complete myth. I like Craig and hope he becomes a success at Rovers, I just don't see it happening, his decision making is poor and he can't shrug off the errors which just causes him to make even more. I don't think he deals with pressure well at all.

Did seem that there was a Craig Hall thread after every other defeat that he played in.

Most players get a thread if they have had a poor game or a good game. It's what the forum is for, discussing the team and players. I don't think Craig ever got any unfair criticism and I don't recall him ever being blamed for a defeat by anyone. He also had threads praising him when he played well.

I'd say you're wrong on both counts TBH.

I can tell you now, there is no problem between Hall and the coaching staff other than the usual performance assessments, which on occasion will quite rightly have been critical. I gather he has got vocal in his upset in the past. But ask any fan, of any club if they mind their coaching staff giving players a kick up the backside once in a while - and my god, does Hall need it.

Quote ="Kosh"I'd say you're wrong on both counts TBH.'" Indeed Kosh viewtopic.php?f=34&t=453477&hilit=craig+hall Quote ="Kosh"I really hope Craig leaves at the end of the season and finds a club with a coach who knows how to use him and fans who aren't obsessed with pinning team failures on individual players.'"

Quote ="Kosh"I'd say you're wrong on both counts TBH.'" Indeed Kosh viewtopic.php?f=34&t=453477&hilit=craig+hall Quote ="Kosh"I really hope Craig leaves at the end of the season and finds a club with a coach who knows how to use him and fans who aren't obsessed with pinning team failures on individual players.'"

Quote ="Easty"Indeed Kosh viewtopic.php?f=34&t=453477&hilit=craig+hall '" Firstly, that thread is common across all boards when a player has had a bad game. Its certainly not a victimisation like some are suggesting. Secondly, that's got to be a worrying thread to read if your a Hull KR fan.

Quote ="Easty"Indeed Kosh viewtopic.php?f=34&t=453477&hilit=craig+hall '" Firstly, that thread is common across all boards when a player has had a bad game. Its certainly not a victimisation like some are suggesting. Secondly, that's got to be a worrying thread to read if your a Hull KR fan.

Think alot of fans think Hall is a good signing and there are a few fans that think it's a bad one. I'm in the middle. I'll support Craig Hall 100% whilst he wears the shirt of Hull KR but i'm undecided on who the signing will pan out. All will be reveiled in 12 months I'm sure..

Like I said if he gets upset by a thread on the internet then he should not be playing professional sport.

Clearly this is that case.
I mean Agar went through a phase where he went out of his way to slate Yeaman and Horne as examples like he did Hall.........................Oh wait no he didn't.

Pick a straw, any straw.

And you keep turning that blind eye.

Quote ="Easty"Indeed Kosh viewtopic.php?f=34&t=453477&hilit=craig+hall '" Errrr so from that thread what part of the criticism is unfair or indeed wrong? Could you also point out a single post that blames the defeat on Hall? Its complete bollox to suggest Hall was the victim of some sort of hate campaign. In fact their is even a neutral who posts on that thread who makes the same comments. He has had plenty of opportunites to prove himself and he just hasn't done it, people can make all the excuses they want but he has to take some responsibility aswell.

Quote ="Easty"Indeed Kosh viewtopic.php?f=34&t=453477&hilit=craig+hall '" Errrr so from that thread what part of the criticism is unfair or indeed wrong? Could you also point out a single post that blames the defeat on Hall? Its complete bollox to suggest Hall was the victim of some sort of hate campaign. In fact their is even a neutral who posts on that thread who makes the same comments. He has had plenty of opportunites to prove himself and he just hasn't done it, people can make all the excuses they want but he has to take some responsibility aswell.

You got all that from such a little post of mine. How sad.

Got all what? 3 Lines of text? You get worse

As opposed to my 2 words on the whole subject



94 words V's my 2 words

As a Saints fan who remembers seeing Hall take on, and tear Folau a new derrier in the academy series a few years back, i have to say i have been very dissapointed with his development.

He appears to have heeps of natural ability, but for some reason it hasnt been chanelled right.

Looking at the poor record in Hull of actually developing talent to their full potential, i think its more the coaching(or lack of) at Hull FC than the individual themselves.

I actually fear that Tom Briscoe will stagnate and become just another big lump on the wing, when he should become a world class player.

Hopefully Hull KR with a decent aussie coach at the reigns will be able to iron out Halls rough edges. If he does, then you will have potentially the best centre in Britain on your books.
Certainly i think he will benefit more from Hull KRs footballing philosophy, rather than the dour 5 drives and a kick, hope for the opposition to make a mistake Rugby employed by Agar.

100% agree.

Briscoe has bags of potential, but (colours aside) if he stays at Hull FC, he will become nothing but a good player, when he could easily become a world class player.

In my opinion, if he knows what is best for him, he will not be at Hull in 3 yrs time.

However, having heard him talk in a couple of interviews, he has a high opinion of himself already, so maybe he is willing to settle for where he is at now.

Briscoe made the right decision staying at Hull (I'm assuming he had other offers or would have had if he'd been free). He's still a boy and needs some stability to allow him to develop, he seems to do well in the FC set up and he's getting noticed as is seen from his england call ups. No doubt he'll make his mind up if he feels the environment is still good for him at the end of his current contract and make a decision then.

Hall for whatever reason hasn't come on as he looked like he should have, this may be to do with the set up at FC, the fact hes not had a settled starting position or maybe he's not good enough. No doubt we'll see in the next year or two. He's not going to be a starting 3 or 4 for us so anyone expecting him to come on a tear trees up may be disappointed. Ratu came with the potential Hall has and he's not set the world alight yet, maybe hes been unlucky with injuries but is he now cast aside.

I remember Scott Moore doing similar to the aussies and being described as the next big thing at SH for Saints. However it never happened and now he is a hooker, average one at that.

Not every player develops how people think they will.

What exactly is your point?

Oppps have I said too much?

What year was that Paul?

I can't remember, think him and Tommy Lee were in the same side too?

Yes

Eh? Scott Moore is far from average and I rate him higher than Houghton. Moore has England caps and is more versatile, can cover the halves and loose forward and is an all round better player. I'd have him at Rovers tomorrow if I could.