Good to hear that they is no substance to the rumours. It might be FC playing games.......

I'm pretty sure the oakes rumour started on here

Typo fixed for you there Jake.

About right I think. Amazing how much stuff I make up and post on here gets told to me as fact a few weeks later

And I thought you was thick maybe not but I doubt it

You thought I was thick? Do you now realise I am a genius? I'm not sure someone with your limited grasp of the queen's English should be suggesting anyone else is thick

don't be catty

So apparently Kr will talk to Huddersfield and hull end of season if we get promoted to keep Ellis and Abdul, for me defo Abdul. But not Ellis he frustrates the hell out of me.. you can see he has great skills but he doesn't give 100%. He looks like he holds a bit back.. his kicking goals has gone off boil after not beating the record.. and his positional play sometimes lacks. But saying that he stepped up lost weekend

Ellis players better when we turn the ball outside rather than back into the ruck, ala Sunday, Leigh etc he also looks better when the game speed is higher.
But I share your frustration with his body language. He looks like he's just "going through the motions" as apposed to say ZDC who looks like the duracell bunny.

I think if we do keep them they will be back up to 2 better players if we go up

I think the only way we get Oakes if Rovers wanted someone off us (Abdul?)

Think the only way Abdul will leave Hull is fr starting rugby (which I do him getting at hull next year), so he would have to be promised that at Rovers.

I'm sure Hull would consider £30k or so plus oakes for abdul. I think connor has filled the slot that abdul would have been eyeing at Hull

No coach would promise a starting slot and no player worth his salt would expect that.

Are you in Radford's confidence then or did you just pick that statement out of the air?

I don't know what any of the three parties want to do next year but Abdul's wishes whatever they are will be important. At least he can make a decision based on his experiences at the two clubs. The clubs will also have their opinions on what he is worth.

FC are not in a position to pursue Oakes as he has a long term contract with Rovers. I have not seen anywhere that FC have expressed an interest. They could be in trouble if they do.

The oakes rumour is made up. It is such a good made up one that even the wail are referring to it now.

Abdul has a long term contract at Hull so he'll do what hull want

Oakes will be a superstar for us in the coming years. No way would Hudge sell him to our grubby rivals. It's up to them (FC) to unearth an Oakes instead of looking in our direction.
But by all means, sit and watch how good this kid will become, keep your Brad fashs' and the likes, we've got some right good kids coming through.

IMO Abdull will remain a Rovers player in 2018 on another season loan.

Rovers won't pay a transfer fee and Hull won't have room on their salary cap so it will suit both parties.

Unearth an oakes? You mean there's another one playing in the wakefield academy? We all know that if oakes turns out to be any good he won't be in east hull for very long

The SL SC is going up by £200k next year so Hull will be fine

I think you mean Hull might offer Abdul and £150,000 for Oakes Jake...the kid has the potential to be a top line international player, with the greatest respect to Abdul that is never going to be the case for him.

One of the most puzzling aspects of Sheen's team picks this season has been Shaw been picked every week and Oakes only now and then. I know he is only 18 but he is a definite future international prospect who will be very very good very quickly, whereas Shaw is your archetypal journeyman on his sixth club who is as good now as he is ever going to be and is nigh on 25...

Oakes scores for fun in the academy and is clearly too good for that yet is underused whilst Rovers are in a league open to bringing youngsters through. Cannot fathom the thinking...

I think and hope tim knows what he is doing lets leave it to him

26,000 posts=1 sad bustard

Shaw reminds me of Jamie foster when he looked great at saints but never found next level.competent but not stand out. Saying that Talanoa has done ok with similar ability. Our team has suddenly started to look decent in forwards and outside backs but same issues remain in half's. Ellis has more natural ability but Abdull has consistently performed and trimmed down . attitude looks spot on.The real issue is us as a team going into a season desperate for promotion with 2 main pivots loan players who aren't deemed good enough for their respective teams to play in the league we are aspiring towards.We need a real general more than anything else. Ideally a half and a Fifita type if we signing 2 more but a Dobson/Chisholm style half is the final piece I think

Also nice His Bobness posting again .Welcome back

Hope we keep Abdul. Masses of potential. Up to now second for player of the year behind Lunt who has been outstanding.
Abdul was our best player at Leigh and went well at Salford. He is a running half back (12 tries this year and plenty of breaks).
I get the disappointment of not seeing Oakes more in the first team. However he's played first team and looked good. He's 18 and needs protecting. Sheens has coached and developed some of the games greats (Clyde, Stewart, Marshall etc). I think he knows what he's doing.