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| Quote ="Hutchie"1) VR was spot on, on all decisions
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4) Its sad to see the decline of Shaun Briscoe
5) Murell got put on his 'arris more times than Frank Bruno'"
Well you got no. 4 right anyway. Think the man has been too brave for his own good in the past, too many blows to the head and face he doesn't put his body on the line quite like he did which was his main asset.
Don't say I blame him there's a lot of life after a Rugby League career. When he retires maybe he will get his nose fixed, there's not a lot of point while he's still playing Rugby League!
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"Kind of irellevant. Sky were there and even my B/W brother-in-law rang me at half time and said it was a travesty.'"
And as a B/W I am with your brother-in-law.
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| Quote ="barton baird"You`ve put the mockers on it now bud.'"
Hey, we've had that for 2 years.... I'm using it when possible, even if it comes back and bites my !!!
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| Quote ="kathy kirk"And as a B/W I am with your brother-in-law.'"
That's how rumours start.... His wife won't be happy about this!!
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"You didn't shut down Tomkins, cockle. The scoreline though was very misleading and Rovers deserved a smaller losing margin. What do you think of Hodgson? I don't see much of him, but he seems to be a bit of a scapegoat along with Netherton and was a bit poor tonight. Also he shoved Horne in the back unnecessarily when Briscoe scored the final try at the KC derby, so he's on my naughty step.
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I know you weren't asking me as such but netherton is a scapegoat to a certain extent although he's not the most exciting player in the world where as hodgson just isn't good enough and the big difference between the two is that hodgson plays in a position that is far too important to have a player in who isnt good enough. I Realise this answer may give you reason to feel smug (we got hodgson from you) but I'm not bothered about that just interested in proper debate about the game, players etc.
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| Quote ="stew"h025.gif I know you weren't asking me as such but netherton is a scapegoat to a certain extent although he's not the most exciting player in the world where as hodgson just isn't good enough and the big difference between the two is that hodgson plays in a position that is far too important to have a player in who isnt good enough. I Realise this answer may give you reason to feel smug (we got hodgson from you) but I'm not bothered about that just interested in proper debate about the game, players etc.'"
I must admit, of all of the players that you've had from us, i thought Hodgson would be the biggest miss on our part and would haunt us the most. Particularly after Berro went.
In hindsight, and it's in no way trying to sound smug, he is simply not good enough for this level yet.. He cost you the derby game at Craven Park (with the knock on IIRC) and on the TV games i've seen i can't recall him having a good game. For a hooker this is unacceptable!!
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"You didn't shut down Tomkins, cockle. The scoreline though was very misleading and Rovers deserved a smaller losing margin. What do you think of Hodgson? I don't see much of him, but he seems to be a bit of a scapegoat along with Netherton and was a bit poor tonight. Also he shoved Horne in the back unnecessarily when Briscoe scored the final try at the KC derby, so he's on my naughty step.
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Yes you can keep your spear tackles and chicken wings and your Yeaman assaults to the head. It's the shove in the back that rugby league needs to clamp down on.
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| Quote ="FC Wembley 08"I must admit, of all of the players that you've had from us, i thought Hodgson would be the biggest miss on our part and would haunt us the most. Particularly after Berro went.
In hindsight, and it's in no way trying to sound smug, he is simply not good enough for this level yet.. He cost you the derby game at Craven Park (with the knock on IIRC) and on the TV games i've seen i can't recall him having a good game. For a hooker this is unacceptable!!'"
Unfortunately (for me) I agree with you.
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| Quote ="pmh"Who would we get that would be a better coach than Morgan at the moment?
I'll answer for you. No one.
He's the best coach we possibly could have at the moment. You'd think that fans of a team that had been in the doldrums since the late eighties would appreciate a bloke who's come in and turned us around into a team that's perhaps two or three seasons away from major honours.
Or maybe you're a fool.'"
I agree... but 5 and 10 is poor, there is no disguising that. Having seen Warrington, Hudds and Wigan this weekend, they're playing on another level - and you have to wonder whether Morgan can become a Smith, a Maguire or a Brown, or is now looking more like an Agar or McDermott. He doesn't even have the excuse of being British!
2009 turned out, pretty definitively to be this squad's peak year - we need to rebuild, and it'll be have to be done mainly by developing rather than 'buying' them in this time. 1 bad year after 5 good ones, isn't a cause for sacking IMO (which is worth very little in the grand scheme of course). And you learn more in adversity than you do from success, so I'd be happy to give Morgan time to rebuild. But I can't laugh at those calling for a new broom when we've not won in SL away from home and have only beaten one team with a winning record (currently) all season. On the other hand, take out smarty pants Wire, Hudds and Wigan and we're 5W, 6L - amongst the second raters, we're pretty average!
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| Quote ="His Bobness"Yes you can keep your spear tackles and chicken wings and your [uYeaman assaults to the head[/u. It's the shove in the back that rugby league needs to clamp down on.'"
That suggests pre-meditated thuggery, in which case he'll take his deserved punishment with a 2-3 match ban.
I think you're de-railing a bit. Hodgson is a Rovers player until the end of 2013. Some fans are scapegoating him somewhat. He was poor today. That's not to say he won't realise his full potential as predicted now he's under a better coach than when at FC. So the question in terms of hooker is whether Fisher will be retained or not, I suppose.
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| Quote ="His Bobness"Yes you can keep your spear tackles and chicken wings and your Yeaman assaults to the head. It's the shove in the back that rugby league needs to clamp down on.'"
Don't really think Rovers are in a position to complain about 'assaults to the head' are they.... Especially legal tackles (opinion of BOTH coaches) in which the injured player got himself into awkward position before a good hard hit up!!!
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"I agree... but 5 and 10 is poor, there is no disguising that. Having seen Warrington, Hudds and Wigan this weekend, they're playing on another level - and you have to wonder whether Morgan can become a Smith, a Maguire or a Brown, or is now looking more like an Agar or McDermott. He doesn't even have the excuse of being British!
2009 turned out, pretty definitively to be this squad's peak year - we need to rebuild, and it'll be have to be done mainly by developing rather than 'buying' them in this time. 1 bad year after 5 good ones, isn't a cause for sacking IMO (which is worth very little in the grand scheme of course). And you learn more in adversity than you do from success, so I'd be happy to give Morgan time to rebuild. But I can't laugh at those calling for a new broom when we've not won in SL away from home and have only beaten one team with a winning record (currently) all season. On the other hand, take out smarty pants Wire, Hudds and Wigan and we're 5W, 6L - amongst the second raters, we're pretty average!
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Well he is a scientist, so one presumes he's analysed things. On an extrapolating curve, will Morgan be here or there next season, MR?
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"yep but me and him agreed if it was fc or rovers it would be NO try. '"
Like against Cas last season you mean?
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He was checking onside/offside at the kick. Seemed perfectly reasonable to me. Wish refs would do this more often in fact.
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| lol and thaler even checked for the grounding !!!!!
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"Too slow at play the ball, its like you get off me first then i'll get up. No imagination in attack, same plays and then a dobson or green kick in behind and go fetch.
Hodgson was garbage, Lovegrove was garbage, Webster was garbage but realised it and went off injured. Netherton made his usual 10 metres and nothing else. Briscoe past it, Clinton so disgusted nobody was even looking when he offloaded a beauty went off injured.
Are Taylor and Watts injured? if not Morgan doesnt have a clue.
Positives.........get back to you.'"
A bit harsh I would say. After 10 mins it looked like it would be a cricket score but you hung in and were still in touch with an hour gone. They ran away with it late on but the effort was there.
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| Rovers were not that bad tonight. We were well in the arm wrestle for an hour but we were totally undone by losing Webster and Clinton. Effectively this robbed us of 2 props as Lovegrove went to centre. The interchange was therefore knackered and lovegrove was caught out positionally out wide.
Wigan are a class above us and everyone in rugby knew it before today.
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| I thought that we did well to get back into the game after going 12-0 down and I thought that the final score was harsh. Biriscoe was poor and all over the place with some of the kicks but Wigans defence was superb, I can't remember them missing a tackle.
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| Quote ="EL CAMO"Rovers were not that bad tonight. We were well in the arm wrestle for an hour but we were totally undone by losing Webster and Clinton. Effectively this robbed us of 2 props as Lovegrove went to centre. The interchange was therefore knackered and lovegrove was caught out positionally out wide.
Wigan are a class above us and everyone in rugby knew it before today.
Your knee-jerk reactions to a game that looks much worse than it was are boring and embarrassing.'"
You must be the sort of bloke that thinks Derek Acorah is genuine....
Thankfully the board are asking how 1.7 million pounds of their money didnt know how to play anything other than five drives and a poor kick against a stuttering Wigan side there for the taking..a Wigan side that cost the same as our overpaid shower...what do we do in our 30 hours of training every week..???, we certainly do not waste any time practising attacking moves....our rugby is turgid, boring and mind-numbing...
If Wigan were on any sort of form it would have been 70.....and yet their team costs as much as ours...in fact the team they had out tonight cost less...
Its about time some players came clean or grew a conscience...
Vella wants 130 for another year, we turned down Carvell for 105.., too english.., we are paying, and built the team around, two reserve halfbacks who couldnt run a darts team never mind a challenging SL club, nearly 200.., we could have had Lockyer.., (hopefully 1 of them is leaving with JM..).., we are paying Joel Clinton what is working out to be approx £1000 every ten minute spell he does on the pitch , good value or what..??? We are paying three other second grade Aussies £250,000 between them...good value..??? Ben Galea i exempt from all criticism , a fantastic servant..and not robbed us., we are paying a second rate , found out, one set of six, coach £185,000 and perks per year....no wonder he wants to stay forever...
Its time to wise up or flounder for many years...and Hudgy baby and his cuddle crew will have wasted millions on nothing...hope they feel good about it...
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| Just a couple of things Larry.
How are you spending 1.7m?
Carvell back to the hull area? You sure?
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| A bit harsh larry, but , the time has come for some good servants over the last few years to realise their time is up!
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| Quote ="Larry Billey"You must be the sort of bloke that thinks Derek Acorah is genuine....
Thankfully the board are asking how 1.7 million pounds of their money didnt know how to play anything other than five drives and a poor kick against a stuttering Wigan side there for the taking..a Wigan side that cost the same as our overpaid shower...what do we do in our 30 hours of training every week..???, we certainly do not waste any time practising attacking moves....our rugby is turgid, boring and mind-numbing...
If Wigan were on any sort of form it would have been 70.....and yet their team costs as much as ours...in fact the team they had out tonight cost less...
Its about time some players came clean or grew a conscience...
Vella wants 130 for another year, we turned down Carvell for 105.., too english.., we are paying, and built the team around, two reserve halfbacks who couldnt run a darts team never mind a challenging SL club, nearly 200.., we could have had Lockyer.., (hopefully 1 of them is leaving with JM..).., we are paying Joel Clinton what is working out to be approx £1000 every ten minute spell he does on the pitch , good value or what..??? We are paying three other second grade Aussies £250,000 between them...good value..??? Ben Galea i exempt from all criticism , a fantastic servant..and not robbed us., we are paying a second rate , found out, one set of six, coach £185,000 and perks per year....no wonder he wants to stay forever...
Its time to wise up or flounder for many years...and Hudgy baby and his cuddle crew will have wasted millions on nothing...hope they feel good about it...'"
You make some valid points (if maybe a little bit too harshly) but I would counter some of the negatives you post with asking for some solutions.
You state Morgan should go, yet who should come in.
You state vella should go and carvell is too english yet say we should sign Lockyer, surely he'd want a fortune and at his age (however good he is) is it really the type of signing we want.
You slag off Dobson and Green constantly yet its our pack that aren't setting the platform for the attack.
The crux of our problems is our back up players either aren;t being brought through quick enough or aren't good enough. Taylor needs more game time to see if he can cut it, is he injured or just a being frozen out. This is were Morgan is failing.
Looking at it in hindsight I wish hudgy baby and his cuddle crew had never come to this club, we were miles better in the national leagues..
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| Quote ="barham red"Looking at it in hindsight I wish hudgy baby and his cuddle crew had never come to this club, we were miles better in the national leagues. '"
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| Quote ="barham red"You make some valid points (if maybe a little bit too harshly) but I would counter some of the negatives you post with asking for some solutions.
You state Morgan should go, yet who should come in.
You state vella should go and carvell is too english yet say we should sign Lockyer, surely he'd want a fortune and at his age (however good he is) is it really the type of signing we want.
You slag off Dobson and Green constantly yet its our pack that aren't setting the platform for the attack.
The crux of our problems is our back up players either aren;t being brought through quick enough or aren't good enough. Taylor needs more game time to see if he can cut it, is he injured or just a being frozen out. This is were Morgan is failing.
Looking at it in hindsight I wish hudgy baby and his cuddle crew had never come to this club, we were miles better in the national leagues..
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Whats happened to Liam Watts?
Gone from the verge of international honours to reserve rugby?
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| Quote ="Dave K."Whats happened to Liam Watts?
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