I said as much on the FC board and was ridiculed for disputing McDonnel was one of the top 2 full backs in SL. I actually struggle to think of a SL team with a full back who isn't at least very close to his 'talent'

Seems to be a good spread of Fb's atm.

McDonnell has fitted into Hull FC quite well tbh.

I would have had a HUGE problem with giving a decent amount of our SC to a player who was 34 and clearly knackered.

Why? We had the space on the cap, needed a back rower with experience and can't have got our other targets.

I've got no doubt he was good to have about off the field.

You should have brought him in as a coach but as a player he was finished at the end of the 2011 season.
I'll say it again that 'I' would have had a problem with it even more so when it was obviously a 'mates rates' deal.

the gooseMcDonnell is so far out of position he's not even in shot for some of them. When coming into the line his passing is about as accurate as Ray Charles in an archery competition.'"

Well obviously its your opinion, I don't think you're a ghost writer.

We didn't need a coach at the time. I can understand why you'd be unhappy though, we weren't on a budget at the time.

Which stats?

Certainly not number of tries scored, tries created, offloads or clean breaks. He did give less penalties away though

Did you get the stats you talk about out of the beano or dandy ?

superleagu.co.uk

Do do your research before using facts to back up your argument. As Mr Paterson has pointed out the stats don't lie. being a bit pedantic i'll spell them out.

Eden scored 13 tries. This included a fantastic hat trick AWAY at Catalan which won the game and included a 103 metre try from his own in goal. I trawled the Hull try scoring records for this year. I scrolled down and down. Couldn't find Shannon anywhere until there he was below O'Meley and Galea who had 3, Shannon had contributed 2 tries, 2! Must be the lowest for a full back in the league.
Assists Eden 14, including some kicks at full pace off the side of his boot over defenders which wingers have had to catch and fall over the line. Never seen any player be able to do this. Shannon has managed a bit better here a commendable 5 assists!. So in summary Eden sored more tries away at Catalan than Shannon managed ALL season. In fact Eden has scored more tries in the derbies than Shannon has all year.
Eden beats him on average carries, clean breaks. McDonnall has ten less errors and a 20% missed tackle rate, Eden's missed tackles are up at 40% but not surprisingly he has made more tackles than Mcdonnall playing behind our defence.
In summary one has played only his 2nd pro season and only his 2nd year as a fullback. His defence and positioning has improved immensely as the season progressed. The other from the NRL has underachieved.
Eden is the most exciting young talent I've seen at Rovers in SL and Sandercock is turning him into a top class player. He won us the Catalan game, 2 of the Saints games. Mcdonnall hasn't won you a game this year.
We wont be able to keep him unless we have a huge change of fortune.
Expect Eden at one of SL's successful teams after next year. Mcdonnell will be looking for a club ousted by Shaul.

Well said Mr Burton,my username will be changing to BigNevCostigan12 soon.

Good choice , he'll probably play less games next season then Paterson has this season

Which was your previous incarnation? I'm guessing Houghton's Zero's.

It's a long time since a poster was so universally laughed at.

I don't know, Mr T Fuego's recent meltdown was quite noteworthy

He said loan players don't have any commitment, wasn't Foster their best player last season?

Did he get any of our p.o.y awards ? There's your answer bud

Id say loan players are generally very good as they have something to prove

How could I forget? That was amazing, to be fair to him he's obviously that embarrassed he' hasn't returned since the expiration of his ban.

Site wide Thread Of The Year that.

Be a bit embarrassing to give any awards to a loan signing, not that he didn't deserve it.

im really pleased with the signing of Jamie Langley. think he'll do really well for us

We've had some terrible loan signings at Hull, at least there not all from Leeds anymore.

I can certainly recall Eden being dropped for cackness beyond the call.

As for Foster, give over.

The same Eden who was outjumped and beaten by a prop at Magic Weekend?

Eden can look good, but not a fullback who will be 99% sure of taking a high ball. In fact, I've seen him drop dozens.

Why else would Huddersfield want to get rid?