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| Thought it a bit tough to ask young Joe to play against Cats away after playing for England less than 24hours before hand, when your captain was rested after playing one game against us last Sunday what's that all about ? I think your coaching staff need to think about a young players welfare instead of wrapping well paid Aussys up in cotton wool
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| Campese didn't play based on medical advice.
Also of note, Campese is mainly a stand-off, whereas Wardill played on the wing.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Campese didn't play based on medical advice.
Also of note, Campese is mainly a stand-off, whereas Wardill played on the wing.'"
That's ok then to flog a young lad with 2 games in 24 hours against one of the more physical sides in the comp what's the player welfare officer at your club had to say about that I wonder, there must have been someone to play on the wing by the way thought he did great and credit to him but shouldn't have been put in that game for me
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| Quote ="fc-eaststander"Thought it a bit tough to ask young Joe to play against Cats away after playing for England less than 24hours before hand, when your captain was rested after playing one game against us last Sunday what's that all about ? I think your coaching staff need to think about a young players welfare instead of wrapping well paid Aussys up in cotton wool
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Wardill might be needed again on Thursday night. That ok with you?
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| Quote ="fc-eaststander"there must have been someone to play on the wing'"
Cockayne, Mantellato, Dixon, Minns, Salter and Shaw were all unavailable due to injury. Options were limited.
There's Oakes, but at 17 years old perhaps similar arguments could be made against putting him at risk.
We could have played Campese against medical advice, and moved people about - Blair at centre, Thornley on the wing perhaps. But even the welfare of well paid Aussies has to be considered.
After that, it'd be playing somebody completely out of position (we already had Clarkson playing at centre), not fulfilling the fixture, or asking Wardill not to represent England.
I agree, it wasn't ideal, but do you think any of the alternatives would have been better?
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Cockayne, Mantellato, Dixon, Minns, Salter and Shaw were all unavailable due to injury. Options were limited.
There's Oakes, but at 17 years old perhaps similar arguments could be made against putting him at risk.
We could have played Campese against medical advice, and moved people about - Blair at centre, Thornley on the wing perhaps. But even the welfare of well paid Aussies has to be considered.
After that, it'd be playing somebody completely out of position (we already had Clarkson playing at centre), not fulfilling the fixture, or asking Wardill not to represent England.
I agree, it wasn't ideal, but do you think any of the alternatives would have been better?'"
I agree your options where limited but I think it was a bad decision playing a lad twice in 24 hours but he should be commended for his performance because he was excellent probs the Blair to centre and Thornley wing option would have been better as it was the lad came though with no injury that we know of but if he had have got a serious injury there would have been a lot of questions asked I think
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| Quote ="fc-eaststander"I agree your options where limited but I think it was a bad decision playing a lad twice in 24 hours but he should be commended for his performance because he was excellent probs the Blair to centre and Thornley wing option would have been better as it was the lad came though with no injury that we know of but if he had have got a serious injury there would have been a lot of questions asked I think'"
Tbf, if Campese had got injured when playing against medical advice, the questions would have been even sharper.
As you say, well done to Wardill.
From a Rovers POV, the only realistic choices IMO were to ask him to withdraw from the Academy international or back-up like he did. Worked out for the best, in the end. A fortunate outcome to an unfortunate situation.
Hopefully we're looking at loan options in the backs.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Tbf, if Campese had got injured when playing against medical advice, the questions would have been even sharper.
As you say, well done to Wardill.
From a Rovers POV, the only realistic choices IMO were to ask him to withdraw from the Academy international or back-up like he did. Worked out for the best, in the end. A fortunate outcome to an unfortunate situation.
Hopefully we're looking at loan options in the backs.'"
if its true what rumors are saying and Reece dean has signed for you next year he might aswel go to you now and gain a bit of first team experience now thought Paddy Flynn was a bit of a catch for Cas big strong out side back think you missed out there tbh I am surprised Widnes let him go out maybe fell out with coach
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| Quote ="fc-eaststander"Thought it a bit tough to ask young Joe to play against Cats away after playing for England less than 24hours before hand, when your captain was rested after playing one game against us last Sunday what's that all about ? I think your coaching staff need to think about a young players welfare instead of wrapping well paid Aussys up in cotton wool
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whoa whoa since when does hull kr have to justify ourselves to You. You seem to be deluded that we do??
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| Think Oakes missed the England game through injury.
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| I have to admit that Wardill has been asked to play too many games this season for his own good but I can't see what else the club could do.
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| Quote ="Grimsby Red"I have to admit that Wardill has been asked to play too many games this season for his own good but I can't see what else the club could do.'"
I can not believe young Joe is better than Dixon with all his super league experience do you not think you have killed this kids confidence and ruined him cause maybe he should have been playing for a lot of these games this season ?
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| Quote ="fc-eaststander"I can not believe young Joe is better than Dixon with all his super league experience do you not think you have killed this kids confidence and ruined him cause maybe he should have been playing for a lot of these games this season ?'"
No, he's just garbage.
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| With regards to Dixon. Rightly or wrongly, Joe did play and showed some real determination and grit, which has been lacking in Dixon and despite His lack of experience, he has a maturity and humility that Dixon appears to lack.
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| Quote ="fc-eaststander"I can not believe young Joe is better than Dixon with all his super league experience do you not think you have killed this kids confidence and ruined him cause maybe he should have been playing for a lot of these games this season ?'"
Dixon is injured too, although he'd fallen behind Wardill before that.
His confidence is likely down, but I don't think 'we' have mishandled him particularly. His performances early this season just weren't good enough, and he'd become a target.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Dixon is injured too, although he'd fallen behind Wardill before that.
His confidence is likely down, but I don't think 'we' have mishandled him particularly. His performances early this season just weren't good enough, and he'd become a target.'"
fair enough you guys watch him week in week out he is a rocks and diamonds player at Leeds when you thrashed them he scored a great try he can be a match winner on his day and I thought it a bit silly getting him injured playing for Newcastle thunder when your injury list is as long as it is again bit poor decision making I think that when your so down in numbers !
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| Big wraps for the kid and he's only young so he will be fine , its not as if he's gonna be asked to do it every week !!
If it was a fc lad we'd be praising him as you guys are doing now and rightly so
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| Quote ="fc-eaststander"fair enough you guys watch him week in week out he is a rocks and diamonds player at Leeds when you thrashed them he scored a great try he can be a match winner on his day and I thought it a bit silly getting him injured playing for Newcastle thunder when your injury list is as long as it is again bit poor decision making I think that when your so down in numbers !'"
I am (was) a massive defender of Dixon, even after the Wembley horror show but even I have to admit he needed time at a lower level to get his confidence back. He was shot in the few games he played this year and most of his diamonds had turned to rocks. I would have slapped myself for saying this at the beginning of the season but Cockayne was the far better option at FB.
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| Quote ="barham red"I am (was) a massive defender of Dixon, even after the Wembley horror show but even I have to admit he needed time at a lower level to get his confidence back. He was shot in the few games he played this year and most of his diamonds had turned to rocks. I would have slapped myself for saying this at the beginning of the season but Cockayne was the far better option at FB.'"
How many wingers have you ruined now? You must be on par with us with halfbacks!
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| Quote ="fc-eaststander"fair enough you guys watch him week in week out he is a rocks and diamonds player at Leeds when you thrashed them he scored a great try he can be a match winner on his day and I thought it a bit silly getting him injured playing for Newcastle thunder when your injury list is as long as it is again bit poor decision making I think that when your so down in numbers !'"
Yeah, everybody plays up a reserves comp, as it gives more players more opportunities and a bigger squad means extra depth.
More games will inevitably mean more injuries too though.
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"How many wingers have you ruined now? You must be on par with us with halfbacks!
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To be fair most of them started as rubbish. Our current first choice 2 are as good as any in the league. The only winger I can think of that 'fell from grace' was Peter Fox, he went from average to international to can't catch in 3 years. Its full backs we seem to destroy at will nowadays....
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| Thought he was a halfback not a fullback.
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| Quote ="LifeLongHKRFan"Thought he was a halfback not a fullback.'"
He is but I think we're turning him into a full back which seems to happen a lot now
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"He is but I think we're turning him into a full back which seems to happen a lot now'"
Think he's played full back all season
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