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| looking at all the games in the time sandercock has been coach at rovers do our players give 100% every game if they do not why not what is the problem
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| No, lack of respect/desire to play under the coach? No commitment to the club, although i do doubt this suggestion
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| So, this only happens under the current coach does it?
How the memory plays tricks. Anyone remember Murrayfield 2010? Fev at home at the end of 1998 season? I could go on, but you get the point.
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| Quote ="SirStan"So, this only happens under the current coach does it?
How the memory plays tricks. Anyone remember Murrayfield 2010? Fev at home at the end of 1998 season? I could go on, but you get the point.'"
Paul Fletcher mentioned that fev game how we had beat them 3 times then got hammered at home in the play offs fans thought the players didnt want to win because they would lose there jobs if we went up he said it was rubbish it was just one of those games I just think our players arent as good as players weve had in recent seasons thats all
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| Quote ="SirStan"So, this only happens under the current coach does it?
How the memory plays tricks. Anyone remember Murrayfield 2010? Fev at home at the end of 1998 season? I could go on, but you get the point.'"
What do you think the problem is that we go from beating Warrington one week to being battered throughout against Bradford?
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| The players do give 100% commitment every game physically, but they do lack 100% concentration but that comes with the territory when you have an inexperienced side.
Brains win games.
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| Quote ="little coatsy 112"What do you think the problem is that we go from beating Warrington one week to being battered throughout against Bradford?'"
The answer is there for all to see not giving 100 per cent each game not good enough so why shud we go and pay our hard earned money to watch that week in week out, they still get paid they're wages win or lose, shud bring back win and lose pay simple as, maybe sandercock isn't hard enough on the players that's the feeling I'm getting if that's the case he hasn't got the respect of the players.
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| Quote ="General Zod."The players do give 100% commitment every game physically, but they do lack 100% concentration but that comes with the territory when you have an inexperienced side.
Brains win games.'"
What zod so they have the brains one week but not the next don't agree with u on this one
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| 3 "busted"players that in hindsight shouldnt have played and 2 errors in the first 10 mins always had us up against it against a Bulls who gave their best performance of the year so far.
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| Quote ="PAC"3 "busted"players that in hindsight shouldnt have played and 2 errors in the first 10 mins always had us up against it against a Bulls who gave their best performance of the year so far.'"
Give your head a bang. Bradford beat Huddersfield away 43-18.
Highlights are up on SLTV. A few made to look right chumps for Sammut's last try. We could do with him.
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Quote ="Mrs Barista"Give your head a bang. Bradford beat Huddersfield away 43-18.
Highlights are up on SLTV. A few made to look right chumps for Sammut's last try. We could do with him.'"
Im just quoting from the Bradford T&A today and Cummings saying best performance of the year,he is better placed than me or dare i say you to judge ?
Dont like banging my head at my age.
Link here www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/s ... ord_Bulls/
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Quote ="Mrs Barista"Give your head a bang. Bradford beat Huddersfield away 43-18.
Highlights are up on SLTV. A few made to look right chumps for Sammut's last try. We could do with him.'"
Im just quoting from the Bradford T&A today and Cummings saying best performance of the year,he is better placed than me or dare i say you to judge ?
Dont like banging my head at my age.
Link here www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/s ... ord_Bulls/
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Quote ="PAC"Im just quoting from the Bradford T&A today and Cummings saying best performance of the year,he is better placed than me or dare i say you to judge ?
Dont like banging my head at my age.
Link here www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/s ... ord_Bulls/'"
He's called Franny. Best exercise caution, it's a girl's name.
That said, does he call it "best" or "most enjoyable"?
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Quote ="PAC"Im just quoting from the Bradford T&A today and Cummings saying best performance of the year,he is better placed than me or dare i say you to judge ?
Dont like banging my head at my age.
Link here www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/s ... ord_Bulls/'"
He's called Franny. Best exercise caution, it's a girl's name.
That said, does he call it "best" or "most enjoyable"?
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"He's called Franny. Best exercise caution, it's a girl's name.
That said, does he call it "best" or "most enjoyable"?'"
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| Is it time to start looking for a new defensive coach.
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| Quote ="red al"icon_lol.gif
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I agree with Cummins actually said. It [uwas[/u Bradford's most enjoyable win of the season so far.
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| Quote ="knock-on"Is it time to start looking for a new defensive coach.'"
You're new. Have we met before? I know Rovers are rich enough to be shelling out transfer fees, but does that automatically mean enough cash for more coaching staff?
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| Quote ="General Zod."The players do give 100% commitment every game physically, but they do lack 100% concentration but that comes with the territory when you have an inexperienced side.
Brains win games.'"
In a nutshell.
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| Quote ="General Zod."The players do give 100% commitment every game physically, but they do lack 100% concentration but that comes with the territory when you have an inexperienced side.
Brains win games.'"
This. They will always give 100% but the question is do they care.
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| Quote ="little coatsy 112"What do you think the problem is that we go from beating Warrington one week to being battered throughout against Bradford?'"
I'm convinced that our Chairman humiliated the players into that Warrington performance after the embarrasment at Salford. The coach couldn't possibly motivate them.
2 wins later, pressure off and we revert to type. No doubt we will beat Cas before losing 4/5 on the spin as the opposition improves throughout Easter & all April.
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| Questioning whether the players give their all just because we have out in a bad performance? Some fans in this city need to get a grip.
No player will ever go out and put in a half hearted performance because everyone who has ever played the game knows that is when people get hurt.
We lost to a Bradford side who, in all honesty, didn't have to be particularly good to win. That's down to bad individual performances all over the park but particularly from key players.
Do you think it's a coincidence that Dobson having one of his quietest games in a Rovers shirt coincided with numerous other players having a mare?
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| 34 missed tackles and 7 penalties in the first 25 minutes may have been a problem! But my worry is the distinct lack of enthusiasm at the start of games!
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| Quote ="EL CAMO"No player will ever go out and put in a half hearted performance because everyone who has ever played the game knows that is when people get hurt.
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Bang right, half heartedly tackling an eighteen stone prop is a sure fire way to spending the next twelve weeks recovering from reconstructive shoulder surgery.
Quote ="Mrpaterson12"34 missed tackles and 7 penalties in the first 25 minutes may have been a problem! But my worry is the distinct lack of enthusiasm at the start of games!'"
There's no other way to describe that than shameful. There's simply no excuse for that. I know this isn't a vintage Bradford side but Odsal is always a tough place to go, starting like that gives you virtually no chance.
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| I think Rovers and probably every other team always go out to give 100%.
But it is very hard for most teams to maintain top intensity every week and everyone has flat performances where the energy levels are not as high as you would want.
ANY team playing at top intensity can get a good result, Cas beating Leeds, Rovers beating Warrington etc. That's why it's dangerous to write any team off on a given day. Top intensity can often occur after a team has hit rock bottom (eg Rovers at Salford, Hull at Widnes). It can be harder to do it after a couple of wins. How many teams have won 3 games straight this season?
Bradford were somewhere near top intensity on Sunday and Rovers were flat, there could only be one outcome. But it wouldn't be out of the question for the roles to be reversed on another day.
The better teams are more intense more often, obviously. But that doesn't mean the others aren't trying.
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| What's the split on home and away wins since sandy took over? You do seem to struggle away from home
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"What's the split on home and away wins since sandy took over? You do seem to struggle away from home'"
8 of our 21 points last season were picked up in away fixtures, with another 2 at MM. And 2 of 6 so far this. So slightly, but that is not unusual.
Wakefield, Salford, Hudds and Widnes last year and London this, so not too many impressive scalps. Doing a double over Hudds was nice though after a few years of very poor results against them. And apart from a draw with Saints and a couple of wins against Wire, we've not pulled up too many trees at home either.
Very 'transitional', whether in a caterpillar-butterfly kind of way of a Dr Jekyll - mr Hyde stylee, I'm not sure.
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