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| A big article in the Free Press titled 'Hall In'.
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| Oooooh, I'll have to get a copy just so I know what HHA is referring to when we get his feedback.
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| Whats the gist of it? (I rarely buy newspapers)
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| Well with a opening topic like I had to dig around for £1.25p and have a nosey at it and my blood pressure is still dangerously high 2 hours after reading it! the bloke is well and truly delusional and will say anything to keep his cushy job for life. Were apparently a super league off the pitch (wtf?), the laughable 5 yr plan is still achievable if we can quickly get out this league (he couldn't state how far into the plan we actually are), doesn't feel any pressure at all (the poundland princes at club Doncaster don't have the balls nor ambition to realise he's just a yes man who's failed year after year), used the infamous 10 years ago we nearly didn't have a club (yes your right but does that mean this club becomes a meal ticket for you and us fans have to accept every bit of bull crap you say?). Every bit of the answers he gave was cringeworthy predictable as he knows he isn't good enough to take us to the next level, as I've said on many occasions my digs are not at him personally just at how imcompetent he is as a ceo. I apolagise for the long rant/waffling (I've never wrote a post as long as this) but you can all blame s-o for making me go out a buy the free press lol
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| Wind him up and watch him go ...
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| Quote ="Stand-Offish"Wind him up and watch him go ...
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| Quote ="hally's hot air"Well with a opening topic like I had to dig around for £1.25p and have a nosey at it and my blood pressure is still dangerously high 2 hours after reading it! the bloke is well and truly delusional and will say anything to keep his cushy job for life. Were apparently a super league off the pitch (wtf?), the laughable 5 yr plan is still achievable if we can quickly get out this league (he couldn't state how far into the plan we actually are), doesn't feel any pressure at all (the poundland princes at club Doncaster don't have the balls nor ambition to realise he's just a yes man who's failed year after year), used the infamous 10 years ago we nearly didn't have a club (yes your right but does that mean this club becomes a meal ticket for you and us fans have to accept every bit of bull crap you say?). Every bit of the answers he gave was cringeworthy predictable as he knows he isn't good enough to take us to the next level, as I've said on many occasions my digs are not at him personally just at how imcompetent he is as a ceo. I apolagise for the long rant/waffling (I've never wrote a post as long as this) but you can all blame s-o for making me go out a buy the free press lol'"
This guy talks total rubbish,
I have been on both sides of the club from a director to a supporter and now a sponsor for the last few years,
and I can say that if carl and club Doncaster wasn't there then the club would be in big or not even there, you don't know the all the facts you just guess and are totally wrong on most of your posts. and to say you are not being personal is rubbish I suggest you read your posts before posting them. I wouldn't be putting thousands of pounds in to the club to help it grow if I didn't trust the people running it. and I can honestly say that the rest of the sponsors feel the same
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| Quote ="Richardc"This guy talks total rubbish,
I have been on both sides of the club from a director to a supporter and now a sponsor for the last few years,
and I can say that if carl and club Doncaster wasn't there then the club would be in big poop or not even there, you don't know the all the facts you just guess and are totally wrong on most of your posts. and to say you are not being personal is rubbish I suggest you read your posts before posting them. I wouldn't be putting thousands of pounds in to the club to help it grow if I didn't trust the people running it. and I can honestly say that the rest of the sponsors feel the same'"
Your view is not from someone who is impartial, we all get that had it not been for club Doncaster and even carl himself we would be non existent nobody is arguing that fact but what I'm saying is does that give the people the right to miss targets, underachieve and show little ambition and still expect fans to hand over their money? you can believe what you want but as a bloke I've got a lot of time for him and contrary to my posts I do believe he wants the best for this club but that best isn't good and feel we need a new guy with new ideas. I couldn't give a flying fig whether you put thousands of pounds into the club I pay my hard earned to watch the dons on a regular basis so deserve my say as much as you, thousands a year to watch us finish 6th in the bottom division and you say you trust the people here? the mind boggles
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| Quote ="hally's hot air"Your view is not from someone who is impartial, we all get that had it not been for club Doncaster and even carl himself we would be non existent nobody is arguing that fact but what I'm saying is does that give the people the right to miss targets, underachieve and show little ambition and still expect fans to hand over their money? you can believe what you want but as a bloke I've got a lot of time for him and contrary to my posts I do believe he wants the best for this club but that best isn't good and feel we need a new guy with new ideas. I couldn't give a flying fig whether you put thousands of pounds into the club I pay my hard earned to watch the dons on a regular basis so deserve my say as much as you, thousands a year to watch us finish 6th in the bottom division and you say you trust the people here? the mind boggles'"
As first statement talks total rubbish
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| Quote ="Richardc"As first statement talks total rubbish'"
just 366 people bought into everything is brilliant speech by club Doncaster even when it could of been £30 a pop! that tells you everything you need to know about how Doncaster folk feel about the people in charge. Once again I couldn't care less about how amazing we are off the pitch I pay my money to see results and performances on it. Is it rubbish that we have just finished in our lowest position in a long while whilst carl claims our budget is way bigger than recent years? pretty sure you won't answer that question but hey ho keep that neck buried in the sand.
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| Quote ="hally's hot air"just 366 people bought into everything is brilliant speech by club Doncaster even when it could of been £30 a pop! that tells you everything you need to know about how Doncaster folk feel about the people in charge. Once again I couldn't care less about how amazing we are off the pitch I pay my money to see results and performances on it. Is it rubbish that we have just finished in our lowest position in a long while whilst carl claims our budget is way bigger than recent years? pretty sure you won't answer that question but hey ho keep that neck buried in the sand.'"
What ever I can see I am just wasting my time, you totally missed the point
you just keep moaning that you pay your money every year and see no improvement contradicting yourself
(Just stop going simple as that) anyway I have better things to do than comment on the rubbish over and over again
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| Quote ="Richardc"What ever I can see I am just wasting my time, you totally missed the point
you just keep moaning that you pay your money every year and see no improvement contradicting yourself
(Just stop going simple as that) anyway I have better things to do than comment on the rubbish over and over again
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So you couldn't answer my question then, I base my judgements on facts and that was the worse finishing position in a long while despite an higher budget FACT, you keep chucking your thousands into the club fella cos instead of improving the team your improving carl's tan, now that's the end of.......
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| Have you seen what you have started s-o? this is all your fault lol
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| Quote ="hally's hot air"Have you seen what you have started s-o? this is all your fault lol'"
That what I am here for ... keeping things lively.
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| On a serious note there are two sides to a coin ... neither more meritorious than the other ... although Elizabeth II might demur.
Both views are correct.
Good work is being done and good people are putting their effort and money in.
Also results have been mediocre of late.
But the new season is but three days away and the prospect of improvement looms.
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| Quote ="hally's hot air"So you couldn't answer my question then, I base my judgements on facts and that was the worse finishing position in a long while despite an higher budget FACT, you keep chucking your thousands into the club fella cos instead of improving the team your improving carl's tan, now that's the end of.......'"
sorry don't have the time for keyboard warriors
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| Quote ="Richardc"What ever I can see I am just wasting my time, you totally missed the point
you just keep moaning that you pay your money every year and see no improvement contradicting yourself
(Just stop going simple as that) anyway I have better things to do than comment on the rubbish over and over again
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Your loyalty is commendable but the fact of the matter is that Club Doncaster puts community focused projects way before what actually happens on the pitch. Bramhall and the late Dick Watson had a net worth of over £200 million at the head of Club Doncaster but look at the precarious current position of the Rovers and last seasons lowest ever finish of the Dons.Mediocrity on the pitch will always be the order of the day whilst this lot are at the helm.You say stop going if you don't like the situation well for your information I have even though I have been a lifetime supporter.I am not the only one either and the desertion will continue to get worse as the Dons gradually lose their identity by turning into the Hull Academy/Reserves.
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| Quote ="Richardc"sorry don't have the time for keyboard warriors'"
I'm the furthest from a keyboard warrior you will find so i look forward to you telling me that on sunday
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| Quote ="hally's hot air"I'm the furthest from a keyboard warrior you will find so i look forward to you telling me that on sunday'"
Fair comment, Don't spoil it I would rather not know who you are. on the other hand I more than happy to have a conversation with you but I am sure we wont agree
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| Tatty , Terry and Dick sold Keepmoat for £783 million , so the 200 million figure is way off the mark.
Dick's wealth is about £150 million while Terry's is upwards of £500 million , he recently donated over £2million to his old university to build a music room and has placed over £100 million in a charitable trust.
You cant deny that the two guys who made their money in Doncaster invested in the place where they made their money.......... Doncaster.
These guys where very successful business men and look to run the Keepmoat like a business.
You don't get wealth like that by being foolish ,you work hard and know the value of money and how hard you had to work for it.
They didn't wake up one morning and have the money in the bank, these guys worked hard .
They make up the shortfall from the Rovers budget every year ,which I believe is around 3 to 5 million .
Just because someone is a multi millionaire doesn't mean they should throw money around ,they have backed CH every year and every year CH hasn't delivered.
Richardc i admire your loyalty to Carl but the truth is , he is out his depth and the sooner the Rovers realise that, the better for the club.
We need a real CEO with new ideas to move the club forward and make the 5 year plan a reality instead of pie in the sky.
No-one doubts the guys love for the club , it is simply a business matter and Carl fails on that point alone.
Where else in business would you talk the talk every year but then fail to deliver and still be in your roll.............................I will tell you ....know where.
If someone in your business performed like Carl I'm sure he would be given his cards and sent on his way.
I'm looking forward to the season , I hope RH can produce some exciting rugby and push for promotion but i feel we will be fighting to finish in the top four with the squad we have , and that is no disrespect to the players , i think Hulls injuries will have a big impact on the calibre of player we recieve on DR and with some quality signings at most of our rivals it will be a challange to compete with the likes of Bradford ,York and the Cumbrians.
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| The whole dual reg/loan system is a farce especially with Litten and Lane supposed to be with us on loan, but are currently unavailable for our season opener as they are with Hull FC in Aus....we've really come out of that deal well.
With regards to CH, I like the bloke he was a good player for us and yes maybe he did help steer the ship in the dark days, but he's not doing it for free being CEO is a job, he's being paid to succeed at it, he isn't succeeding, we've swapped coaches, swapped players all with the same result....Given a choice would CH have given up a portion of what I imagine is a decent salary so that the Dons could have signed Wellington Albert? I suspect not.
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| Quote ="SteveRoebuck"The whole dual reg/loan system is a farce especially with Litten and Lane supposed to be with us on loan, but are currently unavailable for our season opener as they are with Hull FC in Aus....we've really come out of that deal well.
With regards to CH, I like the bloke he was a good player for us and yes maybe he did help steer the ship in the dark days, but he's not doing it for free being CEO is a job, he's being paid to succeed at it, he isn't succeeding, we've swapped coaches, swapped players all with the same result....Given a choice would CH have given up a portion of what I imagine is a decent salary so that the Dons could have signed Wellington Albert? I suspect not.'"
I appreciate you guys are entitled to your opinions but asking whether Carl would have given up a portion of his salary so the Dons could have signed Wellington Albert is really taking things a step too far. Carl has put his hand in his own pocket to pay players' wages on many occasions when he was running the club. That's how dedicated he is. The issue with Wellington Albert wasn't a financial one, it was simply the fact that the guy was more attracted to playing Super League rugby than League One rugby.
As far as I'm concerned, the one mistake Carl made was appointing Gary Thornton. Don't forget, without Carl we wouldn't have got Paul Cooke though. As soon as it was obvious that Gary Thornton wasn't the right man for the job, Carl and the club acted quickly to replace him.
The club are making greater efforts to appeal to the wider community in Doncaster and are more than willing to listen to constructive suggestions on how we can all move forwards together. I would urge that we all try to work together to make the club we love a success.
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| Quote ="Double Movement"I appreciate you guys are entitled to your opinions but asking whether Carl would have given up a portion of his salary so the Dons could have signed Wellington Albert is really taking things a step too far. Carl has put his hand in his own pocket to pay players' wages on many occasions when he was running the club. That's how dedicated he is. The issue with Wellington Albert wasn't a financial one, it was simply the fact that the guy was more attracted to playing Super League rugby than League One rugby.
As far as I'm concerned, the one mistake Carl made was appointing Gary Thornton. Don't forget, without Carl we wouldn't have got Paul Cooke though. As soon as it was obvious that Gary Thornton wasn't the right man for the job, Carl and the club acted quickly to replace him.
The club are making greater efforts to appeal to the wider community in Doncaster and are more than willing to listen to constructive suggestions on how we can all move forwards together. I would urge that we all try to work together to make the club we love a success.'"
I totally agree 100%...........
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| DM Your remark regards Carl paying the wages out of his own pocket is laughable, he was the owner of the club , do you think money is solely just given out from the RFL cash machine.
Clubs get a fair chunk from the boys at Red Hall but they have to generate their own income streams to be a viable concern.
Its the same in any business ,some months you make money, some you lose money its economics, and in business you need to balance the books and if that means sticking your hand in your pocket to keep the business afloat then that's what has to be done.
You make it sound as if he is beyond reproach , his business, his profit or loss depending on how he runs the company.
Don't go turning him into the messiah because he cough up a bit of cash to keep his own business going
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| Quote ="Keith Lard's Dog"DM Your remark regards Carl paying the wages out of his own pocket is laughable, he was the owner of the club , do you think money is solely just given out from the RFL cash machine.
Clubs get a fair chunk from the boys at Red Hall but they have to generate their own income streams to be a viable concern.
Its the same in any business ,some months you make money, some you lose money its economics, and in business you need to balance the books and if that means sticking your hand in your pocket to keep the business afloat then that's what has to be done.
You make it sound as if he is beyond reproach , his business, his profit or loss depending on how he runs the company.
Don't go turning him into the messiah because he cough up a bit of cash to keep his own business going'"
My comments were primarily made in the context of the request from Steve Roebuck suggesting Carl should have put his hand in his pocket to secure the Wellington Albert deal. The point regarding Carl having to put his hand in his own pocket was indicative of the lack of money we had in those days. I do suspect that had it not been for Carl the club might not be here today but that seems to be lost on most people.
Of course that doesn't mean we can't question what Carl and the club do. I question him on a regular basis. We don't always agree. We can have a grown up conversation about things and we don't fall out. If I make a suggestion and it's not accepted, I don't keep banging on about it. I move on. As far as I'm concerned, we're all in this together, and if we work together we can achieve much more than if we're constantly having a go all the time.
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