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| Quote ="Double Movement"I'll try and sum up where I think we're at based on what everyone has posted so far.
1) If we post ideas on here, will the club review and reply to them or do we need to have a nominated person to forward each idea individually to the club by email? if anyone from the club is reading this, could you please let us know?
2) Weighman is right in that we probably need someone young and dynamic to help take things forward but even if we can't find that someone, I would hope that the new owners would feel it's important to listen to our views because between us we have quite a few years experience of following the Dons and some potentially good ideas.
3) Car Park issues. The consensus seems to be that the club is missing out on revenue by charging so much and more current supporters would like to use it if it was sensibly priced. Greater overall income could possibly be gained if an initiative such as parking + programme for £3 was introduced. This issue could also be a reason why new people won't attend and why old supporters won't come back.
4) Publicity of games: Could we have a publicity poster in the programme advertising the next match for people to put up in their work places?
5) What can be done to get more posters into shops, etc, like Donny Knights seem able to do.
6) Would an email list of supporters wishing to be considered for away travel be helpful in getting more people to away games? How should this be managed?
Looking forward to hearing everyone's thoughts.'"
i think as points 4 & 5 are concerned. I would be willing to put posters up round my area in shops etc advertising games.
I did it last year with a few of the posters of fixture lists that Ray had done.
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| Disappointing to see that up to Friday (didn't pass it Saturday) the board near to the Tattersfield site wasn't advertising today's game.
It did advertise the pre-Season friendlies.
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| Been to the car boot sale at the Keepmoat this morning paid a £1 for the car park I was given a car park ticket which had he Rovers fixtures printed on the front nothing was printed on the back of the ticket so may be they could put the Dons fixtures on the rear of the car park ticket.
I parked there for two hours yet this afternoon the car park charges increase to £3 for the same car park for the same length of time how does the club justify a 300% increase?
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| Donot go then Geoff .
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| Quote ="Wanderer"Disappointing to see that up to Friday (didn't pass it Saturday) the board near to the Tattersfield site wasn't advertising today's game.
It did advertise the pre-Season friendlies.'"
Checked today ... Still no mention of the Keighley fixture.
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| Was on the board outside the ground plus next week v Dewsbury !
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| Someone has taken the time to put 2 boards up near the Tattersfield site ... why do that and then not update the fixtures???
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| I agree Gary .
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| Quote ="weighman"Donot go then Geoff .'"
Do you mean don't go to the car boot sale or to watch the Dons?
The cost of admission or car parking charges isn't a issue with me you and lot of other supporters are surmising that admission prices & car parking costs are the reasons fans are staying away I admit that it will deter some fans from coming to support the Dons but not all of them, you need to find out the reasons why they don't support the Dons anymore.
Take todays attendance of 647 & look at the attendances I posted on this forum last week for home games in 1990
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Fulham 2211
Trafford Borough 1933
Runcorn 2149
Workington 2248
I don't think those teams would have brought many supporters so you need to find out why those missing supporters don't come to watch the Dons anymore. Ask the club to put a questionnaire in the Star & Free Press asking why fans don't attend anymore.
The Dons home fixture in January 1990 against Keighley had an attendance of 1968
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| You have stated in the last couple of weeks you will not be attending anymore Dons games, so its obvious what I meant .
Geoff you can quote crowds as long as want its now that counts, I could quote a e crowd of 71 , does that mean that it is all roses. NO , the crowds are poor .
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| Quote ="weighman"You have stated in the last couple of weeks you will not be attending anymore Dons games, so its obvious what I meant .
Geoff you can quote crowds as long as want its now that counts, I could quote a e crowd of 71 , does that mean that it is all roses. NO , the crowds are poor .'"
I stated around two years ago why I wouldn't be attending the Dons anymore I haven't posted anything in the last couple of weeks about my reasons
You still don't know the reasons why the support as dropped off the club needs to find out the reasons why.
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| Who said anything about your reasons , you did state you wouldn't be attending anymore.
No I do not know why the support has dropped off !
Are you not going to comment on the Blackpool crowd of 71 then.
Any way that's me done on this matter .
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| Quote ="weighman"Who said anything about your reasons , you did state you wouldn't be attending anymore.
No I do not know why the support has dropped off !
Are you not going to comment on the Blackpool crowd of 71 then.
Any way that's me done on this matter .'"
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| Quote ="weighman"Who said anything about your reasons , you did state you wouldn't be attending anymore.
No I do not know why the support has dropped off !
Are you not going to comment on the Blackpool crowd of 71 then.
Any way that's me done on this matter .'"
The attendance you quote was actually 72 for an away fixture against Blackpool played on 20/2/1977 I was one of the 72
The lowest recorded home attendance for a Dons game was 105 against Workington Town 27/4/1982 again I was at this game.
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| It's no good saying i was at that game and this game, so would have been alot of us.
But it's as weighman says it's now that counts in 2014
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Morning all
Thank you to standoffish for directing me to the thread.
As I said to him via e-mail I'm more than happy to answer any questions via the forum or directly via e-mail at shaun.lockwood@doncasterroversfc.co.uk
A few weeks ago we requested fans to get in touch and help shape the future of the Dons, www.doncasterrugbyleague.co.uk/a ... ience-have
At Doncaster Rovers we have worked alongside supporters on a fan engagement project called In Rovers We Trust, which has been viewed a great success by all parties, I'd very much like replicate the philosophy of In Rovers We Trust with the Dons, but we do need your help.
If I'm honest I do think this would work better with face to face meetings rather than a message board, as I believe dialogue would flow better and quicker and with that in mind I'm happy to meet up with supporters who want to.
All that being said, if anyone does have any questions please post them here and direct them to my attention.
Thanks
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Morning all
Thank you to standoffish for directing me to the thread.
As I said to him via e-mail I'm more than happy to answer any questions via the forum or directly via e-mail at shaun.lockwood@doncasterroversfc.co.uk
A few weeks ago we requested fans to get in touch and help shape the future of the Dons, www.doncasterrugbyleague.co.uk/a ... ience-have
At Doncaster Rovers we have worked alongside supporters on a fan engagement project called In Rovers We Trust, which has been viewed a great success by all parties, I'd very much like replicate the philosophy of In Rovers We Trust with the Dons, but we do need your help.
If I'm honest I do think this would work better with face to face meetings rather than a message board, as I believe dialogue would flow better and quicker and with that in mind I'm happy to meet up with supporters who want to.
All that being said, if anyone does have any questions please post them here and direct them to my attention.
Thanks
Shaun
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| A lot of the supporters were concessions and with the current price a number of these have been lost.If you compare the price at other clubs for concessions relative to full price the Dons fare badly.
For me to attend a game it would cost £25 with fuel admission and parking
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| What wahs is saying Paul is true.
If you were to look at other clubs' concession prices you would see we are two to three pounds over the norm.
Can this be looked at Paul?
We have lost supporters like wahs and would like them back.
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| Quote ="Stand-Offish"What wahs is saying Paul is true.
If you were to look at other clubs' concession prices you would see we are two to three pounds over the norm.
Can this be looked at Paul?
We have lost supporters like wahs and would like them back.'"
SO - Is it Shaun who you are addressing?
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| Hi all
Thanks for the first bit of feedback.
Prior to Christmas we announced that adult and concession prices would be reduced and a family ticket introduced. Our pricing policy this season is
Adults £13
Concessions £11
Children £3
Our family provision means that a free child ticket can be claimed with any adult or concession ticket purchase too. . The idea behind this is that we're attracting younger fans and growing the fanbase from an early age. We'd like to think that all adults or concessions would/could be able to bring a son/daughter/grandchild/niece/nephew to a game and help grow the clubs support.
Having looked at the prices across the Championship (excluding Swinton and Leigh as I couldnt find ticket prices) the range was as follows
Adults £13 to £18
Concessions £8 to £13
Children £3 to £9
As you can see our adult and child prices are amongst the cheapest in the league.
The average price in this division for a concession is £10. We charge £11 but offer a free child ticket alongside it. We also offer concessions at 60 (some clubs are 65) and the price is for a seat (not standing) as it is in some grounds too so there are other factors to also consider.
As we sold season tickets at £120 for concessions (£9.23 per game) the lowest I could offer a match ticket price would be at £10, so as to ensure the financial value of purchasing a season ticket remains. However, one home league game into the season, I would suggest that a further £1 reduction on a concession price isn't going to generate a massive increase in ticket sales or generate the club additional revenue, and would actually cost the club money based who would have attended and paid £11 anyway.
However I appreciate what Wah's has said and therefore am happy to offer a match package for concessions at 6 games for a one off fee of £60, reducing the price per game to £10, (in line with the league average).
I could replicate something similar with adults too (at a different price point) and therefore this would benefit those supporters who attend on a regular basis by bringing their cost per game down but still protecting the value of a full season ticket.
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| Quote ="Wanderer"SO - Is it Shaun who you are addressing?'"
Yes ... senior moment.
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And thanks for the reply Shaun.
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| Reduction from full price at most clubs is £5 £7 at Featherstone and Keighley
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| Hi Wahs
The reason why the jump between adult and concessions is larger in other clubs is because they charge more for their adult tickets. As you can see from the information I've provided we are amongst the cheapest in the league for adult pricing.
Featherstone charge £10 for a concession, which is the same price point I've offered you with the multi-game ticket.
However they also charge £17 for an adult, which is £4 more expensive than ourselves. Keighley are one of the cheapest in the division at £8 I agree, however they are an exception and again charge £2 more than ourselves for an adult.
In addition as I've stated we also offer a free child ticket with any adult or concession ticket purchase, which is excellent value.
Again as I have pointed out the average price in the division is £10 and we charge £11. However I have offered to create a product that provides a £10 price point to bring this in line with the league average.
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| This was raised to show lack of parity between concession and adult
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| Thanks for the feedback Shaun - much appreciated.
I don't find it easy to attend meetings due to work commitments, which probably affects others too, so I think the forum is a good platform to get quite a lot of considered views. Plenty of people on here make some good points.
Designing a pricing package that makes everyone happy is tough, and I appreciate it is a difficult challenge. If you put the adult prices up to accommodate the concessions, you'll get your ear bent for that.
Even though our admission prices may compare favourably with other clubs, I do have a major issue with the £4 car parking charge which will surely be amongst the highest, if not the highest, in the league. A concession ticket plus £4 car parking is a fairer comparison.
We need to include parking charges in the match day cost, especially as transport links to the Keepmoat are poor. Why do the club think £4 is fair? A couple of quid seems reasonable, £4 seems like a rip off. This type of pricing doesn't endear people to the club. It does the opposite.
I understand that getting crowds of 2,000, with everyone paying £2 to get in wouldn't raise as much revenue as 500 people paying current rates. Initiatives need to raise more cash, not drop income, but we need to do something positive to get old fans back and bring new fans in.
If we have serious ambitions to get into Super League, we need to have crowds of at least 2,000. This is almost four times what we're getting now.
Does the club know why the old fans aren't attending? Unless we know why, we can't really start to solve the problem.
Could Doncaster College students do a project to try to find out the answers?
Where do knew fans come from?
Why not have a special promotion where all Rovers season ticket holders can attend one game for free?
We're probably not going to make anyone a die-hard rugby fan overnight but they won't know what they're missing if they don't give it a try.
Do the club have any attendance targets? If so, what objectives are in place to try to achieve them?
Looking forward to reading your thoughts, Shaun.
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