Didn't notice the above when filming it but having looked back on the video it does appear that way. However splitting the frames I do see the ball grounded not dropped and he is still in whilst doing it. I don't know how to put a still on here but will email it to anybody who wishes to see.

It's history anyway ... we lost because we deserved to.

This division is tight and before the seasons end there will be many sides that "deserve" to win but don't.

You have to punish sides that are playing poorly and stay switched on for the full 80 or this happens.

We (Keighley) have in the past been in your position and lost such games, and I know which I prefer.

Finding a way to squeeze a win from an initial poor performance becomes a habit as does loosing it.

I can't see us playing so badly against you at our place and JD will certainly get our forwards fired up, so it will make for a very interesting rematch.

We will certainly have to play a lot better if we expect to maintain our current position. Swinton and Whitehaven look very handy sides.

It's funny how when a side plays better than yours it's because you played badly. Can't you even give some credit to a side that was playing better than yours until the game turned round.
Keighley never bust us up the middle hardly, they had more speed down the right and showed up our lack of pace. That aside you would have lost.
As for the return, you can put your house on Keighley to win.
If we can't beat you at home after outplaying you for 60% of the game, we have no chance away.

I suppose I could point to this...



.....and say you didn't give us any credit before the game



My post was intended to be sympathetic not demeaning. There is no doubt that you were the better side for large portions of the game but that isn't always enough is it?

(and we did play poorly

)

Where was Grant Edwards and Craig Fawcett on Sunday, were they injured??

I think when Keighley fans say that they were poor on the day then i'd be inclined to agree and wonder about how bad that makes us.

Again im sorry to be the negatice poster yet again (i feel thats all i do lately)...but isnt that 7 losses in a row...are we aiming for last years record of 20 odd or whatever it was?

Don't know about Grant but I was advised that Craig had been 'left out' in favour of Aaron Dobek.

We appear to be using the lottery technique for team selection, or possibly the picking the balls out of the bag FA Cup style format.

I think you are being unfair now.
Miller is in a much better position than we are regarding team selection and injuries, and he only wants the best for Donny.
It's the players on the park who have not delivered.
If Miller had a better say and budget he surely would have us a table-topping side.
The pig's ear on Sunday was down to the players and a lack of strong guidance on the pitch.
We are not good enough and that's not Millers fault.
I think we play some attractive rugby, we are just not fast enough or have enough forward power.

The table never lies.
We are ordinary.
It's easy to take it out on the coach, but you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.

I disagree about the forwards Stand-Offish. We have a good pack, who make the inroads and set the good platform. It is our backs that are lacking in creativity, pace and a good rugby league brain. I have been saying this all season. There is only one player in the team that has a brain on the pitch, but he is only spelled in 20 minute bursts (regardless of how well he is performong at the time), and NEVER starts a game.

It is all well and good having a young team, but experience will always win over enthusiam. We desperatley need an older head who knows how to kill off a side/ control a game. This was so evident on Sunday with Demetrieou. He was slowing down tackles, talking to refereee all the time. The play of an older head.

We need someone of this ilk - to play at key position - scrum-half, stand off or loose forward. Problem is 1) I don't think there is a player like this about at the moment that is available, and 2) I doubt they would sign based on our now, very public, pay structure.

I saw two different Donny teams on Sunday.

I saw the team that bossed the park with good go forward and
good defence. Keighley were defending a lot and their big lads
were starting to get tired. Donny were in charge.

I saw the team that lacked direction, struggled to get into
good defensive postions and let Keighley run the show.

We need Kesik for aggressive go forward.
We need Butterfield for effective, organised defence.

Without these two lads in the team we lose our way.

Excellently said

Yes ... that's true Kesik is the extra cutting edge near the line, Butterfield has enough pace and guile to cover for our quite marked lack of pace against fast guys being set clear and strollng over.
We are losing games when they are off the park.

However there is the lack of a really experienced old head to run the show behind the forwards. That's the player we desperately need.
Further to that we need centres with blistering pace ... our wingers are OK ... it would be churlish to castigate them for not being the fastest around.

We are getting caught out by speed merchants ... we are rarely busted up the middle which shows our defensive shape is very good.
But as for forwards going forward, I know I'm in a minority here, but Adam Scott aside, I don't think we have enough beef.

We are still a good side, but we are underachieving big time. That is not down to lack of effort. I personally think this current Dons side is as brave, hardworking and committed as any side for ages. They just do daft things, that old heads could help with and help minimise.

Graham Holroyd going back five years would have transformed this side.
I realise we can't afford his ilk, but that's what's lacking.

If people would like to remember early in the season we had forwards and backs that followed up the good breaks made by our forwards. Now the forwards turn around and theres no one to be seen, previously at least they appeared to be forming an attacking line now you can throw a blanket over them there re stood so close together. I admit I m no coach, but surely to god telling players to support the ball and coaching them to play the ball quicker should not be difficult.

You could let our coach take the Rhinos and within a few months it would be one up rugby.

do any of the players , coaching staff or management read any of these posts,, that we supporters post if they do nothing is ever taken on board,i e why dont kesik play full game ?we never get any results,or do they think we are telling our grandmother how to suck eggs,we could do with a meeting with coaching staff to put these points across

This is a fans forum primarily, for the sharing of opinions and information. The club has no powers here, we are a select little band who whilst we don't stray into defamatory, abusive, racist or libelous comments are pretty much immune and free.

I have been told in the past on here that I am not welcome by the club, for what amounted to having a different opinion to someone else. That's all been resolved now. So people at the club do read this, but some are very anti-criticism, which is I suppose understandable, but rather entrenched and unhelpful.

Chunkster is a good poster from the club, he can take on board views, whether or not he agrees with them, without going all defensive and precious.

I should think we are dismissed in the main. Anyone who is involved in the game knows a lot more than those who are not involved that's a given, so in theory know better. But we still have eyes, we can still see what's working and what's not.

Personally I think that Dons players and officials should not post on here, but instead should read some of it occasionally, if nothing else to see what the mood is and if there is an issue post their response on their official site if they have the time.

It's probably not worth their time though since they will have better more important things to do.

Most of the things we notice, they will notice too anyway, they're not daft. If officials bent to every whim of fans, they would quickly be in a frazzle.

It's lack of communication and lack of information that leads to gripes from fans.
For instance just where was Grant Edwards on Sunday.
It's important to know, simply to dispel concerns like has he had a recurrence of his knee injury which could jeopardise his recovery. Or was he simply on holiday, unavailable or ill.
The question has been asked with no answer so far.

Now if Grant was fit enough to play against a Superleague club, why not against Keighley? What was wrong?

I think we are largely wasting our time on here, but it's kind of addictive.

When I spoke to Grant at the Wakefield game, he said that his knee was OK, but his lungs were the problem (Which I took to mean that he was lacking in fitness). I'm guessing that he wasn't 100% fit.

Yes, but that the point isn't it Donny?
We are left guessing.
I watched the video clip of Grant on the Dons official website and he says the same there, but it's pretty clear he was looking forward to the next game even though he found it hard to get back up to speed, and he won't get that not playing.
Lungs or no lungs.

This is my point, WHY would you play someone just coming back from a long injury against a Super League team and risk a set back or injury, than wait another week to play him in a fixture that we could have won.

Why build Kesik up in the Donny Star, to start him on the bench again?

Why has Fawcett disappeared?

Why sign Ashley Williams play him for 30 mins in friendlies and then bring anyone in but give him a chance?

WHY WHY WHY

It's a secret society ... just accept it.
La Cosa Nostra
The mafia headed by Dons Corleone himself.

To be fair to the club at the last fans forum held at the dome last season about twelve people turned up...

That demonstrates that people don't want to travel or go out of the their way or to put themselves in that kind of meeting scenario. I for instance prefer to remain fairly anonymous, although some folk on here know who I am. After being told at one stage I was not welcome, why would I go to a meeting?

The right medium for an exchange of views is this one nowadays.
The internet.

The gripe on here is that there is insufficient information coming our way. I am sure it would be simpler to just type a few words in answer to questions rather than arrange meetings.
They may not have the time to even do that, It can't be easy running a rugby club.

We need a correspondent ... 'our man at the club' ... to get to find out these things ... I nominate Jemmo.


Personally I thought that's what he did already, but as usual I'm probably mistaken, or he's not very good at it.

Have to admit I have had to take a break from some of my Supporters Trust roles for a wee bit due to personal issues, but hope to be back again soon.

The problem would be where we draw the line over questions sent and answers expected, and the time they have to answer them and the subsequent issues they raise. Rarely in my experience is the answer to a question accepted as the end of a matter.

The problem with regards questioning coaching issues is that, ultimately at the end of the day, the coaches job is at stake based on the decisions he makes, if things were to change based on popular opinion he could then always say "can't blame me".

I am more than happy to post on replies to questions on here though

I agree about coaching issues to a large extent.
However ... 'where is Grant Edwards, and why did he not figure against Keighley?', for instance, is not a coaching issue.
And neither is 'when the hell is are Green and Morrison going to turn out again for the Dons?'