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| Heard on Twitter Anthony Watts quit due to personal reasons!
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| This Club IS an Absolute Disgrace .....BYE BYE Watts your a Discrase, is this the End of this Nightmare, its a Discrase and Discredit to all the former players of this Former Great club total Embarrasment
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| It would be nice if they where actually honest instead of trying to dress it up.
He is going home for 'personal reasons' a week after it being announced he had signed a new deal.
Most of us know the reason he has gone so dont treat us like idiots.
Still, it was nice to know that we only signed players this year who fit in with the club ethos.
2 Sacked and 4 Suspended to date are we ?
This is ing crazy.
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| Quote ="widneslardboy"It would be nice if they where actually honest instead of trying to dress it up.
He is going home for 'personal reasons' a week after it being announced he had signed a new deal.
Most of us know the reason he has gone so dont treat us like idiots.
Still, it was nice to know that we only signed players this year who fit in with the club ethos.
2 Sacked and 4 Suspended to date are we ?
This is loving crazy.'" we are the laughing stock no discipline , I'm so embarrsed to support this club, been watching this club 40 years never ever known anything like this!
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| Unfortunately I dont think we are going to see any improvements.
Whilst we have an owner who will not break from the personal relationships he has developed with those in charge of our coaching and recruitment and see for himself that sticking rigidly to some loosely thought out, Cullen developed plan will not work.
For all of the cash at his disposal he is going to do far more damage than good to this club in the long run if he continues.
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| Yes a complete joke Betts and Cullen.They where bad coaches in the Championship, so how are we going to do well bringinging average Championship players into Superleague? Clive Brewer is a awful Conditioner, and my mate who is a Conditioner says our team is unfit.Then we sign Hickey who looks like a Sumo Wrestler,so what is in the clubs brains?Time for banners outside the ground i dont care now.SuperLeague my the fat wasters.
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| We had our rivalries but we had great banter, so I really feel sorry for the fans who endured the so called 'bad times' to return to SL.
This sounds more like our 2005 disaster every day, keep your peckers up.
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| Quote ="widneslardboy"Unfortunately I dont think we are going to see any improvements.
Whilst we have an owner who will not break from the personal relationships he has developed with those in charge of our coaching and recruitment and see for himself that sticking rigidly to some loosely thought out, Cullen developed plan will not work
For all of the cash at his disposal he is going to de than good to this club in the long run if he continues.'"
I agree 100% want o connor, Betts, Cullen all to go now all this hard prep down the drain
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| Why did the club not FIGHT to keep him
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| Forgive me if i have missed something, but wasn't it only reported last week that he had re-signed???
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| Read the other thread, it answers my question, thought either it was strange or i was going mad!!!
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| It's sad but true but, with this current coaching set up and very average players we will only get worse this season. SOC is in cloud cuckoo land if he thinks we will get 7000 VSH members. The only way this will happen is if he sacks these clowns now, gets a decent coach in and a big name Half Back & Forward in who will help turn these dire performances around. At this rate, and with the current economic climate, he will be lucky if there are 2000 VSH members next season!!!
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| I think I am beyond caring anymore just not worth it!
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| Quote ="Widnes! Widnes!"It's sad but true but, with this current coaching set up and very average players we will only get worse this season. SOC is in cloud cuckoo land if he thinks we will get 7000 VSH members. The only way this will happen is if he sacks these clowns now, gets a decent coach in and a big name Half Back & Forward in who will help turn these dire performances around. At this rate, and with the current economic climate, he will be lucky if there are 2000 VSH members next season!!!'"
I don't think anyone is under the illusion that we will come anywhere close to 7,000 this season. We will be lucky to end the year with as many as we started with. We really need to work on getting people through the door as walk ups and converting them.
This year "is a dead duck and who watches a dead duck? Not even it's mother it just flies off, depressed!"
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| More about it in here
[url=http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/rugby-league-general/widnes-vikings/2012/05/09/australian-star-jarrod-hickey-is-widnes-vikings-transfer-target-100252-30928051/Denis on Watts Departure[/url
Denis getting a bit of praise for what is being said in here which is fair enough. No problems with the clubs stance. Just wish the team was a bit more organised on the pitch on a matchday.
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| Quote ="Dr Chim Richalds"I don't think anyone is under the illusion that we will come anywhere close to 7,000 this season. We will be lucky to end the year with as many as we started with. We really need to work on getting people through the door as walk ups and converting them.
This year "is a dead duck and who watches a dead duck? Not even it's mother it just flies off, depressed!"'"
so this Jarred Hickeys that good that no other super league clubs picked him up or offers to go back to Aus? hopefully try him till end of season an see how he goes!
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| Quote ="mickburkes boots"icon_thumb.gif so this Jarred Hickeys that good that no other super league clubs picked him up or offers to go back to Aus? hopefully try him till end of season an see how he goes!
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I don't get you? What's your point in relation to my post?
Also, London have been trying since the start of the season to bring him in and they as far as I am aware are a SL club.
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| Watts was sacked by Widnes After been arreseted for the possession of class A Drugs in the early hours of Saturday morning.
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| Quote ="Wildcat26"Watts was sacked by Widnes After been arreseted for the possession of class A Drugs in the early hours of Saturday morning.'"
It was no great secret to many round town what he was upto and i'm 100% certain it isn't just him but i'm also not naive enough to think that this only happens at Widnes. Rugby League is riddled with recreational drugs!
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| Quote ="Dr Chim Richalds"I don't get you? What's your point in relation to my post?
Also, London have been trying since the start of the season to bring him in and they as far as I am aware are a SL club.'"
I mean I agree with you Dr chim
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| Quote ="widneslardboy"It would be nice if they where actually honest instead of trying to dress it up.
He is going home for 'personal reasons' a week after it being announced he had signed a new deal.
Most of us know the reason he has gone so dont treat us like idiots.
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It was personal reasons. If you had done the same as he did, would you not want to get out quick?
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| What would be the point of coming out and saying what really happened, it would raise questions about the clubs and Watts wouldn't be able to get another club after messing it up at a second club. All it would do is please some people who have nothing other than what Widnes players get up to care about in their lives.
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| This is going to happen at a club like Widnes (first season back in SL).
As they are only in their first year, they are going to find it hard to get good players to join. The options are, get average/bad players, or take a gamble on good players who are a bit of a handful in the discipline department.
Unfortunately Watts and Moore didn't work out for Widnes, but they ARE good players.
I believe it's just one of those gambles you have to take in your first season back.
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