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| Widnes 20 st Helens 52
Better second half but it was painful watching in the first, we still have a fair few to come back though who haven't even played yet.
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No gaskell, Kelly or houghton today either.
Coyle is crap and should be replaced by gore.
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| well done widnes won the second half
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| Quote ="-VIKINGMAN-"Widnes 20 st Helens 52
Better second half but it was painful watching in the first, we still have a fair few to come back though who haven't even played yet.
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Haggerty
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Frodsham
No gaskell, Kelly or houghton today either.
Coyle is crap and should be replaced by gore.'"
And going off the previous couple of games we missed Mullally. Not sure why Leuluai got MOM, Paddy Flynn should have got it.
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| Quote ="rufustanner"And going off the previous couple of games we missed Mullally. Not sure why Leuluai got MOM, Paddy Flynn should have got it.'"
Yep paddy was probably the pick, lulu just works his nads of that's probably why he got it.
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| Quote ="Gremlin"well done widnes won the second half'"
Not quite?
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| Quote ="-VIKINGMAN-"
Coyle is crap and should be replaced by gore.'"
You think? I think we should adopt a careful approach with Gore. He'll do fine at Skolars though, if picked. But on the whole, we shouldn't throw him in the deep end too often, too soon.
Think a bit of him and Chris Gerrard taking turns at half-back could be a way to go, until I'Anson is fit.
Sadly I agree on Coyle. He's not good enough at half-back and isn't a hooker either.
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| Quote ="-VIKINGMAN-"Widnes 20 st Helens 52
Better second half but it was painful watching in the first, we still have a fair few to come back though who haven't even played yet.
Allen
Finnigan
Haggerty
Ianson
Frodsham
No gaskell, Kelly or houghton today either.
Coyle is crap and should be replaced by gore.'"
I agree and can not believe some on the widnes site said he played well.Gore looks the part and a good kick and a few side steps.Pickers will be really good if gets match fit as offloads well.Grady i thought did well in the secondrow,and lunt must be pushing for the first choice hooker.
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| Quote ="Gremlin"well done widnes won the second half'"
last time a coach said that at fax he was sacked.
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| what teams were put out today n who scored.
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| Quote ="swifty62"what teams were put out today n who scored.'"
We had a full team out bar Wello, Eastmond, Perry and Lomax, who are all still recovering from injury. We swapped in the second half though, putting out a few of our 'second string' players who actually have all played at first grade thanks to megga injury problems over the last two seasons.
I was impressed by your right side (left as us Saints fans saw them in the second half). There were some really nippy players on that wing who caused us problems. Are they regular players for you guys or newbies? I'm sure you'll appreciate that my attention was primarily upon my own team given we have some new faces in it, a new coach and some old faces missing. But I couldn't help notice that side as they kept threatening our line in front of me!
I enjoyed the match but it was bloody freezing in the East Stand! I think that's where I'm going to be spending my season, unless that is the away end. I am confused. I think I circumnavigated the whole stadium to get there. There are going to be a lot of lost Saints fans wandering around Widnes over the coming weeks I think!
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from www.saintsrlfc.com/news/2963
Match Summary:
Widnes:
Tries: Grady, Haggerty, Thackeray, Gardner
Goals: Craven (0 from 1), Tyrer (2 from 3)
Saints:
Tries: Graham (2), McCarthy-Scarsbrook, Soliola, Gardner, Roby, Armstrong, Dixon, Wheeler, Penalty Try,
Goals: Foster (6 from 10)
Penalties:
Widnes: 9
Saints: 6
HT (Sts First): 36-4
FT (Sts First): 52-20
REF: R Hicks
ATT: 3755
Teams:
Widnes:
1. Danny Craven; 19. Matt Gardner, 18. James Ford, 23. Tangi Ropati, 5. Paddy Flynn; 6. Anthony Thackeray, 14. Thomas Coyle; 3. Richard Varkulis, 9. Kirk Netherton, 10. Daniel Heckenberg, 20. Shane Grady, 16. MacGraff Leuluai, 17. Ben Kavanagh.
Subs: 4. Steve Tyrer, 8. Steve Pickersgill, 12. Kurt Haggerty, 15. Chris Gerrard, 25. Chris Lunt, 29. Grant Gore, 34. Jack Owens.
Saints:
22. Jamie Foster; 2. Ade Gardner, 3. Michael Shenton, 17. Gary Wheeler, 5. Francis Meli; 6. Leon Pryce, 25. Lee Gaskell; 15. Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook, 9. James Roby, 10. James Graham, 4. Sia Soliola, 12. Jon Wilkin, 13. Chris Flannery,
Subs: 11. Tony Puletua. 14. Scott Moore, 16. Paul Clough, 18. Matty Ashurst, 19. Andrew Dixon, 24. Tom Armstrong.
To Saints fan, I also noticed that we had far more success when we attacked down that side. On our right was Flynn on the wing who made a couple of good breaks and from memory, the centres were a mixture of Ropati and Ste Tyrer. Anthony Thackeray also scored from a break on our right.
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from www.saintsrlfc.com/news/2963
Match Summary:
Widnes:
Tries: Grady, Haggerty, Thackeray, Gardner
Goals: Craven (0 from 1), Tyrer (2 from 3)
Saints:
Tries: Graham (2), McCarthy-Scarsbrook, Soliola, Gardner, Roby, Armstrong, Dixon, Wheeler, Penalty Try,
Goals: Foster (6 from 10)
Penalties:
Widnes: 9
Saints: 6
HT (Sts First): 36-4
FT (Sts First): 52-20
REF: R Hicks
ATT: 3755
Teams:
Widnes:
1. Danny Craven; 19. Matt Gardner, 18. James Ford, 23. Tangi Ropati, 5. Paddy Flynn; 6. Anthony Thackeray, 14. Thomas Coyle; 3. Richard Varkulis, 9. Kirk Netherton, 10. Daniel Heckenberg, 20. Shane Grady, 16. MacGraff Leuluai, 17. Ben Kavanagh.
Subs: 4. Steve Tyrer, 8. Steve Pickersgill, 12. Kurt Haggerty, 15. Chris Gerrard, 25. Chris Lunt, 29. Grant Gore, 34. Jack Owens.
Saints:
22. Jamie Foster; 2. Ade Gardner, 3. Michael Shenton, 17. Gary Wheeler, 5. Francis Meli; 6. Leon Pryce, 25. Lee Gaskell; 15. Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook, 9. James Roby, 10. James Graham, 4. Sia Soliola, 12. Jon Wilkin, 13. Chris Flannery,
Subs: 11. Tony Puletua. 14. Scott Moore, 16. Paul Clough, 18. Matty Ashurst, 19. Andrew Dixon, 24. Tom Armstrong.
To Saints fan, I also noticed that we had far more success when we attacked down that side. On our right was Flynn on the wing who made a couple of good breaks and from memory, the centres were a mixture of Ropati and Ste Tyrer. Anthony Thackeray also scored from a break on our right.
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| Quote ="vikings 4 ever"To Saints fan, I also noticed that we had far more success when we attacked down that side. On our right was Flynn on the wing who made a couple of good breaks and from memory, the centres were a mixture of Ropati and Ste Tyrer. Anthony Thackeray also scored from a break on our right.'"
Well, for your sake I hope your coach keeps that combination as it was effective. There were pacey players there who could sidestep and throw a good dummy.
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| Paddy Flynn was very good today and I thought Thackery had a good spell after Saints hit the 40 point mark.
Flynn was Widnes MOM for me, good run out for both sides with a few players due back for both.
Just hope we get Widnes at home in the cup now!
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| Would have thought the crowd would have been a bit bigger than that seeing as you are definitely going into SL.
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| Quote ="THELAST3YARDS"Paddy Flynn was very good today and I thought Thackery had a good spell after Just hope we get Widnes at home in the cup now!'"
Quote ="TV BOY"Would have thought the crowd would have been a bit bigger than that seeing as you are definitely going into SL.'"
Don't be daft. The stay-aways will be back for the York game on 3rd April.
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| Quote ="TV BOY"Would have thought the crowd would have been a bit bigger than that seeing as you are definitely going into SL.'"
Why?
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| Quote ="THELAST3YARDS"Paddy Flynn was very good today and I thought Thackery had a good spell after Saints hit the 40 point mark.
Flynn was Widnes MOM for me, good run out for both sides with a few players due back for both.
Just hope we get Widnes at home in the cup now!'"
I agree about Paddy, I thought he was our best player. It was also good to see Ste Tyrer having a go a Paddy for him taking drive on the wrong side of the pitch which meant later in the set when we kicked through to Paddy's side but he was still getting back into position. IMO if Paddy does less driving up the middle and stays on his wing; a) he'll be in position to recieve the ball if we break and also b) he won't be knackered all the time. The runs that he made on Sunday were full of pace and purpose - he can't do that if he's spent all game driving into forwards.
I still think Thackeray needs a good partner next to him to give him more time and space. Coyle doesn't do a lot to take the heat off Thacks, so when he does get the ball, the defenders are on him in a flash. Then again that also could just be the difference between championship defence and SL. If we get into SL and we take Thacks, he simply won't get the space that he currently gets. Thacks being quiet in the friendlies is probably a combination of lack of a good scrum half next to him and also playing against the likes of Wire and Saints.
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| Quote ="SNOT-HIM08"Why?'"
Because you were playing probably your closest SL neighbours and you were putting out a strong team. How much was to get in on the day?
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| Quote ="vikings 4 ever"I agree about Paddy, I thought he was our best player. It was also good to Ste Tyrer having a go a Paddy for him taking drive on the wrong side of the pitch which meant later in the set when we kicked through to Paddy's side but he was still getting back into position. IMO if Paddy does less driving up the middle and stays on his wing; a) he'll be in position to recieve the ball if we break and also b) he won't be knackered all the time. The runs that he made on Sunday were full of pace and purpose - he can't do that if he's spent all game driving into forwards.
I still think Thackeray needs a good partner next to him to give him more time and space. Coyle doesn't do a lot to take the heat off Thacks, so when he does get the ball, the defenders are on him in a flash. Then again that also could just be the difference between championship defence and SL. If we get into SL and we take Thacks, he simply won't get the space that he currently gets. Thacks being quiet in the friendlies is probably a combination of lack of a good scrum half next to him and also playing against the likes of Wire and Saints.'"
Thacks did score a good try,and with a top class scrumhalf at his side he will be fine.
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| what about that moore from batley hes decent?
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| Quote ="widnes robin"what about that moore from batley hes decent?'"
But as you say he is contracted with Batley and they won't let him go as he is one their key players. Not many scrum halfs or standoffs left at this time of the year as 'Fev are finding out with the loss of Briggs.
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| true true, but with the use of mr oconnors wallet who knows
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| Quote ="widnes robin"true true, but with the use of mr oconnors wallet who knows
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the salary cap knows, unfortunately.
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| Should get rid of gardner he is turd
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