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| Told you all about the Lueluai signing on the Leigh message board on Friday morning ,watch out for 2 more decent signings very soon,probably after the play-offs.
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I like you're avatar. Never forget, it's the only reason you'll be getting a SL license
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I like you're avatar. Never forget, it's the only reason you'll be getting a SL license
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| Quote ="The Dors"I like you're avatar. Never forget, it's the only reason you'll be getting a SL license
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I hope your right
So what is the reason / Reason's you won't then ?
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| Quote ="The Dors"I like you're avatar. Never forget, it's the only reason you'll be getting a SL license
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As this seems to be a fact many are incapable of ever absorbing, were we to lose in our quest for the NRC the first season our squads ever since would look very different. We can all lament the lack of P & R all we want to, but as our goal is Super League we simply cannot afford not to play the game as it has been set. We were told to get our youth in order, and frankly, we're the side in the division doing it the best by far. We could have filled the side with Aizue's and Paul's and the like, but it would simply have been counter productive. Filling our side with journeymen would have given the perception of a team simply buying our way to the top for short term gain instead of one investing in the future.
In short, our club is focussed on one thing, and we're primed to achieve it. If we had P & R, we'd have done things differently.
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| Quote ="Orfordviking"I hope your right
So what is the reason / Reason's you won't then ?'"
We're too small fry
We don't have enough money
We haven't fulfilled the criteria.
That was dead easy.
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| Heard at the games yesterday that the club are planning on a few announcements during the forthcoming week, so after yestaerday let's hope they come quick and fast!
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| Quote ="Chris Dalton"As this seems to be a fact many are incapable of ever absorbing, were we to lose in our quest for the NRC the first season our squads ever since would look very different. We can all lament the lack of P & R all we want to, but as our goal is Super League we simply cannot afford not to play the game as it has been set. We were told to get our youth in order, and frankly, we're the side in the division doing it the best by far. We could have filled the side with Aizue's and Paul's and the like, but it would simply have been counter productive. Filling our side with journeymen would have given the perception of a team simply buying our way to the top for short term gain instead of one investing in the future.
In short, our club is focussed on one thing, and we're primed to achieve it. If we had P & R, we'd have done things differently.'"
Spot on.
However the last two years may or may not have panned out, Widnes's thirst for a Super League place means that they would have done whatever was necessary to get the license. That's why they deserve one quite frankly. They've got the money and the mindset. Had Somali Pirates kidnapped SOC then who knows (do they venture up the Mersey?) in that eventuality, but they haven't and SOC is fighting fit.
Had Widnes constantly been at the top of the tree for the last two years there wouldn't have been one anti-Widnes for SL voice - not one. That's what's hacking people off but that isn't the fault of Widnes. That blame for those conditions lies firmly at the door of the RFL.
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| Am i missing something but havnt Widnes still spent up to the maximum salary cap this season and last? Basically the clubs signings have been crap and even with all this talk of "oh we could have signed the Aizues and Pauls and the like" Widnes still havnt many, if any players in their squad that would be any good at SL level. I mean there isnt even a single Widnes player i would be happy if Fax signed let alone letting them have a go in SL.
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| Quote ="Orfordviking"I hope your right
So what is the reason / Reason's you won't then ?'"
Read above. It was just friendly ribbing.
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"Am i missing something but havnt Widnes still spent up to the maximum salary cap this season and last? Basically the clubs signings have been crap and even with all this talk of "oh we could have signed the Aizues and Pauls and the like" Widnes still havnt many, if any players in their squad that would be any good at SL level.
I mean there isnt even a single Widnes player i would be happy if Fax signed let alone letting them have a go in SL.'"
Honestly? I think the age of our squad actually makes us one of the best suitef for SL IMHO, as we have a lot of lads at the right age to become SL squad players at least rather than sign a whole new 25 man roster. Sides like Fax & Barrow may have taken say 4/5 into the first team but the rest would be retiring / back to Championship!
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| Quote ="J20"Honestly? I think the age of our squad actually makes us one of the best suitef for SL IMHO, as we have a lot of lads at the right age to become SL squad players at least rather than sign a whole new 25 man roster. Sides like Fax & Barrow may have taken say 4/5 into the first team but the rest would be retiring / back to Championship!'"
Im just thinking off the top of my head but i fancy Fax would have more players that could give it a shot in SL than Widnes. I mean most of Widnes team are average in this league let alone SL. We would have to sign a few decent fowards but i think our whole back line could make a fist of it in SL.
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"Am i missing something but havnt Widnes still spent up to the maximum salary cap this season and last? Basically the clubs signings have been crap and even with all this talk of "oh we could have signed the Aizues and Pauls and the like" Widnes still havnt many, if any players in their squad that would be any good at SL level.
I mean there isnt even a single Widnes player i would be happy if Fax signed let alone letting them have a go in SL.'"
We bought younger players, with much less experience, than Halifax have. We were also blooding quite a few of our own youngsters this season too. An injury list, the like I’ve never seen before, hasn’t helped either.
ATEOTD by season two of SL (should we get there) only a few of the youngsters will probably be in the starting 13.
Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"Im just thinking off the top of my head but i fancy Fax would have more players that could give it a shot in SL than Widnes. I mean most of Widnes team are average in this league let alone SL. We would have to sign a few decent fowards but i think our whole back line could make a fist of it in SL.'"
In the short term yes. You would still finish bottom though. I doubt that Halifax would be able to spend to the maximum of the salary cap, whereas it is likely that we will – if allowed.
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| Quote ="Pepe"We bought younger players, with much less experience, than Halifax have. We were also blooding quite a few of our own youngsters this season too. An injury list, the like I’ve never seen before, hasn’t helped either.
ATEOTD by season two of SL (should we get there) only a few of the youngsters will probably be in the starting 13.
In the short term yes. You would still finish bottom though. I doubt that Halifax would be able to spend to the maximum of the salary cap, whereas it is likely that we will – if allowed.'"
Why concentrate on the youngsters then if none of them will be good enough? TBH we would be screwed if we went in to SL and things arnt looking too rosy in this division.
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"Why concentrate on the youngsters then if none of them will be good enough? TBH we would be screwed if we went in to SL and things arnt looking too rosy in this division.'"
But we dont know if any of them will be good enough do we. If we knew that know then every sporting club which runs any kind of junior structure would cash them in and bin off the ones who wont make the grade.
You can only keep on blooding them, see some improvements which we have in the majority and try and continue this development.
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"Why concentrate on the youngsters then if none of them will be good enough? TBH we would be screwed if we went in to SL and things arnt looking too rosy in this division.'"
I didn't say that None would be good enough. I clearly said that a few would. Hopefully the spine of the team will be home grown, as it was in the past. We needed to blood lots of youngsters to achieve this. We will also have an academy system that is as good as any in SL and will continue as an on-going process – hit the ground running so to speak.
Just doing what fax have done would put the likelihood of building the spine of the team from homegrown talent, a much longer process which may take us past the 2015 licence bid. That could cost us that licence.
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| Fax have always struggled when it has come to basing teams around local talent mainly due to most of them getting snapped up at an early age by our more illustrious neighbours. Then again we are also to blame for the Aussie invasion so maybe we wont get a license because we have ruined the game at National level for GB.
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