We may have some decent options available over the next week or so.

Daniel Heckenberg - Getting fitter by the week and looking a lot slimmer
Dean Thompson - 2 Try return for the reserves the other day
Thomas Coyle - Water Carrier yesterday but is now ready for a return
Ben Davies - 18th man for Wigan yesterday but they have a few returning
Gareth Haggerty - Back in training apparently 4 weeks away from a return.


Downside

Toa - looks to be out for a while
Ainscough - Looked like an ankle knock

Looking better now mate.I see Ben Davies is in the Wigan squad on Saturday.If he is 18th man or plays can he still play for Widnes on sunday?I am wondering how this dual registration works and the rules?

I would expect that rule is to stop young lads playing 2 games in one weekend leading to possible burn out/overload. If he doesn't play common sense says he should beable to play for Widnes on Sunday to get the game time the dual reg is all about.

No.

Basically, if he is named in the squad, the dual lads cannot play, even if they do not play.

yet loan players can play 2 games in the same week ie J James

I thought jake emmitt played for leigh when was in Saints squad.

That's not what the rule says though :



Surely being selected as 18th man wouldn't count as 'playing' would it?

Downside

Toa - looks to be out for a while

and that's the downside is it are you sure

I think it does. I don't recall one instance where someone has been named 18th man and played for Leigh. 18th men have to travel with the team and can be called up to play at any time. In some instances, I could be corrected but teams can play on the same day that make selection impossible.

This I feel is the loophole Millward has been looking for as they would have been available otherwise, so the definite 75% of played games is confusing, especially when you look at how much the player can be messed about on a week to week basis.

Emmit is 18th Man for Saints this week. I bet he doesn't play this weekend.

Unfortunately TKL has played his last ever game of RL... He wont play again this year and thus has effectively retired...

I think it would be fitting to try and re-launch the Wire FM challenge at Xmas with TKL as a guest of honour. The man has given a lot to rugby in Widnes and Warrington...

Nes

Moron

This is what I don't get about visiting fans. They all love to have a crack about Toa but in this club he is a well respected player and you're not exactly going to change our minds just by posting drivel, which is lets face it what it was. You show such disrespect for him, his career is over and the best you can come up with is a slight on his abilities. I'll put it in language you can understand. You is stupid innit?

When you've had the balls to play professional rugby league well past your prime and had a better career Toa has come back and mock.

Very well put Chris, i dont think you will here any grumbles from Widnes fans about Toa, very well respected is Toa and im gutted it's ended this way for him.

Anyone else not a TKL fan?

Gutted about TKL as gives 100% when was fit.Unfortunanetly i think this is the last season for him, at Widnes.Maybe with his experience he can coach a few youngsters?Anyway TKL is a star, and hope for a good recovery.

And your mocking of Stanley Gene? It's a little two-faced of you isn't it? It's a message board. Lighten up.

I would think Chris's issue is with the mocking of a good player who has had his career probably ended by injury.

AFAIK Granpa Gene is still being wheeled out is he not

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No. I think the wheels have come off

There is no double standard here. I have always been highly praising of Gene. I think he was a great signing for you. I've poked fun at his age but with respect to his abilities. If people were poking fun at Toa's indiscipline or his age then I wouldn't have an issue. He just seems to be the go to guy for rival fans to pick holes in our squad against and it isn't given with respect. People holding him up as some weak link is just something I don't understand. Why? He may not be the player he once was but he is not the disaster people make him out to be. As far as I can tell, the general consensus with Widnes fans is that he is a good player. You're not going to embarrass us by bringing his name up every time you want to bring shame on us. And in a thread where his career may well be over, it might not be a good time to rip into him on this board.

It's one of those stock insults people turn to. Like when Super League fans say "Enjoy Batley" or some place else when they want to remind us where we are. Well...we will. Batley is a good club.

I think that's the problem there. His reputation goes before him - much like Robbie Paul who also gets plenty of stick.

Indeed, but as I'm bound to point out here, when he was "the player he once was" he was at the upper echelons of try scorers in super league, now he is an oft subsituted mid table championship team player, he fits in quite well. Same with Paul, an ex international, same with Gene.

If any of these players were what they once was they wouldn't be playing for who they are now.