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| If you read some press today, opinion?
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| Don't see why they'd recall Picks but if so were screwed!
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| Quote ="J20"Don't see why they'd recall Picks but if so were screwed!'"
Some of our players are carrying knocks think Smith wants to cover himself and maybe give one or two a rest.
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| Quote ="Wire_85"Some of our players are carrying knocks think Smith wants to cover himself and maybe give one or two a rest.'"
Thing is if they go back Wire they cant return again for Widnes (passed deadline) So if he recalled them for 1 game to rest people they'd miss out on up to a possible 6(?) games if Widnes reached GF plus sure the two would rather go for Widnes GF then play 1 game in a weakened Wire side.
At the end of the day there your lads so not alot we can do! But hopefully if just want to rest for a week will dig into academy for a week rather than end the 2's great run for the Vikings!
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| Quote ="IT's Our Year"www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/wolves/4539857.BREAKING_NEWS__Wolves_recall_Penny_and_Pickersgill/
they have definatly been recalled. Warrington guardian confirms so.'"
Cheers
You guys certainly now how to make a bad week worse"! lol
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| As a Widnes fan i am gutted. Obviously there is nothing we can do. Both really liked by our fans i just dont want them to go back and get slated by a wire fans because that will only ruin their confidence's.
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| That our season ed now.Salary cap reduced for teams like batley and now two important players gone.Now we can only have part time players.Can ste o connor get the top players good jobs at stobarts.
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| We certainly have alot of fans that are flapping at the moment after one very close defeat. The signings of Penny and Pickersgill were huge successes in my opinion but they were never here forever.
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| GF aspirations may have gone now, if they hadn't already.
Think we'd have to finish a bare minimum of third to reach the GF, which is looking all the more unlikely.
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| Quote ="AJ Viking"We certainly have alot of fans that are flapping at the moment after one very close defeat. The signings of Penny and Pickersgill were huge successes in my opinion but they were never here forever.'"
Our fans flap after every defeat though a defeat on Thursday will put a big dent in our GF aspirations.
Penny we can certainly cope without although he has been excellent for us, Paddy Flynn has really laid down the marker since his return. It's Pickersgill that concerns me most as he really added his weight and more to the pack.
For me it all really depends on the fitness of Morrison, Fletch and Toa over the coming weeks. If we can get them fit and avoid any more injuries we're still well in with a shout.
Even without Pickersgill our pack is a much tougher unit than earlier in the season.
Remember it was only 10 days ago we were creaming ourselves over the trouncing of 'fax. This team still has a lot of skill and power, Cullen just has to get the best out of what he's got available now.
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| Quote ="GetThemScallyWags"
Remember it was only 10 days ago we were creaming ourselves over the trouncing of 'fax. This team still has a lot of skill and power, Cullen just has to get the best out of what he's got available now.'"
Exactly, in a game that Flynn bagged a hat trick and Picks started on the bench.
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| I've said for a while now that the loss of Penny is nothing to get too worked up about and I'm glad that it gives Flynn a go. Hopefully Penny might realise that it is better to be playing than to sit in his tracksuit running on to give the lads a drink of water and come back next year
Pickersgil is a bit more of a loss especially if we have Morrison and Fletcher missing for the next couple of games..
Either way.. lets do what we do best and blame McCormack for putting the original team together in the first place and leaving us in this situation.
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| Quote ="In EnemyTerritory"I've said for a while now that the loss of Penny is nothing to get too worked up about and I'm glad that it gives Flynn a go. Hopefully Penny might realise that it is better to be playing than to sit in his tracksuit running on to give the lads a drink of water and come back next year
Pickersgil is a bit more of a loss especially if we have Morrison and Fletcher missing for the next couple of games..
Either way.. lets do what we do best and blame McCormack for putting the original team together in the first place and leaving us in this situation.'"
Exactly, somebody told me throughout the week that we had Pickers nailed on for 2010, ie permanant deal, But hey ho such is life. I do feel it still may happen though. Like you say Morro and Flecth are key and without them our pack lacks depth and go forward, something Picks has added over the past 6-7 weeks, a bit gutted tbh. Feel as though KP would really have benefited from another few weeks and who knows, chance of a Grand final place, let's face there is more chance of Widnes winning the cup in 2010 than there is of KP starting at Wembley.
PS BTW IET really impressed with that blog in your sig.
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| Clutching at straws but no word on wolves site about pick's yet just penny
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| Quote ="SNOT-HIM08"Clutching at straws but no word on wolves site about pick's yet just penny'"
Both of them I'm told today.....NO straws to be clutched I'd say, they're gone.
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| Quote ="SNOT-HIM08"Clutching at straws but no word on wolves site about pick's yet just penny'"
Cullen confimed both on Wire FM
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| Sadly, this was always likely to happen. It's a good job we won the NRC isn't it?
Hopefully we won't be in this position next season and PC will have recruited a squad that won't need to loan 4 SL players.
I think we have cover for Penny, but Pickersgill will be missed, especially with injuries to other key forwards.
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| How has Penny looked for you in terms of speed? when he bust on the scene any gap and he was gone, he looks abit more bigger muscle wise now, just wondered if he still has that pace?
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| Quote ="Wire_85"How has Penny looked for you in terms of speed? when he bust on the scene any gap and he was gone, he looks abit more bigger muscle wise now, just wondered if he still has that pace?'"
Yes, he does. Far from the finished article though.
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| Quote ="richardviking"Yes, he does. Far from the finished article though.'"
I wouldn't say he was far from the finished article. His defensive awareness has improved while he's been with us and his confidence is high again.
Very very safe under the high ball too. I think he's benefited from being at Widnes and also experiencing winning a cup final. I will have done his game the world of good.
I know SL is a completely different kettle of fish but if the lad can bulk up and not loose his pace he'll be awesome.
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| Quote ="GetThemScallyWags"I wouldn't say he was far from the finished article. His defensive awareness has improved while he's been with us and his confidence is high again.
Very very safe under the high ball too. I think he's benefited from being at Widnes and also experiencing winning a cup final. I will have done his game the world of good.
I know SL is a completely different kettle of fish but if the lad can bulk up and not loose his pace he'll be awesome.'"
He's probably up there with Richards and Donald as one of the best natural finishers in SL. But I'm not convinced about his positional sense and awareness in defence. Agree about the high ball, though, safer than many.
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