Can we turn it around?

Think alot will change but cant see a team gaining much cohesion and us challenging for anything this year!

(Saying that I forgot bout NRC as a good draw may well see us through to final!)

Training at night for the next month to see how things go seems decent enough and Morrison will be returning along with a few loanees. The difficult thing will be when tyrer returns to Celtic and toa is still injured. Light in the backs then!

Noticed that they were in training this morning!!!

I think we will get better and we'll see a decent end to the season although a lot short of what we would have hoped for at the beginning.

Gradually I think we are improving there has been stuff in the games of late that have given me cause for hope and a proper training schedule should see things improve further..

C'mon yer black and whites!!!

You know yourself vikingman we always start of crap then towards the end of the season we always do quite good so hopefully it will happen again this season.

And hope that Fax and Barrow are doing what we did in 2007 - minus the NRC win of course

I think our problems may run a little too deep for this season. It really does depend on how good any loan players are, and if we can get a fully fit team together.

Having Fletcher and Morrison in the back row, with two big, new experiened props up front would certainly give us a shout at reaching the GF, but we'll probably have to go to Barrow Fev or Toulouse to get there. In all honesty I can't see us doing it.

The NRC would be our best bet. If we can get to the final, we may be able to pull off a shock win on a neutral ground. Again, it depends on who the club can bring in, so it's a bit of a long shot too.

Next season then....

from what i have ssen of you so far you are lucky not to be 2nd or 3rd from bottom
feel sorry for you, your current crop are dreadful

You've clearly not seen very much then.

TBH dude I don't think he is too far off the mark

Dreadful is too kind a description for the dross we have all witnessed this season.

We're far from being relegation material and we're far from dreadful. I've seen only 1 dreadful performance this season and that was against Barrow.

Let's keep it in perspective here. We're somewhere between poor and half decent, the problem is the lack of power up front and the consistency in training, which as far as I'm aware are being addressed.

We just need to be patient.

Yep, I think that's about right. Bear in mind that with more patience and grunt up front we could have turned over Leigh and Haven and we weren't really outclassed by Fax either. We're not great but talk of relegation is daft.

Unless we lose on Saturday

Widnes will improve.

They have one of the best squads in the division, but Cullen needs to give the players more self belief in the way you play.

It is very one dimensional, to the extent that any average team will give you a game. You should be blowing mid table teams (Leigh) out of the water, but war far out-enthused.

It will make you more difficult to beat mind, but Fax for me will win more games due to their open stayle of rugby.

As for overall structure (defence / attack), Barrow look good and Toulouse arn't far behind.

There is still a fair way to go fo me, with all top 7 sides in the makeup to take points off each other.

Widnes should make top 6. They need to win more games though against teams around them to have any chance of making the top 3.

I went to vote for "Make both finals and win them" and then realised there wasn't an option....................!