In talks with Leigh but cant agree terms it seems, looks like were after a prop and a centre so the ASDA rumour mill goes. Korkidas is one with Tyrer the other.

Hartley can go, a total waste of money and is one of the worst injury prone players i have ever come across.

Why on earth would any team want to sign a player with Hartley's injury record?

It's a shame because he showed promise from what little we saw of him.

Shhhhhh dont tell the Leythers.

I suppose he's a bit like Louis Saha with less skill.

Tim Hartley is a ticket tout?

Being a Leigh lad he can walk to training, Leigh are negotiating a pay and play, for it to come off he must get paid up in full by Widnes. Heard a similar deal with Doran.

If he can get over his fitness problems then you have got a decent signing there. But there must be doubts over how much you will get to see him.

On balance I'm far happier with Tyrer in the side.

To be honest though, thats not gonna happen is it. I mean from Hartley's position he'd be getting paid twice for the same games i.e. already had the money from Widnes and then getting paid for whatever games he plays for Leigh. Also from Widnes' point of view, whatever we pay him off goes against the salary cap (I pressume) so getting shut wouldn't really benefit us from that point of view either. If thats the only offer on the table, may as well just keep him and wait + see if his injury clears up.

You can get rid of players and not count on the cap. I'm sure everyone remembers how we got rid of Peachey and then signed Jordan James, Ollie Wilkes and Dennis Moran. As others have said finding another club to take Hartley's contract over is the hard part. Maybe we can do deals like what Leeds Utd did a few years ago. When they were relegated but had players on long term deals and massive wages, they sold players on, but still agreed to pay x amount of the wages. Although Leeds wages went down they were still paying for players they had sold years earlier. Pressumably Hartley is on a one year deal, so if we say to Leigh or whoever, we'll go halves on the wages untill the end of the year, Widnes lighten the load a little and the other club gets a player for half wages - everyone's a winner.

Maurice is king of the wind ups ignore him.

I've seen your handy work on the Leigh forum

Jog on littledick

Up yours mo fo

What's that Danny Dyer?

the reason fax let him go. hardly played many games due to injury.