seriously why does this man play
no will power going forward
very half heartedly, he just looks like he doesnt want to even play
i thought props where supposed to be strong going forward
will gannon just isn't
compare this man to halifaxs front row
please just get some new forwards
and thackaery out !!!!!!!!!

Another glue sniffer !!

Get back to Trust In Widnes

I agree with getting some stronger hard running forwards though.

I usually am a big caller of thackeray
but i thought he had one of his better games yesterday, he got stuck in with the tackles, and offered another dimension in attack when webster had no-were to go
and with the Gannon point, he's not that type of forward, he's a hit and spin forward where he then offloads to supporting players... the problem is... we dont have any!
Looking at the squad early on the players who are not performinng are: Wildbore, Doran and Varkulis and ofcourse Thompson.
This is taking into consideration that the half backs will sort their heads out.

Bit harsh on Wildbore, hes not doing to bad and when he is playing at fullback positions himself well and good at taking the ball back up, expect far more from Varks though

I'd like to see Thackeray and Webster at half back's and maybe Duffy at loose.

I also agree with what your saying about Gannon, we really miss Morrison

yes good point
totally agree and especially Varkulis
he just simply can't tackle
didn't wildbore win 7 awards of Featherstone last year though
so he must be good player
but i agree that he is not performing at the minute

Bit harsh. Gannon has never been a charge the line busting tackle type of player but he has got a good offload when there are player to pass too. He gets through alot of work in defence which i think most people dont see. i bet he is one of the top tacklers most weeks. He has scored a few tries this year so his attack cant be a terrible as you are suggesting. Not every player can run like paliasenna but make up for it by doing other things in the game some of which go unnoticed but most fans. definatley think we need another prop on the bench instead of a winger and a hlf back.

Gannon has carried the front row most of this year for us.

He has the most hit ups in our team.

His defence is very good

His experience is invaluable

Your talking crap

I think he also made the dream team at fullback

Then we play him @ loose foreward

Only at Widnes eh lol

hahaha yes exactly

i understand what you mean
its just he doesn't gain enough yards for me
for a prop he isn't very strong

Gannon needs training with offloads

If we get that sorted and support play then theres a few try`s there .

winning 7 awards at fev last year cant have been that difficult though.

Gannon will never break a tackle, but like has been said that's not what his game's about. He's about getting quick play the balls like he did for duffy's kick to the corner for flynn.

Regards Varkulis....be patient, he started slow at fax but came good, on his day he's quality.

What is it with people bagging players the minute we lose a match. It's ing pathetic. Some of you so called fans really need to get a grip because you're clearly not watching the same game as the rest of us.

Good shout. And just as effective alternative to a 17 stone brick ehouse on the batter, provided he can get down on his elbows as soon as and dominate the tackle.

Never rated Jim Gannon, even when he was with us! Just never seemed fearsome enough and never broke a tackle, can't believe he has been at such good clubs for so long!

thank you




with regards to bUsTiNyAbALLs, people dont just have a go at players when we loose one match
unless you haven't noticed we have actually lost 3 out of our 6 matches so far
so im not just basing this on one match
these players haven't performed for the whole season and need to show abit of pride
maybe some more local players will provide abit more of this

I don't think it's through lack of pride though that we are losing games. We've just lost our coach recently, our squad is unbalanced up front, it's average age is very young and it hasn't played together and settled for many seasons like 'fax etc.. There are too many variables going against our favour to pin point certain players for lack of pride. The last team I saw play without any pride was Frank Endacott's side of 2005, now that squad lacked pride.

Our young pack matched Halifax's for much of that game and if it weren't for stupid mistakes, 1 or 2 decisions going against us and being a little more creative and clinical in attack, especially when we dominated their line for so much of the 2nd half, we could have won that game. As it happens, Halifax just had too much in defence and are the side to beat in this competition.

We are going through a transition and we are moving in the right direction. We've got a much stronger squad than last season and when you take into account all our recent troubles and restructuring we've come a very long way in a short space of time.

jeese you must have been there all day typing that

only joking
yer your spot on about everything to be honest because we could have easily won the game
and we are alot stronger than last season especially in terms of the forwards
some of our forwards last season were woeful eg. sam barlow, danny hill
although i can't understand why we got rid off dayne donoghue and rob draper
they where good players in my opinion

That was the big thing for me, not even a bit worried at the end of the game. We dominated with a small and light pack and had them on the back the foot the whole of the second half. Give it another month and watch us go.

Ive watched the game 3 times now and if you think your forwards were on top of ours then you are truly deluded. If you watch how many yards our pack made compared to yours then i can only assume its something else you basing this on. Terry O`connor just about said the same. The only reason you had so much ball in the second half was through our mistakes. Luckily for us your attack didnt look like it could break a paper bad, i mean did you even make a clean break?

Yep we made a couple.. Paddy Flynn most noticeable who just stepped the wrong way at the very end otherwise that would have been a terrific score.. Doddy made a nice break too and there was a beak at the far end that ended with Grady dropping the ball.

Come the end of the season widnes will have appeared in at least 1 final

Our pack more than held it's own considering how small it was and paddy Flynn ripped you through the middle if I'm not mistaken.


How many finals have you been to in the last couple of years? Experience counts at this level.


Bow down to the Vikings you Yorkshire scumbag

I've got to agree slightly about Gannon...
He is terrific at quick ptb and has also been responsible for some great offloads... but a lot of this depends on the opposition and if they want to stop him then they very often can.

In some games he has been completely ineffectual and I personally go into games wondering how he will be allowed to play. Teams that don't quite handle him normally pay as a result but the smarter teams normally have him sussed.

He is an option and something different but we still need the Fellous or Wilkes factor that we had in recent years.