simple as, been brought up to hate them, and my views will never change. Despite being only 20, and having witnessed the 'derby' for 3-4 years only, I have always considered them 'the enemy', balls to Leigh and Saints or wigan. And I always viewed Cullen as a dirty git on the pitch.
But despite this, I will always love WIdnes a hell of a lot more than I hate Warrington, love out weighs the hate, simple as. Nobody should hate somebody else more so than they love their own team/town. I didn't like the appointment of PC at first but whilst he is at Widnes, I will support the team just like I would a Wiganer, Leyther, scouser, Pakistani etc should they be in charge of Widnes Vikings RLFC.
This post is not a dig at anyone in the slightest as I know some of the lads who aren't in favour of Cullen, but whilst he is at Widnes he deserved our support IMHO. If it doesn't work out then by all means I agree, people have a right to critiscise, but due to the on field antics, not because he is Warringtonian. I bet people didn't boo Rick Thackray or Tony Thornily, they are both wires. Matthew Strong is from Penketh, shall we all turn on him all of a sudden? Thought not!

Like I say no dig intended to anyone as we all detest wires, but lets face it cullen probably realises that. And it isn't as if we have much of a rivalry at the minute anyway. ANyway rant over!

Terribly sad, you should probably speak to somebody about the hatred it's not natural and can lead to all sorts of medical issues.

Oh and as for thinking Cullen was a "dirty git" I'll give you the benefit of the doubt as you were only 6 or 7 at the time.

Sad?It's absolutely embarrassing.

I dislike Wire, but as long as Cullen does the job I couldn't care less

Care to enlighten me?

You stated that "we all detest wires".

I don't.

Fair enough mate. Wouldn't criticsise anybody who doesn't. But I have my reasons. Not that I'll go into that on here. My initial post is pretty positive, I am prepared to support Cullen as he is know widnes, thats my point, think most should follow suit.

I agree.

I think widnes have been shafted that many times I think its personally difficult to feel any animosity for a real RL club for things which largely happened before I was born, so I don't feel that bad about wires. Don't get me wrong, I do enjoy seeing them humiliated week after week but as for Paul Cullen I'll give him the same chance as almost any widnes manager coming in. He will get my full backing and I sincerely hope he will do us a good job.

If Richard Lewis was involved in this club on any level, however, that's another matter. If I said what I really felt about him and what I'd love to happen to him I think some would be shocked so I'll just leave it at that.

wtf?

I think the gist of your post is 100% spot on Moz!!! Can't say I detest Wire.. losing to them always hurt more than any other team and I would say that I disliked them intensely.. the thought of Les Boyd or Lee Penny makes me shake violently even now. But everyone deserves a second chance.. apart from les boyd and Lee Penny..

I don't think it was any racial prejudice behind his post he's just trying to show he'd support a coach where ever he came from.

Well at least this is a bit more reasonable than some of the e I've read lately.

Most of us, particularly the older fans, do love to hate the Wire. As long it is mostly banter, it adds a little spice. That's not the same as hating someone because they come from Warrington.

Cullen is a Viking now and it will be even funnier if we Win a major trophy with him in charge before the Wire do. That would be hilarious!

Reading your original post, if irrational hatred is your main motivator (particularly against a team that's in a different division) I would guess you are beyond being enlightened

You're right. Mozz is no racist and I can vouch for the fact that he is involved in anti-fascist campaigns. He's young and head-strong, but apart from fascists, I doubt he really hates anyone.

I didn't word that first post very well in some parts, I was just highlighting the fact I would support a coach whatever his passport read. As doc will vouch I am certainly no bigot, can't stand that scene in the slightest. And same goes for Warringtonians, I ahve a fair few mates from t'utha side of towers, two of which post on the Wires forum. I have been brought up to dislike Warrington RLFC, not the town itself. Used to love knocking about round Penketh or Bewsey of a friday evening when I was too young to get in any bars/clubs.


As for that mug 'heathen 55', I think you need to take your bile elsewhere.

Oh sorry doc, almost forgot to mention, enjoyed reading your pm.

rubbish, who will we have next sean long?

WOULDNT MIND HIM TO BE HONEST

You've had too many smarties this morning, young rapscallion.

As PC would say, "I am getting rather discouraged by the obessive nature of your recent ramblings against the Stobart Stadium outfit. I am duly obliged, as Head Coach, of Widnes Vikings, a club steeped in it's illustrious history with devout fans, to urge you to refrain from these underhand tactics of my appointment"

In other words, "do one dick wod" You need more than a maggot to come fishing in our pond.

He's our coach and to be honest if you dont have full support for the coach, even before hes played a game theres something up with you. Give the man a chance.