to be truthful you was lucky not to be down to 12 earlier, there was some ridiculous head high tackling going on by Cross

he is fast becoming a target for gaining penalties within the game

its a shame the rfl could not appoint a ref that was not from the wakefield district and a well noted wakefield fan . I fined this very strange by the rfl the second half wakefield got nine penalty s on the bounce which change the game .

The ref doesnt just award penalties for fun. Wakefields discipline was very good thats why we got no penalties, on the other hand ours was not so good. Mr Cross should also know better than to argue with the ref.

I thought the TV ref was more of a wakefield fan than the one on the pitch

It's funny isn't it... there were also plenty of times when a Wakefield player should have got a talking to, but didn't.

I mean, it's fine.. you've just got to accept that a referee from Wakefield, who listens to Wakefield players for decisions is not going to be too pro the opposition. I thought Lauititi's pat on the referee's back was cute too. Nice to say thanks and good manners to.

thought Thaler did well to ignore the countless obstruction from Widnes in the first half. Not that it made a difference like

Well if you're going to do it for one side... would be a bit unfair to have picked up Wakefield for all of theirs.

I enjoyed the game. It's a good ground and Widnes did well to get all the support back after a few years in the doldrums. Certainly a better start than I bet Salford get in there rebirth tonight.

It's just a shame about the pitch, because it made for a cracking game but the grazes and cuts may cause you problems as you go through the season.

Thought we were the better side overall but it was still anyone's game with ten minutes or so to go, so the score doesn't reflect the tension.

And I went to Paul's Widnes Fish Bar on the way back to the car. Very nice.

By the way, on the subject of the fish bar, what on earth is a "wet" and what the heck is a "mixture"?

Great game great atmosphrere, worth the 140 mile round trip, went in the car and got home for 11.00. Both teams supported well and good noise came from both sets of fans, nisce stadium but I stood for the length of the game, can't see the point of seats in the end stands


Pitch looks dodgy non the skin but suited our game better than widnes, poor discapline defo had its part to play in Widnes's down fall but I think on stamina and creativity we probs would have won anyway. Cross di 3 high tackles in a row then argued with the ref so can't see how there is any room for complaint there





A wte is a wet fish I think and a Mixture is cips & peas (also known as a split in st helens) I think,
BTW just don't ask for a tea cake with your chips or you'll get looked at funny

Really enjoyed the game yesterday (obviously)

However, I personally think Widnes will improve as the season goes on, getting the likes of Watts, Phelps, Kite and Briscoe back in the frame will lift you.
Danny Craven should keep his spot next week, played outstanding for you guys last night and definitely one to watch.

Good Luck for rest of season (except from when you visit Belle Vue

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Lets also remember 2 of your 3 try's came from mistakes / luck in mathers not booting ball out and the charge down other than that, there wasn't much created.
I thought Widnes had a tall imposing pack but their tactics were a bit old school.. leading with elbows, head high tackles. I think Widnes like ourselves will be much better later in the season when they have gelled and have their better players in.

Good Luck for rest of the season..

A 'wet' is pea juice thrown over your your chips. It is also known as 'pea wet'. A mixture is chips and mushy peas. I think it's only Widnes that uses these terms. I have never seen it anywhere else.

I believe they call chips and mushy peas an 'Irishman' in Crewe. So, I guess, everywhere has their own particular names for chippy food.

All tries come from mistakes or luck... Every try relies on someone not doing their job by missing a tackle or not being in the right place positionally. For example, one of our players rushed out the line for Mathers' try leaving a gaping hole.
As for our tactics being a bit old school, I've watched the game back and our 'tactics' are nothing out of the ordinary that you don't see in any other SL game. I must have missed all these other super league games where there isn't a single penalty for a high tackle. Let alone two or three.
I could throw your way that on at least six occasions the Wakefield player stepped forward off his mark and should have been penalised for it but didn't.

They were getting away with a lot of holding down, and slowing the play-the-ball, all night too. I don't suppose they would have noticed that though

Thaler is a Cas fan, which in our book makes him the anti Christ!!!
One win out of three games he reffed last year, zero from five the year before.
You lost fairly and squarely, talking clap trap won't change that.

I thought my post was fair, I certainly didn't need to add another fir the sake of balance.
All teams have injuries it's about having a squad that copes as best as it can in those circumstances, and I'm sure at some point in the season you will beat a team suffering similarly, it's the nature of the game.
I've just watched the game back on sky plus and for you to moan about conceding two tries while down to 12 men is laughable.
How it took 71 minutes for a widnes player, (take your pick from Moore, pickersgill and cross for high shots, Moore and ah van for profesional fouls) to receive any kind of reprimand, and then for it only to be descent is a joke and showed the ref up, and perversely only highlighted what many wakey fans expected, a one sided refereeing performance.
As I said you lost in the second half because you tired badly and a fitter better side took full advantage, for you to think otherwise doesn't reflect well on you.
As for the wakey fans shouting for widnes players to be sent off, watch the game back and ask yourself I'd the boot was on the foot and the red was continually doing nish, wouldn't you be tempted to acclaim the same? I'm sure the answer would be in the affirmative.

You sure about that, it's not what I hear but hell you may know more than me on this one.

I actually think we do OK with Ben in charge,

As Testy said that's because we were disciplined and you were not. Cross in particular was a liability and pretty much threw the game and that was not Ben Thalers fault. I agree that perhaps another ref would have been more sensible if for no other reason than to stop this kind of bickering.

That said the result would still be 9 penalties to nil, however Ganson for one would have brandished the yellow sooner than Thaler especially as it was a telly game.

There is no denying your indiscipline helped us win the game but the try's that won it still took some scoring.

On a positive, Frank Winterstien looks to be reaching his potential which is good to see, always liked him when he was with us.

I think fitness let Widnes down and that is why gave silly penalties away.Bad kicking game and lack of creativity at halfback.Clarke is not a scrumhalf.

This suggests that Widnes need to sort their discipline out.

Fitness and stamina showed in the last quarter and thats why the bad tackles came in from Widnes.Watch anygame like that and its what happens when the opposition start to feel the heat and limbs start to hurt.

Look Doctor, what with you being new to this Super League lark is you have to realise that the game is not run for the benefit of the likes of Widnes and Wakefield. We don't count. It's only run for the benefit of Leeds, Saints, Wigan and Wire (who replaced Bradford in the RFL's wet dreams).

Of course you did.



You also think your team are angels. Bless you.

Why can't people see that everything you've ever said in an argument has always been correct?







Indeed they do and indeed it is. I was simply making the point that at full strength we as a team will have much more ability, experience and power in the side. Friday night will not necessarily fairly reflect how we do the rest of the season. Hopefully these players will be back for the Salford game which might give us more of an indication.

Wakey fan in 'remaining biased despite watching the game on TV' shock.

You are absolutely right on this point. Why it took SO LONG... for Southern, Lauititi and the rest of the lads to have such an influence on a Wakefield referee is beyond me. But the pat on the back from Lauititi showed that the message had got through in the end.









Whose got a problem with the fans doing it?? No problems there... it comes with the territory. The disgusting thing is that your players have started doing it. It's abhorrent in football and RL has always been able to hold it's head high as having more principles in this area. Your boys obviously don't share those principles. Fair enough. We know what to expect now.

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SMOKEY TA ON OUR HANDS...

Just get over not been able to win on your first outing whilst we were the sacrificial lambs.

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SMOKEY TA ON OUR HANDS...

Just get over not been able to win on your first outing whilst we were the sacrificial lambs.

Oh dear - someone is clearly rattled.

Chin up - things can only get better.