the best widnes performance for years, roll on the next 2 seasons............

Hi everybody, first time post. I have followed Widnes since the year dot and was delighted when we got into superleague of course. Not expecting miracles first year back but not really expecting the early part of the season to be so bad.
However signs of improvement on the horizon.
Its a relief to be off the bottom of the table.
Spare a thought for the Broncos, they have been in SL for a long time and they are below us now. Maybe we are not as bad as we and everyone else think we are. Good result against Saints even tho it went against us. Referees are not perfect, neither are players so as its been pointed out, these things generally even out over a season.
Keep up the good work .

Ha you clown!

So a couple of unsavoury incidents that happened 12-13 years ago are putting you supporting your home town. Just sound another glory hunting quilt. Genuine saints fans must laugh at the likes of you.

Up the chemics

Well said.Another towel thrower unfurling the white flag and using a spurious excuse to go glory hunting at a bigger club.There's a few of them there now,an exclusive little club of sad turncoats.Notice how they don't go off and support Leigh or Swinton.

Devastated by the result and the manner it was won yesterday but it's games like this that we've waited for in SL.

Up the Chemics.

The no goal call was correct. I did a freeze frame on Sky this afternoon. As a Wigan fan I was also hoping that it was an incorrect call, but sadly it wasn't. Ah Van should have gone closer to the posts for his interception try.

Ah Van had a gash to his head and was drained, then he went off after the try.I think he did well to make the try considering, and i said after the game to him, that he should have gone closer to the posts.I was joking with him, and to be honest we missed too many kicks, so we need a decent kicker in the side.The pleasing thing for me was the competitiveness in the side.

Sky may have shown the wrong conversion attempt RG.I believe Ah Van was in Disneyland with a knock to the head prior to his interception and just wanted to get to the tryline.

Agree mate and true Widnes fans support through thick and thin.Wonder what he will be like when Saints drop off the pace?

I'm pretty sure the conversion Sky have shown today is not the contentious 1 from the same side of the pitch but the 1 handbury questioned was much lower than the 1they showed

The kick Sky showed after the highlights looked like the right one because he seemed to slip after he kicked it.

Here HERE well said

Like they

have we won 25-24 really

The clip Sky showed was from the Dean try, and it was just wide.
Was that not the contentious one?

the one I saw on sky was from the ahvan length of the field try.

The contentious one was where Hanbury slipped and it was from Dean's score IIRC. The only video of the conversion attempt is from the North stand and doesn't zoom very well so I'd be surprised that you can be so sure.

A saints fan I know in work was sat in block C in the Saints end (West Stand) right behind the sticks and even he admitted that the ball was just inside the right stick (left as he was looking at it.) Also an interesting opinion from someone stood directly below the kick.

Paul Wellens ‏@pwello80 8 Jul
“@danprendy: @pwello80 surely you agree that goal conversion went over Paul?” YES... I thought it did

I'll leave it at that.

Yeah, I agree mate and I don't expect one email was ever actually fired off. Just complete frustration from us Widnes speccies. Even today I feel absolutely gutted still if I'm honest. You're in the fortunate position that you're an established Super League side, with a relatively recent history of successes.
We are in the position of having to try and justify our place in the league and although good performances do us a favour it's the points we've won at the end of the season that would provide us with a better argument.

Losing because of a refereeing error is never easy, but at the end of the day big boys dont cry, if we want respect from other clubs and their supporters lets just take it on the chin and get on with it. No good being seen as whingers.

The ghost goal was the one where Hanbury slipped. I've watched it numerous times but it's impossible to tell from the official footage in the North Stand. Betts said the club video showed it to go over though, I assume that was filmed in the South.

Mate every set of fans whinge i have been on these forums long enough.Big boys Saints,Wigan,Warrington, etc moan just like any other club to be honest.It is part of the forums and we have lost, and time to move on from the experience.We are improving and that is more important to me, than this lost.

Ive just watched The Super League show,and I freeze framed the disputed goal.
I can say most definately that it was a good conversion.
I froze it ,and its quite clear that the post is behind the ball !!!!
Its not as if the ball was high above the sticks---it was about six feet below the top of the sticks.
It looks like the touch judge on the left had made his mind up early that it was a miss,and the other judge instinctively wave his flag as well..

No-one is particularly moaning still but it is a debating point. It's more annoying as refs decisions can be based on interpretation this should be clear cut! The club haven't moaned about it at all either.

Not to mention the fact that in sport it's usually the big boys that cry most

Not to mention the fact that in sport it's usually the big boys that cry most

Agreed mate usually the highly paid premiership footballers.

I dont think Ive ever known a decision to be reversed because of fan pressure, I might be wrong tho.

Come on guys, of course I wasn't serious about lobbying the RFL. I did however send a 'slightly' abusive e mail highlighting my disgust, not that it will make a bit of difference but it did make me feel better

and on the subject of moaning, I've never seen as much moaning or arm flapping in the refs face as I did from wellens and hohaia on Sunday, if ganson was in charge one of them would have walked.
Never mind, us Vikings will just enjoy the view from up here on the moral high ground.
Its just above the sticks, perfect for judging goal kicks

That is the spirit mate.We are not all that bad at Widnes and i like to see my team win though.

But on the whole i am satisfied if lose with a good performance and effort.