for gregory peck !

no player deserves verbal abuse no matter how they play!!

at the end of the day would you like someone giving you abuse at work?
no so don't do it, people who do should be picked out and banned from the stadium and the idiot that shouted abuse at thackeray should be aswell

i can't even believe you would condone it, or even take part.
the fans are the people who support there club no matter what and if you can't do that then yes you are not a true fan !

Yes they are. In fact I'd go as far as to say they were sub human. The abuse at Bridgend was disgusting. Those fans lost complete self dignity and self control that day, just as the moronic bell ends at Halifax did the other night. These people do not deserve to wear the black and white and in fact should not even be allowed to procreate.

i agree with you completly !

Chemical castration?


Or maybe the two brick method?

Methinks their personalities might take care of this!

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I don't understand the small time mentality of some rugby league fans this is why people prefer football, because it's a place were people can have their release without feeling as though they will be castigated for it afterwards, what happens in a rugby stadium should stay in a rugby stadium simple as, it's not a true reflection of society, you yourself have admitted to referring to certain players as 'stupid c***' this would be deemed unacceptable in polite society, but is said in the controlled environment of a sports stadium, so is not particularly wrong at the end of the day if your going to jump on yer high horse and say 'you, you shouldn't do that your banned' what can i say, support will dwindle considerably. I saw what went on at halifax and wouldn't even use the word abuse it was more a heated exchange of words and in my opinion there was nothing wrong about it, but hey at the end of the day who is to say who right and who is wrong i certainly won't take on that mantle.

Boring close the thread i agree with everything Pepe has said.


Peck you failed.

Agree with that!

Well if you want to go to watch sport to shout obscenities directly at another human being, who will/may have their families present, as well as having their own feelings, then I would suggest you do exactly that; go and watch chavball. You’re sure to find like-minded morons there.


I haven’t swore in a stadium for a long time. I still take my 10-year-old son, whom I never swear in front of. However, the occasional curse if not done too loudly, is understandable. Singling out individual players for abuse and humiliation isn’t. There is a massive difference.


It’s a reflection on the pathetic individuals who do this, but also reflects the way our fans can be viewed by people from outside the club. This is not about me getting on my high horse, I think you’ll find that you are in a very small minority and pretty much on your own on this board with your views.


No it won’t. In fact it is more likely to increase if we rid our club of the few ed up angry morons that call themselves supporters.


The trouble at Halifax is, sadly, not an isolated incident. Common sense tells any reasonable adult what is acceptable. The club will do the rest. They’ve already got rid of one scumbag, so they seem to mean business. Therefore I’d expect more scum to be booted out before long, so they can sit at home and shout at their TV’s with the other sad morons.

Football has a lot more glory hunting types, with little love or understanding of the game, who go to football matches to froth at the mouth and fight with opposing fans in the street. They could never hold an RL Magic type weekend, with thousands fans mingling together. They struggle to keep order with just two teams playing.

Prem Football fans and RL fans are worlds apart.

Nothing small time about being respectful to one another. The morons who follow Wendyball who think getting 'a release' is all about abusing each other, fighting, throwing coins at referees and general c**tishness is about as small time as it gets... Small time, small minds. Rugby League prides itself on respect and this element of scum that infests our set of fans would perhaps feel more at home with the moronic Wendyball thugs.



What utter rot. It's a sad reflection of society that people can't go and enjoy a rugby league match without some drunken cretin spoiling it by being abusive and threatening towards anyone who crosses them. What happens in a rugby league stadium is that people should feel safe and not intimidated and enjoy the sport.



I can't even be d to read the rest of the guff you're spouting. You should try changing your name to Gregory Peckerhead.. It would seem more appropriate.

Yes, and in Halton they're generally sad sods pretending to have some connection with teams who play in cities at either end of the East Lancs Road.

"My grandad's cousin is from Middleton and our family has watched Man U since 1753, so I'm a Manc our kid. Buzzin'! Sorted!!"

or

"My uncle once had a pint in The Big House la! Yer doin' me 'ead in lad!"

Used to be the great working class escape, footie. But like anything any good the money men got their hands on it and now season tickets, tv packages are aimed at middle class bandwagoners, who wont be around forever.

I still say it's a more honest sport than the one we're in. It's money obsessed, there are no clubs, they're all businesses, but there is no pretence about that. There is nothing stopping anyone from becoming one of the elite if they've got the right plan and team. But what do we get? Stuck here no matter what we do and greedy idiot s talking about making some of the biggest most ilustrious names in the game feeder clubs.

Not too different to the rest of the country then. That’s part of their problem. Whilst the majority of football fans are generally knowledgeable and passionate, many are now attracted to it in order to fit in; a bit like chavs with their Burberry. It’s a high fashion, petty crime sport. The constant hype about the game these days has reduced that sport into something more like Channel 4’s big brother house; a giant goldfish bowl were issues are polarised, for the hard of thinking, Mix that with the passion generated by watching team sports and you’re asking for trouble. It’s not just in this country either. It’s a problem throughout the football world.

I think football’s problem started as far back as the 60’s. Violence and anger is always lurking under the surface of top football games for 5 or 6 decades now, and the authorities have to turn match days, in some areas where prem football is played, into something that resembles an Orwellian police state, with CCTV in and outside the ground, large amounts of stewarding and a huge police presence, with riot control vehicles and horses. Fans have to be separated in order to stop the inevitable violence between fellow human beings who don’t just dislike each other but actually hate one another. They need the smallest issue, which will be played up and polarised by the media, in order to froth at the mouth with hatred of fellow supporters of the game they profess to love.

Yes, they are still a minority, but they are a large minority. They form their own gangs and organise violence between each other. They think this is a perfectly reasonable activity, just like some Widnes RL fans think singling out players and coaches for abuse and humiliation is acceptable. This attitude is creeping into RL now, brought in by fans brought up with the football traditions, who think it is the way to behave at all sporting events. They lack pride in themselves and thus pride in anything else, including the club which represents their area.

Correct, Chris. The decent Working class fans are sandwiched between the passionless prawn butty munchers and the thick knuckle scrapping chavs.

Football is run more honestly, only because it is a sport very much in the spotlight and followed by millions. RL....... well......isn't, so the RFL can pretty much do what they want, providing they can carry a top few clubs with their own vested interest at heart.

Think there's a bit of an antiquated view of football fans on here. The vast majority of the games pass off peacefully and, although there is granted a large police presence for a lot of games, there is very little policing for twice as many games. Going to a game at Fulham, in RL terms, would be like going to a Batley game - welcoming club, knowledgable home supporters and virtually free reign to roam about the ground. Going to Chelsea on the final day of last season when they were going for the title had the potential for a bit of mither but the fans mixed freely near Fulham Broadway and drank in the same pubs with hardly any police knocking about.

Of course, I'm speaking only from my experience of watching Bolton, and maybe it's different for those who watch Utd, Liverpool etc, but I think the problem that RL clubs face from football fans are the ones who sit in the pub watching Sky, rather than the ones who actually make the effort to support their football team.

Aye I suppose you missed two riot vans at the stobart last season for our CC game with Hull FC? And a handful of Hull fans being searched before entering the ground.

There will have to be a certain level of policing at all large sporting events. I can't understand why they would need to search Hull FC fans though, unless they'd been tipped off about something. To stop them killing each other, football fans require complete segregation at many games. I saw Hull FC and Widnes fans happily mingling before and after that game. Perhaps you missed that?

Most of the problems at Widnes have been caused by a handful of goons at the back, often wearing football shirts. I even heard them singing Everton songs at one Widnes game.

Perhaps that's why the police feel the need to search RL fans these days?

The point is many top Premiership games have to be controlled with heavy police presence, CCTV etc. This is what keeps the peace. Certain games may require much lower levels of surveillance, as you suggest.

It wasn't so long ago that two Leeds fans were murdered, Arsenal fans stabbed, Man U and Liverpool fans attacked in Italy. There had to be riot police deployed outside Old Trafford a couple of years ago, because of retaliatory threats against Milan supporters. It didn't stop violence breaking out.

The fans that watch Prem football in their locals are generally the ones who, when they do come to an RL game, behave like idiots. This is why we're better off not trying to appeal to them and find new support from elsewhere.

MOZ doesn't miss anything

You know him then?


That would explain things.

no, no just ardent fan of this individuals comments, seems to be clued up, how do you know it isn't a female?

ha I love you too honey